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SundayLeague => General Sundayleague Discussion => Topic started by: munkeespuzz on October 05, 2023, 09:32:38 PM

Title: Telegram
Post by: munkeespuzz on October 05, 2023, 09:32:38 PM
People using this app are saying this forum is dead. So they have taken to a third party Chat App to discuss the running of the competitions on Sundayleague. Now, I'm an old user returning, but i would like to know how other users feel about this games workings being discussed and decided with no input from users who do not want to use an outside App not affiliated to Sundayleague. In my opinion all discussions regarding this game should be posted in either the forum or site chat first. I also believe those with admin status should be sharing first and foremost in the game and on third party sites secondarily.
Title: Re: Telegram
Post by: mihai on October 06, 2023, 05:34:13 AM
I agree with you.

I believe that the important decisions regarding the private competitions should be posted here too.
Title: Re: Telegram
Post by: Banger on October 06, 2023, 08:13:15 PM
I made this exact point on the original Telegram thread, I can't see the point in using another platform
Title: Re: Telegram
Post by: Denmark_14 on October 07, 2023, 03:50:37 PM
It’s not people using the app saying the forum is dead, the forum is dead, that’s a fact, it has nothing to do with the app that it’s being said, so stop stirring the pot, it’s pathetic. What decisions about the game are being made from telegram? What discussions about the game are being done in the telegram? What needs to be shared from the app from admin to game? You seem to know a lot about a little or to be honest, nothing 🤷‍♂️ how about a thank you to everyone in the telegram league for being active and keeping the game running, the amount of people saying in there how they was ready to quit and the telegram chat kept them going. How many people are on the forum saying how happy they are? How many people in the forum trying to make new competitions to keep the game alive? How many people are even talking on the forum? Absolutely fuckin nobody. Nothing is being kept from anyone, the forum died long before the telegram came along, it’s so lucky it’s there or we would have lost more users. If there is anything you want to know or we feel needs to be said to everyone it will be put on the Sunday League chat.
Title: Re: Telegram
Post by: Marv999 on October 07, 2023, 04:14:21 PM
The forum is fucked for alot of people resulting in no access.  The owner of the game refuses to do anything to sort or fix this, and issues with the game. Therefore it's actually a luxury for those people to have a relaible 3rd party app which they can use to keep up to date with the game. And it's the most active I've seen sundayleague users in years.

The forum is dead anyway, and it was long before the Telegram app for SL users was created. And besides organising 1 cup (the Telegram league) nothing is decided or organised on there. The only thing that really needs organising these days is FL and even that's pretty much dead. I'd be suprised if we keep running 1 16 team FL1 going forwards.

If you don't want to be on Telegram then fine, your choice. But don't be a misery guts if that's your choice. We're on there having some good banter and talking about the game, it's not some secret affiliated group who hold secret meetings, so stop making it out to be that
Title: Re: Telegram
Post by: Marv999 on October 07, 2023, 04:21:37 PM
If the owner of the game decides he actually wants to fix it and make sure the forum is working and accessible for everyone I could maybe understand an argument but even still I'd be an advocate for an app to promote conversation about the game. People still stuck in the dial up era  ::)
Title: Re: Telegram
Post by: Sargybargy on October 07, 2023, 07:22:42 PM
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Title: Re: Telegram
Post by: munkeespuzz on October 07, 2023, 07:48:38 PM
 ;) ;D ;) ;D

See....the forum does work! Keyboard Warriors belong here, not on Telegram.
Title: Re: Telegram
Post by: superj on October 07, 2023, 09:28:35 PM
i think Marv hit the nail on the head with a few things here, The game is 20+ years old now, times have moved on and the Telegram group is so much easier to use and is very active with alot of managers giving eachother tips and banter.  i agree that for the few that aren't on there, any decisions made regarding any competitions should also be posted onto the forums.

For the few that aren't in the Telegram group, maybe just give it a try. we also have an exclusive Telegram Cup too
Title: Re: Telegram
Post by: northstar on October 08, 2023, 12:37:15 AM
hi chaps.

this works for me.. not been here in a while,
Title: Re: Telegram
Post by: Sargybargy on October 08, 2023, 08:54:17 AM
;) ;D ;) ;D

See....the forum does work! Keyboard Warriors belong here, not on Telegram.

Yeh mine does work
But I prefer to use the app
In my eyes it’s easier
And works better for me
Title: Re: Telegram
Post by: Banger on October 08, 2023, 04:13:03 PM
I was not aware people could not access these forums - I on the otherhand can only use this forum, I play this game via an old laptop that does not support Telegram, So even if I wanted to I can't join that
It was my view that if you can post on Telegram you could post here instead
Title: Re: Telegram
Post by: superj on October 08, 2023, 05:30:01 PM
Do you not have a smartphone banger?
Title: Re: Telegram
Post by: captain_kush on October 08, 2023, 07:05:48 PM
I am the one who created the Telegram group and it was never made or intended to replace the forum in any way shape or form whatsoever.

I did it because as we all know, there are so many problems in this game with the game freezing happening atleast once a season.
I thought that since most people now carry smartphones with on the go internet access, perhaps it would be easier for them to receive notifications straight away on a messenger app rather than waiting for information on the forums when things like this were to occur in the future. I was actually hoping Junior would have joined up so that users can get straight access to him rather than asking me or any other in game admin and thus waiting forever for their issues to be resolved.

I was also worried that SL will eventually break down forever (game and forums) so this was another way to keep connection with one another should that scenario ever happen.

Don't see what the problem is here. You do not have to join up the Telegram group if you don't want to, it is not mandatory lol.
No input on the workings of SL is being made on Telegram... Only Junior can do this.
There is nothing for me or admins to share whether it be here or anywhere else.
I have always shared any information from Junior on the forums first. Last post I did was September 03, 2023, 12:34:24 PM regarding the last freeze that happened. Nobody replied back to my message.

If somebody wants to set up a PL on Telegram then by all means they should do it, that's not my problem and it's up to the owner/creator of the PL to do whatever they want. There is no difference between that and a PL that requires a password to enter.

Anyone is more then welcome to use the forums, Telegram or even both if you want. Forum has been dead for years anyway prior to me creating the Telegram group so blaming this on the forums being dead is incorrect. The only person to blame here is the owner and we fools (customers) continue playing and paying for credits knowing deep well the pros and cons of this game. Everyone knows what you get with this game so lets stop arguing over rubbish.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Telegram
Post by: munkeespuzz on October 08, 2023, 08:59:43 PM
This thread was created to find out what users feel about Telegram going forward and if it will effect the forums and users who don't want to use the said App. A simple thread to judge community consensus. But a couple of cupcakes got their knickers in a twist and tried to turn it into an argument  ;D ;D ;D

You crack on with Telegram, it's your choice to be on there, it's my choice to avoid it. But if you lot start chatting on Tinder, i'm out of here!  ;)
Title: Re: Telegram
Post by: Gull on October 09, 2023, 01:44:20 PM
The Telegram chat has completely obliterated the forum, if anyone is saying any different they are talking absolute nonsense.
Title: Re: Telegram
Post by: captain_kush on October 09, 2023, 02:11:48 PM
The Telegram chat has completely obliterated the forum, if anyone is saying any different they are talking absolute nonsense.

Telegram group was active I would say in the first 2-3 months and even that has died with only the same 3-4 people making conversation there on and off topic.
I think your statement is absolute nonsense in all honesty. Everybody here knows the forums was always dead. The conference chats were long dead before the Telegram app was created and the forum was mainly used for issues with site/users along with signing up for competitions.

I couldn't care less anyway, it is what it is, I've been done with trying to help out as nothing positive comes from it and at the end of the day it is not my problem or responsibility. 
Title: Re: Telegram
Post by: Gull on October 09, 2023, 02:23:31 PM
The only thing that really needs organising these days is FL and even that's pretty much dead. I'd be suprised if we keep running 1 16 team FL1 going forward.

Shame to see Telegram chat has ruined FL aswell.
Title: Re: Telegram
Post by: captain_kush on October 09, 2023, 02:24:08 PM
This thread has been viewed over 100 times since it was created by Ty on the 4th October and most of the users who have posted here are also in the Telegram app.

This is what I mean by when I say the forum is dead.

How can you do a comparison when nobody even bothers to post anything in the forums in the first place and even when there is a post, nobody but the same usual people reply....
Title: Re: Telegram
Post by: Denmark_14 on October 09, 2023, 02:27:40 PM
Gull as usual talking shit 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Title: Re: Telegram
Post by: captain_kush on October 09, 2023, 02:29:21 PM
The only thing that really needs organising these days is FL and even that's pretty much dead. I'd be suprised if we keep running 1 16 team FL1 going forward.

Shame to see Telegram chat has ruined FL aswell.

It's a shame that nobody bothered to turn up and do a proper job like Brian has for many many seasons, sending 100s of messages every season along with daily reports and making sure the competition runs smoothly and on time.

It's a shame that nobody bothered to update the hall of fame and I had to post and remind but yeh blame Telegram on that sure thing.

I guess you can also blame Telegram for leaving and coming back to this game 100 times.



Title: Re: Telegram
Post by: Denmark_14 on October 09, 2023, 02:38:58 PM
If anyone believes that the telegram chat ruined the forum or FL, you are as thick as Gull. You know full well the forum was dead long before the telegram came along, and FL has been dying for a long time also. It’s the telegram chat that is trying to keep FL running, people in there always offering to help. Where is the non telegram users putting up sign up pages for all those using the forum or organising anything, you just all bitching about nothing.
Title: Re: Telegram
Post by: Gull on October 09, 2023, 02:39:39 PM
Brian lost interest in FL when everyone started using Telegram and not the forum. If Telegram wasn't "a thing" Brian would still be running FL. That's just my opinion, I'm not offended if anyone disagrees.

Don't get confused with my posts - I said Telegram has obliterated the forum which it has. It's finished. I'm not saying it was buzzing with activity beforehand, but it still existed with the odd post or two to keep you interested. Without the Telegram chat people would post on here still, there's nothing more to it than that.
Title: Re: Telegram
Post by: captain_kush on October 09, 2023, 02:48:06 PM
Brian lost interest in FL when everyone started using Telegram and not the forum. If Telegram wasn't "a thing" Brian would still be running FL. That's just my opinion, I'm not offended if anyone disagrees.

Don't get confused with my posts - I said Telegram has obliterated the forum which it has. It's finished. I'm not saying it was buzzing with activity beforehand, but it still existed with the odd post or two to keep you interested. Without the Telegram chat people would post on here still, there's nothing more to it than that

I am more then sure that is not the reason to why Brian quit running FL. Perhaps Brian can clarify and respond here if he would like to.

I feel like Brian quit running because it was getting repetitive, tiring, frustrating and nothing good was coming out of it. The same reason to why I quit running TCL/TEL/TEC.
We both tried our very best to make this game as appealing as possible but there is only so much a person can do and take and I'm sure Brian like me was starting to feel like he was getting taking advantage of and to clarify not by users but by the incompetence of the owner.
Title: Re: Telegram
Post by: Banger on October 09, 2023, 06:44:18 PM
Do you not have a smartphone banger?

Nope - Nokia 6310 ;)   
Title: Re: Telegram
Post by: Brian G. on October 10, 2023, 12:08:47 AM
Brian lost interest in FL when everyone started using Telegram and not the forum. If Telegram wasn't "a thing" Brian would still be running FL. That's just my opinion, I'm not offended if anyone disagrees.

Don't get confused with my posts - I said Telegram has obliterated the forum which it has. It's finished. I'm not saying it was buzzing with activity beforehand, but it still existed with the odd post or two to keep you interested. Without the Telegram chat people would post on here still, there's nothing more to it than that

I am more then sure that is not the reason to why Brian quit running FL. Perhaps Brian can clarify and respond here if he would like to.

I feel like Brian quit running because it was getting repetitive, tiring, frustrating and nothing good was coming out of it. The same reason to why I quit running TCL/TEL/TEC.
We both tried our very best to make this game as appealing as possible but there is only so much a person can do and take and I'm sure Brian like me was starting to feel like he was getting taking advantage of and to clarify not by users but by the incompetence of the owner.

  Just to make it clear Telegram had no part in why I quit running the Friendly League. I quit because I was fed up with Managers ignoring my request to them to help me by signing up for the game before they took their end of season break. This was made at the end of every season and it was mostly the same Managers every season that had to be constantly reminded. Managers did not realise how many games of football, Tennis, cricket and meals and family meetings , I missed while I was writing the reports every day. On occasion I would say that I may not be able to do a report on a certain day so if anyone could do one it would help but even though some Managers volunteered, no one actually did a report. Before and just after I started running Friendly League I, and other Managers would do a report on their own leagues as well as the main report. I used to set up a separate place for each league but not many Managers used them and eventually died out. When I took over the Friendly League, Junior said that if he could help anyway let him know. When I asked him for help (such as was there a way that a message could be made to all teams simultaneously} I got no reply at all. He even stopped replying to any message that I sent him. That s why I stopped sending him messages when the game froze up, I thought, if he cannot be bothered to answer someone trying to keep the game going for him, why should I bother. I had been thinking of taking up the Friendly League again but am reluctant because the first thing I would have to do is to ban three teams who repeatedly break the Friendly League rules even though I inform them what they should be doing but they ignore my advice so, to me, are spoiling the Friendly League name. There is much more that I could say but I think I have said too much already.
Title: Re: Telegram
Post by: munkeespuzz on October 10, 2023, 08:55:59 PM
You are an absolute legend Brian. I don't know how you have run the FL for so long on your own, brilliant work and full respect. I actually think we should all take a look at what your contribution has been and feel a bit ashamed to see the state of the game as it stands now. If we had 20 Brians, i reckon this site would be thriving.
Title: Re: Telegram
Post by: munkeespuzz on October 10, 2023, 09:07:31 PM
Messaged Junior tonight on Whatsapp in regards to log in security on SL2 and actually got a reply. If anyone needs anything they want to ask him, please PM me or post in here. I'm planning on bombarding the guy with questions....fed up with everyone being ignored on both SL sites
Title: Re: Telegram
Post by: captain_kush on October 17, 2023, 12:07:02 PM
Messaged Junior tonight on Whatsapp in regards to log in security on SL2 and actually got a reply. If anyone needs anything they want to ask him, please PM me or post in here. I'm planning on bombarding the guy with questions....fed up with everyone being ignored on both SL sites

I have just messaged him to reach out to Brian as he has lost one of his teams.
Maybe you can do the same which will hopefully push him to get Brian's team back at a faster rate before it's to late.
Title: Re: Telegram
Post by: munkeespuzz on October 17, 2023, 01:49:57 PM
Messaged Junior tonight on Whatsapp in regards to log in security on SL2 and actually got a reply. If anyone needs anything they want to ask him, please PM me or post in here. I'm planning on bombarding the guy with questions....fed up with everyone being ignored on both SL sites

I have just messaged him to reach out to Brian as he has lost one of his teams.
Maybe you can do the same which will hopefully push him to get Brian's team back at a faster rate before it's to late.

I'll do that now mate.
Title: Re: Telegram
Post by: Brian G. on October 19, 2023, 10:47:49 AM

Thanks to all who contacted Junior re me losing Sandwich.  Pleased to be able to say that he has got them back for me.
Thanks again

Brian.
Title: Re: Telegram
Post by: captain_kush on October 19, 2023, 11:43:53 AM
Glad you got your team back Brian!

Thanks also to Ty, who helped me get through to Junior. Much appreciated mate.
Title: Re: Telegram
Post by: munkeespuzz on October 19, 2023, 02:41:43 PM
Good news Brian. Funnily enough, i was in Sandwich on Saturday. Lovely place  8)