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General => TV & Film => Topic started by: Late on July 30, 2012, 02:59:28 PM
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Demonoid's been down for nearly a week now, following a DDOS attack, and it's starting to get annoying/worrying. I believe a handful of other sites went at the same time.
If it's not back in a few days I'm going to have to start looking elsewhere for downloads. I am, of course, only downloading legal stuff.
Anyone got any good sites?
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Demonoids been down for months before after DDOS attacks... so you could be in for quite a long wait....
Isohunt & Piratebay have plenty of legal stuff on their site ;D
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Yup, Isohunt and Pirate Bay are good, and there's a new contender called torrentz.eu that I've found. It basically gives links to the different torrent sites that share a torrent. And if your ISP has blocked the Pirate Bay you can reach a mirror site going to www.fucktimkuik.org lol ;D
Tbh you don't really need any of these to find public torrents, although Google have removed a few from searches due to the DMCA.
Demonoid is excellent though, plenty of stuff on there that you can't find anywhere else so hopefully it's going to be back in action sooner rather than later.
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Depends if you want public or private trackers.
A lot of the private trackers now operate on an invite only system, so unless you happen to know somebody with an account and a few invites, then you aren't going to get in.
A lot of the private trackers have very strict upload ratios as well, unless you are paying for something like VIP membership.
On another note. This is interesting:
http://torrentfreak.com/riaa-online-music-piracy-pales-in-comparison-to-offline-swapping-120726/
Backs up what I have said about one of the things that will happen if they stop downloading. They will not prevent the loss of sales, but will add to problems for organisations such as trading standards and law enforcement agencies, with much of the physically pirated material actually being sold to fund other crimes.
By the way, Torrentfreak is an excellent source of information and looks at legal issues as well as exposing a lot of the hypocrisy of the media industry.
For instance, the fact that the industry is going to keep all of the money from fines levied against defendants in the Piratebay cases, while the artists, who they repeatedly claim to be protecting by their actions to stop downloading, won't see a penny.
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Yup, Slyck.com is also good for torrent and piracy news ;D
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On another note. This is interesting:
http://torrentfreak.com/riaa-online-music-piracy-pales-in-comparison-to-offline-swapping-120726/
The chart is bollocks and so misleading.... I mean, where do the source files come from in relation to hard drive trading and burning/ripping .. well it either comes from a physical sale or it comes from illegal downloads..... if for instance the files used in hard drive trading and burning/ripping came from an illegal source.. then cutting off the source would cut out the other stuff... my mate has been round my house a few times with his portable hard drive and just dumped all his movies on my computer... he had illegally downloaded though.. where he will watch screeners and telesyncs, I wont, so I delete most of them anyway... but it just goes to show that the chart doesnt prove or mean anything other than the fact that 65% of all acquired music is unpaid for.
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On another note. This is interesting:
http://torrentfreak.com/riaa-online-music-piracy-pales-in-comparison-to-offline-swapping-120726/
I mean, where do the source files come from in relation to hard drive trading and burning/ripping .. well it either comes from a physical sale or it comes from illegal downloads.....
Your point is? I'll tell you what your point is, totally irrelevant. You might think the chart is bollocks but this information is produced by the RIAA, the ones claiming downloaders are the anti-christ.
One physical sale or one leagally downloaded copy is all it takes. A copy of that ripped to a hard disk, copied as a physical CD on an individual basis or used as a master for making large numbers of pirate copies for wider distribution.
As I have said, stopping downloading will just lead to an increase in the trading of physical copies. With sites such as E-bay almost impossible to police for pirate copies, and with pirates more likely to produce even more accurate looking copies of things such as CD cases, the consumer will end up getting ripped off more and the tax payer will be picking up the tab as the responisbility for stopping this will fall to the law enforcement agencies as these will be criminal rather than civil cases. Not to mention the funding of other forms of crime.
So the industry gets the law enforcement agencies to do their dirty work at the expense of the tax payer, while the artists get nothing extra out of it.
Instead of embracing the technology, reforming antiquated and industry biased copyright laws and introducing measures which would still see downloaders provide large sums of money into the industry, they seemingly bury their heads in the sand.
The same is true of the ridiculous release schedules for films in cinemas and on DVD across the globe. The industry appears to be its own worst enemy but there is method in their madness and that method is making a lot of people at the top of these companies rich and powerful, while it is the artists not being paid well and that is as a result of the industry, not the downloaders.
I have a collection of over 3000 physical CDs, probably over 500 DVDs (films/music) and something like 200 TV series dvd box sets. So I'm not just defending downloaders from the point of being a downloader.
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I use a site called thepirateschest.net. Just have to sign up, no invites needed. Used to use torrentz but not very often since VM blocked access to thepiratebay. I don't trust a lot of the other sites there as they usually have no comments on the torrents.
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http://www.torrent-invites.com/forum.php
A potentially useful site. List of open trackers too.
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The Ukrainian government has today raided Demonoid's servers, confiscating hardware and copying all tracker data.
Appears to be a gift to the US - coinciding with the Ukrainian Deputy Prime Minister's first trip to the United States - to discuss copyright infringement.
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Torrent sites are like the Hydra. Cut off one head ...
They seriously need to rethink their strategy such as a levy on downloads. It would be far more successful. People who claim that it's unfair on those who don't download, well it's no different to many other forms of taxation that are unfair. It could easily be tailored to torrent traffic and any other new protocols that rear their heads if they continue to target torrents, because it is invevitable something will replace torrents the way things are going. Using QoS they could prioritise traffic and set the levies. Obviously there are ways around that but if the levies were set correctly, people wouldn't bother.
They'd make more money for the media industry doing this than they ever will by stopping downloads, with the exception of the boost in shares seen every time new legislation comes out, which only favours the big companies.
When they shut down allofmp3 in Russia, a dozen or so clones reared their heads.
It was a shame because the software allofmp3 used was really good, letting you choose to dowload music in different formats and different bitrates, with higher prices for higher quality. It was considered legal under Russian copyright law, but was shut down to prevent Russia being kicked out of the various trading organisations.
They aren't so quick to threaten Russia with that anymore as thye hold a lot of economic paoer as one of the major oil and mineral producers now.
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Not really into music, but that was a great site.
Can't remember how much credit I had on there when it disappeared - about five quid I think. But I think the site had been gone a year before I realised it'd been taken down! Mainly used it to get albums for friends & family.
Thanks for the recommendations, folks. Will check them out some time soon.
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Aaaaaaargh!!! My first casualty of Demonoid dying - the Movies With A Twist Collections aren't all being seeded any more >:( Bollocks!!! >:(
Might have to download them separately I guess, a great collection of films although some of them are repeated in other parts.
I hate to think how much rare music I'm missing out on too :'(
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This is an interesting story.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/4517317/Bruce-Willis-to-fight-Apple-over-music-rights-after-his-death.html
Seems like those people who download music "illegally" own it as much as those who purchase it from Apple.
I have never liked Apple as an organsiation. They are scum, though they try and disguise it. They have been ripping people off for years. They were supposedly brought to taks over their use of DRM which prevented people from playing music bought from Apple on anything but Apple devices.
I'm glad I purchase my music elsewhere and stll prefer the physical item for the most part.
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... and I rest my case.
... instead of embracing the technology and doing something sensible, the authorities make it worse for themselves.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19982440
This model will now be taken up by more and once people cotton on to things such as seedboxes and proxy servers ...
well, the Pirates will always be one step ahead.
Not only that but it will allow a lot more than pirated music/films/software to be shared invisibly on the net. A criminals paradise ...
... and it will get worse.
(yeah been away for a bit, but as of today (well tomorrow when I tell them to stick it) I'm unemployed. Had a bit of a nightmare few weeks.
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Sorry to hear about your work situation mate, there's nothing worse than being unemployed imo. Hope you get something sorted soon.
Great news for fans of the Pirate Bay, it's only second to Suprnova as being the best torrent site of all-time. ;D
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Cheers Harv, got a couple of things to apply for, but I'll probably take it easy until after Christmas now. I'm quite glad to be out of the place in some ways (well in lots of ways lol).
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Yeah just heard Halo 4 was leaked onto Piratebay the other day... 3 weeks before its launch... what should Microsoft do exactly... embrace the leaks and let the thieves play it to their hearts content... LOL.. theres very little that can be done to prevent leaks or piracy beginning in the first place... it doesnt mean the authorities should embrace that.. its still a crime... ;)
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By embrace it I meant that, instead of trying to combat it in the way they have been, get smart when doing so, they could actually make more than they would have done through sales as many of the people downloading wouldn't have bought it anyway.
As for stealing stuff that is all electronic data, very difficult to do. As apple are finding out with the company that is buying people's legally downloaded music and selling it second hand. It is already being used succesfully by a company in Europe selling second hand games that way.
Apple have tried arguing that people can't sell their digital music because. A judge ruled that they can because, if they bought a CD it would still have a resale value. Whereas you can spend thousands of pounds on music online and as soon as it hits your hard disk, it becomes worthless.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19842851
The company doing the buying and selling have come up with technology that safeguards the copyright (though there will always be ways around such things).
The problem with the media companies is greed, greed, greed and more greed.
Rather than solving the problem, their attempts at legislation will make it worse and facilitate the technology being used for more crime as it becomes more widely used and knowledge of it grows.
Like it or not, they will never stop it, so they need to embrace it and find ways to make it work for them.
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Woo hoo!!!
The Demonoid tracker is up again, located in Hong Kong. Could have the site up and running in a few weeks hopefully. Nice 8)
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Result. Not all that happy with any of the alternatives.
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So a European Commision study has basically backed up the studies done by Ivy League universities in America that donwloading doesn't really affect sales.
The European Commision stated that pirates have a negligible effect on the music industry.
http://techcrunch.com/2013/03/21/study-pirates-rejoice-illegal-downloading-doesnt-impact-digital-music-sales/ (http://techcrunch.com/2013/03/21/study-pirates-rejoice-illegal-downloading-doesnt-impact-digital-music-sales/)
http://www.scribd.com/doc/131005609/JRC79605 (http://www.scribd.com/doc/131005609/JRC79605)
As I have stated all along, there is a model the government could use, rather than getting ISPs to block sites (which doesn't work because there are ways around them), which would actually make the industry money from illegal downloads - which is money they wouldn;t be making even if the illegal downloads weren't taking place. So they'd be quids in.
Unfortunately they want to persist with their antiquated business model because the industry are the ones who are ripping us off.
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Sorry to hear about your work situation mate, there's nothing worse than being unemployed imo. Hope you get something sorted soon.
Great news for fans of the Pirate Bay, it's only second to Suprnova as being the best torrent site of all-time. ;D
Missed this gem of a post. Irony eh.
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See Virgin (and probably other ISPs) have blocked Kickass Torrents and a couple of others at the behest of the UK courts.
Takes about 5 minutes to circumvent the blocks, depending on which browser you use. With Chrome you just add one of the many free proxy servers as an addon, go to a site which gives you IP addresses to use in the proxy, turn on proxy - done (I have not looked for any proxies for Firefox, but you can probably get them).
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This made me chuckle quite a bit.
http://www.techradar.com/us/news/internet/movie-studios-sending-google-take-down-notices-of-their-take-down-notices-1142649 (http://www.techradar.com/us/news/internet/movie-studios-sending-google-take-down-notices-of-their-take-down-notices-1142649)
An interesting side story from that one is the fact that HBO's co-president was more bothered that downloaders weren't getting the best verion of Game of Thrones but doesn't see downloading as a threat, more of a compliment, even though Series 2 of Game of Thrones was the most downloaded TV show in 2012.
However, as he stated, it didn't affect DVD sales.
HBO's main concern with piracy appears to be people selling pirated copies, rather than people downloading it.
http://www.techradar.com/us/news/internet/game-of-thrones-tops-piracy-chart-as-hbo-says-it-s-a-compliment--1141895 (http://www.techradar.com/us/news/internet/game-of-thrones-tops-piracy-chart-as-hbo-says-it-s-a-compliment--1141895)
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Anyone got any idea where thepiratebay is hiding these days?
It seems they switched from Sweden to Greenland a few days back - but the new domain .gl looks to have been shut down already, and the old one at .se is just a holding page...
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You can find a list of proxies on The Proxy Bay (http://proxybay.info/), also this one (http://www.fucktimkuik.org/) is quite amusing lol ;D ;D ;D
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Thanks Harv
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Looks like the ISPs have been leaned on again and they've started to block some proxies and other popular public trackers like KickAss Torrents. Have found this site (http://come.in/?session_new=2) whilst looking for a KickAss Torrents proxy and it has links to a few of the most popular public torrent sites. 8)
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Thanks Harv. Noticed a few proxies were banned for me today (on Virgin) so saved all the proxybay sites on my computer just in case. Credit to those who are banning these sites - I don't agree with what they're doing, but they're getting their shit together lately. They'll never be able to block torrent sites to everyone, but they're making it more difficult for the layman...
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Looks like the ISPs have been leaned on again and they've started to block some proxies and other popular public trackers like KickAss Torrents. Have found this site (http://come.in/?session_new=2) whilst looking for a KickAss Torrents proxy and it has links to a few of the most popular public torrent sites. 8)
Nice one Harv
When are they going to learn that they'll never win.
As for Proxies, they'll never stop all of thoise either.
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Yup, I've seen one of the TPB proxies called TheHydraBay lol. Cut one off and a few more always spring up to replace it.
One really annoying thing is that our wonderful Tory government has decided to get the police involved now. What a fucking waste of taxpayers' money that is. Forget about paedophiles, child killers, murderers, drug addicts thieving to get a fix, muggers etc. Go for owners of torrent sites that live in the UK. Great idea ::) >:( ::)
I'm particularly pissed off with that because I've been a victim of crime a few times and the police have done bugger all.
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Here's the story (http://torrentfreak.com/uk-police-torrent-site-threats-explained-130614/). Bloody ridiculous.
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Yup, I've seen one of the TPB proxies called TheHydraBay lol. Cut one off and a few more always spring up to replace it.
One really annoying thing is that our wonderful Tory government has decided to get the police involved now. What a fucking waste of taxpayers' money that is. Forget about paedophiles, child killers, murderers, drug addicts thieving to get a fix, muggers etc. Go for owners of torrent sites that live in the UK. Great idea ::) >:( ::)
I'm particularly pissed off with that because I've been a victim of crime a few times and the police have done bugger all.
I saids all along that this was the real reason for the snooping laws, and nothing to do with terrorism.
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Great, spend £2.5m on this sort of bollocks (http://torrentfreak.com/uk-government-announces-new-intellectual-property-crime-unit-130628/), and don't bother with real crime. Unbelievable. ::) ::) ::)
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The Government are there to serve the needs of the corporations and to make themselves and their buddies rich. They are not there for the likes of us. The police are rapidly becoming the strong arm of the inland revenue and corporate scum.
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Awesome (http://torrentfreak.com/pirates-form-church-to-battle-copyright-law-that-insults-their-beliefs-130805/) ;D ;D ;D
And I used the holy symbols of CTRL+C and CTRL+V to provide that link. Consider me a convert :P ;D ;D ;D
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lolz.
The conspiracist in me doesn't fancy putting Kopimi as my religion on the next census, mind... ;)
Fair play to the Ruskies and the other governments - they're putting up a good fight. I've noticed a fair few piratebay proxy sites down lately. Of course there's still loads more.
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Yup, I think it's great lol. Isn't there something in the European Court of Human Rights that mentions freedom of religious expression or something..? Would mean that no copyright claims would be lawful lololol ;D ;D ;D
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Just seen Isohunt has been closed down and ordered to pay $110 million :o
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Whoops, that's not good lol :o ;D
Haven't visited there for a bit though, I tend to download stuff from TPB when I use a public tracker these days. When THAT site goes down it'll be a tragedy. :o
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Well that didn't last long lol (http://isohunt.to/) ;D ;D ;D 8)
And what a fucking waste of taxpayer's money (http://torrentfreak.com/uk-government-funds-anti-piracy-outfit-with-taxpayer-money-131031/). Fucking disgraceful. I'm sure the NHS would welcome £250,000 worth of cash. Unbelievable. >:(
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Not the biggest waste carried out by the government... Not by a long shot.
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I didn't infer that it was the biggest waste of taxpayer's money by the government, just that it's disgraceful. ;)
Same goes for all of the time and money wasted by the media companies taking ISPs to court to block access to various torrent sites, particularly when it's so easy to circumvent.
I'd rather this money be spent on health, education, emergency services etc.
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Not forgetting welfare. How else would you pay for your Nintendo consoles and games?
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I save up for them like everyone else. Took me well over a year to pay for my Wii U, if I was able to work it would take me a couple of months. I'd much rather be working tbh.
And as I've already mentioned I have no problems with the government cutting back on benefits, making an effort to stop fraudulent claims for ESA being successful due to changes to both the criteria for claiming ESA and more harsh medicals and the government doping something useful to actually help people back to work after long term unemployment. I'm very pleased to say that since the government started to clamp down on fraudulent ESA claims that Ive personally seen a great deal less people (and the majority were Eastern European too) walking around fine with crutches they obviously don't need.
We've already gone into depth regarding benefit claims in another thread, the one about touch typing if I remember correctly, better if we keep these off-topic rants and personal attacks on my good self to the one thread please and keep this one on-topic. This is about downloading/download sites/piracy/court action, not about my being too unwell to work. ;)
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Oh, the irony lololol (http://torrentfreak.com/riaa-and-bpi-use-pirated-code-on-their-websites-131102/) :o ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Those of you that used to have a Demonoid account might be interested to know that the site is back!!! They've closed registrations for a while but if you previously had an account you can log in with your name and password. Turns out that after the Old Billski raided the place and confiscated the servers some Euros must have changed hands somewhere down the line and the data was leaked. Lovely jubbly 8) It's at d2.vu ;D
Going to take a while before it's back to 100% though.
I love it when these sites 'stick it to The Man' lol ;D ;D ;D
That's both Isohunt and Demonoid both back from the dead. Nice 8)