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General => Video Games => Topic started by: jman on February 19, 2013, 07:44:32 AM
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OK, I think your threads only need approval if the first post in it contains a link - so here goes again (without the links) - OK just confirmed that this is the case.. so just edited the post to re-add the links in - how stupid ::)
Theres going to be a lot of news about the PS4 this week Im sure, probably best to start a new thread.
So unless your living under a rock in regards to gaming news, its expected that the PS4 is going to be showcased from their event on Wednesday 20th February - streamed live from 11pm at https://us.playstation.com/meeting2013/
So far we've got the rumoured PS4 controller (http://media.t3.com/img/resized/ps/xl_ps4_controller_leak-1.jpg)
Another rumour today is that the PS4 will only have cloud backwards compatibility - i.e. the only way to play PS3 games will be over the internet - Im not sure this is a great move on sonys part to be honest. Link (http://www.christianpost.com/news/ps4-to-stream-ps3-games-over-the-internet-eliminates-need-for-physical-copies-90233/)
Its also rumoured it will be split into 2 different SKUs - the base model rumoured to cost at least $400
Its also been rumoured that Europe will have to wait until next year before the PS4 lands whereas other regions will get it this year - same as the Vita then.
I doubt we will hear about price until E3 - but hopefully we should know when the console will be released come Wednesday.
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The latest rumour about the PS4 is that Sony are going to sell it over here for £300 :o bloody hell, that's going to fly off shelves if that's the case!!! They'll be making a huge loss on each unit sold doing that. I was expecting a minimum of £400 for both the PS4 and 720, and they would still be making a loss on each unit sold. Buggering flip :o
Just to add this post in here... its what I heard and said yesterday - $400 for a base model.. sounds like a great price point
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I'd not even considered that there might be base and premium versions for ps4/orbis. Have Sony ever done that before?
I've had it in mind for a long time that the proper next gen consoles will likely be £350-£400 (though I've no real basis for that, just a vague expectation of how much we'll need to save up).
The rumours of £300 would be fantastic if that's the "all in" price in the UK, but I suspect you'd need to add VAT onto that. And with shipping costs, and the UK's usual higher markup we could well be looking at £400 or more.
Controller images - unconfirmed but almost certainly correct:
(http://www.dealspwn.com/writer/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/ps4-controller-2-540x378.jpg)
(http://www.thesixthaxis.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/ds411.jpg)
Labels in that second image are just someone's best guess - from here (http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2013/02/15/that-ps4-dual-shock-4-controller-explored-in-full/).
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Just realised with that close up of the controller - they've gone concave instead of convex on the analogue sticks.. about bloody time - I cant see the triggers though - you'd hope they would copy the 360 pad on that too - the d-pad doesn't look too inviting.
I think those pictures are just prototypes of the controller, Im expecting it to be slightly different... there was a rumour the pad would have a screen-record button which recorded your last x minutes of gameplay... so like I said, expecting some tweaks still.
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Being able to record stuff would be really cool, but that was also rumoured to be happening with the Wii U so we'll have to wait and see I guess.
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Well that was a disappointing event from what I have been reading up about today - totally boring in fact... how can you introduce us the future.. without showing us it ??
Guess its time to wait till E3 - however I cant see the PS4 launching for less than £400 with some of the announced specs - knocks seven shades of shit out of the Wii U though, right harv ;)
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GAME alre already taking pre-order deposits for the PS4 (http://www.game.co.uk/en/console-209744?pageSize=20&searchTerm=255967) - nothing from that presentation made me want one personally, pretty much all the games were multi-platform and already stated that the controller is an improvement, but still not jumping out at me. Other than that, the tech sounds good - although I am worried about how much the whole thing will cost - anything above £350 is too much.
I'd stick a pre-order down at this stage, but not a deposit.
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Yup, I was texting with my mate that works at Sony while it was going on and he hit the nail on the head - all style and no substance.
Wasn't surprised that we didn't see anything draw dropping either, we're not too far away from diminishing returns. And I can't see it being less than £400, we may even see 2 SKUs - one for £450 and one for £550. I can't believe that Sony still haven't learnt any lessons from the launches of the PSP, PS3 and Vita. They're still launching expensive super powerful consoles despite the ridiculous success they achieved with the modestly powered and affordable PS1 and PS2 and the success that Nintendo had withtthe DS and Wii.
Even if they launch for £450 they're still going to make a huge loss on each unit sold, having 8GB of GDDR5 is a mistake.
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Have just read that there's no DS3 support either, so previous PS3 owners will need to buy a DS4 if they want 2 player local play.
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I remember picking up my PS3 just after launch for about £425. I thought it was expensive but also thought I was paying for a superior gaming machine so I didn't mind. MS were clever, coming in at a lower base price point but making you pay extra for necessary add-ons like Xbox Live and a Wireless Adapter (I've never needed one, but I guess some people would, and £60 was expensive).
I do think they need to aim for sub-£400 though. MS will surely come in cheaper than Sony as they seem more prepared to cut corners and obviously generate extra revenue with XBL.
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Well sony haven't really detailed their online services yet.. just that a new "Playstation World" is going to replace PS Plus & PSN... they have gone into a few specific details.. and we know there will be a subscription service in there someplace... I wouldnt be too suprised if sony copied microsoft and started charging for online gaming though... from a business perspective - they are losing god knows how much by not doing it... and has it affected hardware/software sales for microsoft.. no it hasn't... the 360 has still sold more hardware and definitely sells more software... charging for online play would surely subsidise a large chunk of the cost of the PS4.. however going from a free service to a paid service will get the backs up of current playstation owners - I would see it as an evolution though - which is entirely the focus of their press conference.
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Having been impressed by Watch Dogs at E3 this video has excited me even more:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6W8MSJtgKQ
Looks lush!
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Having been impressed by Watch Dogs at E3 this video has excited me even more:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6W8MSJtgKQ
Looks lush!
Although it should be noted that's a PC SKU running with similar specs to the PS4. Shouldn't be too much different when we see the final PS4 SJU running. No matter what it looks like the Wii U SKU should be awesome to play given that this sort of game is tailor-made for a touchscreen controller.
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Watchdogs does look good... looks like the PC platform is going to be the lead platform for that game... funny that because heres me thinking that the Wii U is going to be the lead platform for every single multi-platform game of next gen ;D
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Can't wait for Watch Dogs. Looks great - will definitely buy it on whichever console I end up buying.
That said, I might not buy a next gen console until they've been out a few months, see how they measure up - so I might end up getting Watch Dogs on the 360.
Will be fascinated to hear how the game compares between the current and next gen versions. Could prove a handy yardstick. How will textures compare? Load times? Draw distances? Numbers of characters onscreen? And so on...
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You're also probably better off waiting a few months to see if there are any RROD or YLOD type instances, given Sony are using 8GB of GDDR5 I'd say that the PS4 is more likely to have problems overheating. The 720 should be in a better position given their choice of RAM and GPU. DDR3 and a 1.1TFlop GPU is going to be miles easier to keep from frying than GDDR5 and a 1.8TFlop GPU.
I'm quite worried about Sony's future now tbh, they could very well have another Vita on their hands. :-\
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My points are quite valid mate. The PS4 is going to be a real bitch to keep cool, I'd feel more comfortable buying a 720 than a PS4 at the moment. Not only is it going to be cheaper it's also going to run a lot cooler.
Sony may have made a fatal mistake bunging 8GB of GDDR5 under the hood. They don't seem to be learning a great deal from past successes and failures.
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The Wii U is the vita though... ;D in terms of sales you cant even begin to argue against that... nobody wants an underpowered console with no games just as much as nobody wants an expensive handheld with limited games.
Sony are giving us a powerhouse... I would seriously have to consider getting one if the 720 cant keep up... it would be the gamers console.. so not sure what the hell your talking about - seeing as the 720 specs are age old - Im not believing them until they are detailed with fact. Rumours are, microsoft could do a similar press conference to sony in April and if Microsoft release a console thats comparable and cheaper - the PS4 will be fucked.
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Harv, given that you think the Wii was excellent, that the Wii U is the mutts nuts, that you didn't much like the 360, and you didn't much like the ps3 - thanks for letting us know that the ps4 will be crap. It lets proper gamers know that that's the console to go for.
My points are quite valid mate. The PS4 is going to be a real bitch to keep cool, I'd feel more comfortable buying a 720 than a PS4 at the moment. Not only is it going to be cheaper it's also going to run a lot cooler.
You haven't a clue what's in the 720! You also don't fully know what's in the ps4. It could be liquid cooled for all we know. (Yeah, I know it won't be.) I have much more confidence in Sony's ability to make a top gaming console than I have in your ability to predict the future or recognise a good game or console when you see one.
Sony may have made a fatal mistake bunging 8GB of GDDR5 under the hood. They don't seem to be learning a great deal from past successes and failures.
You know who did make a mistake, and failed to learn from their past? Nintendo. Their machine was woefully underpowered last generation, and despite selling well due to novelty value quickly became a laughing stock. This time round they've made a machine that's woefully underpowered once again, and think that people will snap it up like they did the Wii. They won't. People aren't that stupid. Once bitten twice shy - we know that if we buy their crappy console it'll be interesting for a week or two then gathering dust in no time.
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The 720 is going to have the same RAM setup as the Wii U, sacrificing bandwidth for low latency. It's a much better solution - the DDR3 is much better suited for OS functions, easier to keep cool and a great deal cheaper. The same sources that told us we wereggetting GDDR5 in the PS4 are telling us we're getting DDR3 and ESRAM in the 720. DDR3 is also a better option when you take optical disc speeds and hard drive speeds into account, developers are going to have problems with bottlenecks because of this.
If the PS4 doesn't fly off shelves this combined with the commercial failure of the Vita could send Sony down the toilet. There's no way that the PS4 is going to be sold for less than 400 dollars/pounds, the 720 will end up selling for $/£399.99.
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New teaser trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_mM7I9Wsx0) showing off the PS4 hardware.. not that you can make much out.. except the fact its black.. lol.. think Sony are thinking they didnt do enough in their February conference - which they didnt and trying to upstage microsofts announcement - it hasn't worked.
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Instructional video on how to share games on PS4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kWSIFh8ICaA)
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Yep this whole no sharing/buying pre owned games is a major cock up by Microsoft. I wonder which idiot on a6 figure salary thought that was a good idea.
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To be fair, I strongly suspect Sony think it a good idea, too.
But then they realised an even better idea would be to piss all over Microsoft's chips.
Fair play.
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(http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/8237/ps4x.png)
(http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/8553/bourbon.png)
It's like spot the difference...
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Instructional video on how to share games on PS4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kWSIFh8ICaA)
Lmfao, awesome lololol ;D ;D ;D
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Sony recently released a FAQ about the PS4..
Some stuff I wasn't 100% sure on, some of it was surprising - especially the first two..
It cant play any audio CDs.. or MP3s
It cant stream anything from a computer (so no movie playback)
You can replace the hard-drive but you cant use an external hard-drive
You can use it horizontally or vertically
The PS4 supports 3D gameplay
You have to download a day1 update to actually play Blu-Ray/DVD movies
PS4 & PS3 users can play online together
Full Link (http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2013/10/30/playstation-4-the-ultimate-faq/)
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It's worth noting the day one download is only about 300mb, and will download in the background while you're doing something else.
Odd that it doesn't playback audio CDs or MP3.
Should be an easy thing to patch in later, but I can't see why it's not enabled out of the box (or in the day 1 patch).
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It can't stream anything from a PC..? Even the Wii U can stream mp4 files using the browser :o
And no external hard drives..? Very odd :-\
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It can run COD: Ghosts (a last-gen game) in native 1080p though.
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I've heard a few people reconsidering the X1 though now the news that the PS4 isn't DLNA compliant.. its a bit of a screw up on sony's part here.. what's the point in creating a multi-media machine when it cant play cds and more importantly it cant stream from a pc.
Being able to output a game in a higher resolution to its next competitor is great.. whether this will always be the case going forward is still to be seen... but actually losing key functions from your device could be a step too far for some people.. although I don't really play cds/mp3s from my xbox - I certainly stream a lot of stuff from my pc - pretty much on a daily basis!
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Slight twist to the Trophy system on the ps4. Data will be stored on how many people have each trophy, so particularly rare ones will be highlighted.
(TBH I'd imagine platinums are rare, golds slightly less rare, bronzes pretty common - but I guess there'll be some bronzes that are rare.)
It's a dynamic system, so rarity will change over time.
kotaku (http://kotaku.com/how-trophies-work-on-ps4-1462654603)
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If buying a ps4 from Game at a midnight launch I hear there'll be a few deals on offer:
LEGO Marvel Super Heroes half price £25
GAMEware Vertical Stand or GAMEware Starter Pack for half price
Call of Duty: Ghosts for £40 (or free if you trade in a current-gen version of Ghosts previously purchased at GAME)
£10 off a number of games (Killzone: Shadow Fall, Knack, FIFA 14, Battlefield 4, Need For Speed: Rivals, NBA 2K14, Madden NFL 25, Putty Squad)
£10 off a PlayStation Plus subscription.
Official licensed stereo headset for £69.99 (£30 saving)
Reduced price BluRays (£12.99 each: The Wolverine, Man Of Steel, Despicable Me 2, Kick-Ass 2, Alan Partridge: Alpha Papa, Pacific Rim.)
Possibly other deals. I'm not sure whether these deals are set in stone or just rumour but I've seen mention in a couple of places.
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Fucking hell, apparently the battery on the DS4 only lasts 7-8 hours :o
The GamePad has a big fuck off screen on it and lasts 4-5 hours...what's Sony's excuse lol :o :-\ ;D
Reports of faulty PS4s coming in already too, IGN's review machine was fucked apparently lol.
Someone I used to work with had a nightmare run of day one consoles - 360, fucked. PSP, fucked. DS, fucked. PS3 (which he went all the way to the States to get), fucked. :o ;D ;D ;D
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http://www.ps3trophies.org/news/news-11664-PlayStation-4-Shifts-1-Million-Units-in-24-Hours--Sony-Offers-Guidance-on-Faulty-Consoles.html
1 Million Units in 24 hours is frighteningly huge, and Europe hasn't even had it's launch yet!
And Harv thinks the Wii U will compete with those figures....lol
Just for a bit of perspective, the Wii U has done 3.3 Million in just over a year...When Sony can shift a third of that amount in a single day, there's absolutely no question the Wii U is done for. The Xbox One will most likely follow a similar trend, I don't think they'll sell as many as that on launch day, but it'll still be high.
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To be fair, I think the Wii U worldwide sales are actually just a smidge under 4 million at the moment.. but then it only did 425k in the first week of launch in NA... I still think both consoles will overtake it within a year
Bit disconcerting there are widespread technical problems with the PS4 already though :-\ TV incompatibility - really ? lol
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A fantastic achievement, really surprised me that they managed to ship that many. Going to be interesting to see how many units get shipped to Europe and how many units following shipments are before the end of the year.
I can't see the Microsoft shipping anywhere near that many though, they're only shipping to 13 countries and they're having yield issues with their ESRAM.
I originally had my doubts that either one of them would ship more than 2m before the end of the year given shipments last gen but the PS4 is going to obliterate that figure. Although there are numerous reports of hardware issues, and I can't see the One being any different. Not worth the risk buying a Sony or Microsoft console on day one imo, I'm waiting until next year before I get my PS4. Everyone can be my Beta testers until then lol ;D
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Not worth buying a Sony or Microsoft machine on day one..
But definitely buy a Nintendo machine at launch where you have to wait 6 months for the next load of games, have no online gameplay and experience technical issues on top!!
;D ;D
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Kudos to Sony. A million sales on day one in NA is fantastic.
I know there's been a lot of negative press about machines failing to boot, but as is always the case, it's the minority who are affected that are making the most noise. Sony have stated 99.6% of machines working - i.e. 0.4% failure. If that's accurate that's pretty damned impressive tbh. (If accurate.) They were particularly unlucky in shipping defective consoles to IGN and to a blogger who won an advance release machine.
Fingers crossed for Microsoft having a similarly high success rate - and for nobody we know having a bad machine.
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Not worth buying a Sony or Microsoft machine on day one..
But definitely buy a Nintendo machine at launch where you have to wait 6 months for the next load of games, have no online gameplay and experience technical issues on top!!
;D ;D
What technical issues..? The OS was a bit slow but hardly a big deal. No problem with the online either. There was a software drought but there was plenty available at launch to keep me entertained, some great indie stuff available from the eShop and a good few VC titles available for 30p each during their 30th anniversary promotion.
My point was that you're taking a risk getting a Microsoft or Sony on day one because you may have games up the wazoo (and there certainly isn't for the PS4 and One anyway) and great online gameplay (and that remains to be seen as well, you're probably not going to have smooth sailing at the start) but it's not going to matter a jot if your console isn't working lol. ;D
There are also a fair few reports of the rubber on the DS4 analog sticks being fucked too.
Like I've said before, love them or hate them Nintendo consoles are reliable, they're made to last.
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Consoles tend to depreciate in price extremely slowly...Even after an eventual price drop, it's still only £70-80 less...hardly worth waiting on is it.
The console is already dirt cheap, imo, at least, given the fact the PS3 starting price was £425 almost 8 years ago now...Do I really want to wait around a year for a price drop that will only see it drop fractionally? Might aswell grab it now and enjoy it, even though I still have a large PS3 backlog, but like I mentioned before, I always intended to still play my PS3 anyway.
Besides, with Sony shipping 1 Million in units in 24 hours in North America, do you really think a price drop is likely before next Christmas? I doubt it.
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Wasn't just talking about the Wii U harv.. but if you do buy a Nintendo console, you are guaranteed a software drought and poor online integration with missing features from the off...
Technical issues wise on the Wii U, there were a ton of bricked consoles at the start if I remember (from a day one update) and the slow and shitty OS.. with firmware updates taking an absolute age to roll out.
Every console has teething problems at the start.. Nintendo included.
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The only bricks were due to idiots turning off their consoles in the middle of an update.
I agree that consoles have teething troubles, but there's a big difference between hardware reliability being shite and hardware behaving the way any other piece of electronic equipment does when being switched off during an update.
Are any of you Xbox One owners worried about your console dying soon after buying it..? Some of you have had 3 or 4 360s, haven't you..? At the beginning of the 360's life the failure rate was something like 1 in 3 consoles, unless I'm remembering that incorrectly..? :-\
I'd be pretty nervous at switching the thing on if I bought a One on launch day myself. :o
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Not worried in the slightest. If it breaks they'll give me a new one.
I think the billion or so dollars their failure rate cost them last gen will ensure they've taken considerably more care this time around.
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Picked up my PS4 this morning...Had to settle for a bundle, so went for the Knack bundle, along with FIFA 14 for a total of £405....Not bad considering I didn't even realise FIFA 14 was 55 fnarging quid!
Anyway, not gonna get much time to play it until later tonight since I'm about to head to the Villa, was hoping for a quick go on FIFA but had to do a mandatory install which took about 30 minutes.
Console design is nice, classic black and quiet slim and sleek and I can already tell the controller is a massive improvement. New interface looks was better than the old style XMB, but I'll give a more detailed verdict when I've played around and seen the console in action.
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How's she handling, then, Ross?
I see Sony have added another "freemium" game on the ps4 - "Blacklight Retribution" was added to the UK list yesterday.
Free games whether you have PS+ or not:
- War Thunder
- Warframe
- Blacklight: Retribution
- DC Universe Online
Free games With PS+ only:
- Resogun
- Contrast
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Nice announcement from Sony at CES. Their new "PlayStation Now" service will allow you to stream ps3 games to ps3, ps4, vita, tablets, phones, etc. Will kick off in the States this summer.
Playstation blog (http://blog.us.playstation.com/2014/01/07/playstation-now-streaming-game-service-coming-this-summer/)
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Drive Club has been put back again. The "launch title" might not make it onto shelves before 2015, now.
There are rumours (which I think unlikely to be true) that it's been delayed so that it can launch with Morpheus compatibility. You never know. It'd probably be a very good title for the tech - which seems better suited to games where you're in a seat/cockpit.
As for Morpheus, it's great to see Sony finally announce it. It's something that folk have been talking about for a long time, but we've had no official word until now.
(Hopefully Microsoft will announce their version soon. They're heavily tipped to be working on one, and it'd be folly not to.)
playstation blog (http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2014/03/19/introducing-project-morpheus/)
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Awesome sauce. I'm going to be all over this!!!
Would be better if it had a similar sort of 3D that the 3DS uses though.
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Well obviously the world would be better if everything was Nintendo, but unfortunately copyright laws prevent that. Perhaps you could just print out a Nintendo logo and sellotape it to the side?
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That's why I said SIMILAR. Although you'd probably end up with motion sickness if it was 3D. No idea how 3D tellies work though, perhaps they could implement a similar sort of thing that tellies have and incorporate the glasses into the Morpheus headset..?
Will probably be too expensive though so can't see it happening. :(
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You're missing the tech completely, mate. Not by a little bit. You're miles off course!
3d is inherently natural with VR, in comparison to the difficulties you get on TVs and consoles.
Both 3d tellies and the 3ds project two images onto one screen. The TVs use glasses to ensure your left eye sees half of the image (the half filmed with the left hand camera); and your right eye sees the other pixels. The 3ds effectively does the same but without the glasses - it just asks your eyes to adjust themselves to each seeing the half they're supposed to see.
VR goggles are much simpler, in that they have two screens. So anything that's intended for your left eye is projected to the left screen, stuff for your right eye is shown on the right screen. There's no need to use interlace or polarisation tech or anything like that to make images three dimensional.
3d in that respect is a piece of piss. The main difficulty in VR is latency. The gyroscopes need to work with the software to show the image rotating within a millisecond of you moving your head otherwise you're gonna hurl.
Due to the way you're effectively only moving your head and not properly rotating your full body most folk find it still doesn't work all that well for most games and applications though. If you're sat on the couch playing an fps and someone behind you is shooting at you you obviously don't want to turn around 180 degrees in your seat to see and shoot them.
It does, however, work perfectly for games where you're sat in a cockpit or drivers seat. You wouldn't use it to turn the car/vehicle. You'd only use it for looking around as you turn with a wheel/joystick/joypad.
So it's arguably of limited use - but it's exciting all the same.
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Oh, okay. Sounds good then. ;D
Hopefully someone's working on a William Gibson game, would be great considering he's the guy who came up with the concept, albeit without a headset. His idea was set in the future with hacker's 'jacking in' to the Virtual Reality world via a socket in their heads connected to their brains.
If you haven't read Neuromancer I highly recommend it, it's an awesome novel.
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This will be something I would buy a PS4 for.. so here's hoping Microsoft follows suit.. which I imagine they will do. Who cares what it plays like.. how cool does it look !!!
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Going to be annoying if it remains wired though. Not sure if we'll see something from Microsoft though, Sony have been working on this for years. A shame they can't use Nintendo's wireless protocol (NI-FI if I remember correctly) that enables the GamePad to be lag-free. Still have no idea how they've managed to do that tbh. Probably Pikmin lol ;D
It's probably going to cost an arm and a leg too but I'm more than willing to pay whatever they want for it, although I'll have to save up for a good while.
Will be getting a PS4 early next year, can't see this being available by then. We're probably talking about late 2015/early 2016 at the earliest I reckon.
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Wired seems likely to me. You reduce latency, and the battery life of something with two high def screens (not to mention processors, gyroscopes, etc.) is going to be horrendous.
It's known that Microsoft have been working on various VR and AR techs for a long time. They haven't announced anything on VR yet but I imagine they will before the year is done.
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Have just been checking out some Oculus Rift videos for the horror game demo, can't wait to play horror games using Morpheus. Last generation had some great horror titles, although the Wii had the best of the bunch for some weird reason, but this generation with VR is going to be amazing. Give us a proper Resident Evil, a decent Silent Hill, a Fatal Frame, a House of The Dead and bring back Clock Tower. Best. Generation. Ever. :o ;D :o 8)
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Amongst other things, today's ps4 patch allows you to set the brightness of the light bar on your controller. That'll be popular - I know a lot of folk were irritated by how bright it is, meaning it reflects on their tv.
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Oh dear.
Sony's PS-now service is now in beta - and is getting slaughtered.
Of course, with it being in beta it's possible things will improve. But it looks bad.
Whilst the infrastructure seems robust, and it's great to have cross-play and cloud saves (so play for a while on your ps4, switch to your vita for a bit, carry on on your ps-tv etc.) the pricing is ridiculous. Laughably ridiculous.
You pick your game then say how long you want to rent it for. 4 hours, 7 days, 30 days, or 90 days.
Like seriously - 4 hours?!
Anyway, Gameinformer have put together a little bit of a comparison table.
(http://www.dealspwn.com/writer/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/PS-Now-beta-price-comparison-540x263.png)
Deus Ex HR and FF-13 are fine examples. I'll ignore the 4 hour option. You're not likely to get out of the initial building of DXHR in that time, and you're not going to get much beyond cut scenes in the first few hours of ffxiii.
So you're looking at paying around £6 to access one of those games for a week. You could probably complete them in that time but you'd be missing LOADS.
Alternatively you could pick them up brand new for last gen consoles for about £10 or second hand for about £5.
Uh, thanks but no thanks Sony.
Such a waste of a fantastic opportunity.
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Lmfao, what on earth are they thinking..? :o ;D
That's going to fail miserably :o
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Uncharted 4: A Thief's End has been delayed by several months into "Spring 2016."
Ouch...
That's gotta hurt PS4 sales in Q4 this year.
playstation.com (http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2015/03/11/uncharted-4-thiefs-end-coming-spring-2016-2/)