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SundayLeague => Football => Topic started by: jman on March 08, 2012, 10:43:35 AM
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Mancini declares interest in RVP... (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17296185)
Will RVP stay another season...???... I doubt it personally... ;)
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Probably why Arsenal have reportedly agreed a fee for Lukas Podolski.
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Lu Lu Lu lukas podolski 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcHdHNbC3jM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
RVP will still be at Arsenal next season, take it to the bank ;)
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Oh god.. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/mar/26/football-tranfers-rumours-chelsea-ronaldo-higuain?newsfeed=true)
*awaits drags' whinge and moan at our board* ;D
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If Chelsea do buy him I bet he turns crap as soon as he arrives.
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Oh god.. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/mar/26/football-tranfers-rumours-chelsea-ronaldo-higuain?newsfeed=true)
*awaits drags' whinge and moan at our board* ;D
Well surely even we couldn't stop him from scoring goals. However, can't see it myself and half of these rumours are just that, rumours. None of these players are going to join us if we aren't in the Champions League, which is waht I said would happen if we didn't sign two wingers, a creative midfielder and a right back.
As for the whinge about the board, if there is any truth in any of the rumours, it means that the new man who will be coming in as manager has not got any say in who we buy and isn't building his own team.
Unless of course Roman already knows who the new manager will be.
I'll prfer to wait until our end of season fate is known and we know who the new manager will be.
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RVP going to barca now??... I cant see him staying at arsenal next season.. take that to the bank!! ;D
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Podolski apparently prefers to play from the left so I can't see him being a replacement for RVP. I've heard Arsenal are scouting Giroud (Ligue 1 top scorer) from Montpellier as a replacement though in case he leaves. Can't see him going myself.
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Well I thought I'd post some players Reading have been linked with because now we're premier league someone other then myself and Kenny might care who we are trying to buy. As we're about to be taken over by a Rich Russian with a hit wife (apparently done deal by the end of week but the Premier League are doing some serious digging...Cheers Portsmouth) we've been linked with a few players so here goes.
Former players
Kevin Doyle - no thanks Wolves have ruined all our hard work turning him into a great player.
Gylfi Sigurdsson - yes please but Hoffenheim have valued him at £10 million and supposedly Arsenal and Man United are interested.
Stephen Hunt - OH GOD NO!!!
Other targets
Wilfried Zaha and Nathaniel Clyne - Apparentky we are going to offer £8 million for both.
Ryan Bertrand - Spent a season with us back in 2009 was a big hit we need a new Left back as whilst Ian Harte is amazing he's getting on and his pace is pretty much non existent. Best free kick taker in the land though.
Yakubu - linked today would be good but we have like 9 strikers as it is.
Craig Michail Smith - not Prem quality not even championship quality.
Stephen Dobbie - Don't really have an opinion on him.
Matt Phillips - going to be a good player in the future maybe not one for right now.
Keiran Richardson - can play right back, left back, right mid could be a good signing.
Andrew Johnson - see Yakubu post mentioning amount of strikers we have.
Wayne Bridge - we do need a left back but no thanks.
Owen Hargreaves - ahahahaha I think I'll pass on the walking injury.
There are more but I'm bored of typing and my thumb is tired. I doubt we'll get any of those though Mcsermott is usually good at keeping his targets under wraps.
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Leeds United are apparetly in talks with El Hadi Diouf, obviously he is a very controvesal player, but personally, I think Leeds need more players like him if there gonna push for promotion next season...
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Looks like Didi is not going to sign a new contract according to an interview he gave with a french magazine in which he confirmed he plans to leave... I cant blame him to be honest, a player like that doesnt deserve to be benched and its great that he wants to carry on playing... as long as he isnt going to another english team, I wish him the best of luck in the future.. 8 great years and a club legend...
Didier Drogba la la la la la!!
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off to anzhi maybe.
if i were a chav id be worried about the comments torres made after the final.
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Looks like Didi is not going to sign a new contract according to an interview he gave with a french magazine in which he confirmed he plans to leave... I cant blame him to be honest, a player like that doesnt deserve to be benched and its great that he wants to carry on playing... as long as he isnt going to another english team, I wish him the best of luck in the future.. 8 great years and a club legend...
Didier Drogba la la la la la!!
Very shocked by this. Drogba was everything you could ask for in a player in the last couple of games in the Champions League. Granted he could have done without giving away that penalty in the final, but I thought his performances were superb against Barcelona and Bayern Munich, even if he did dive "a little" against Barcelona, it was in fairness to get Chelsea's defenders a couple of seconds to catch a breather, very smart.
To think someone just scored in the biggest game of the clubs history, you'd think the only decent thing to do would be to offer him a new contract, but oh well...
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Looks like we've let Owen and Berbatov go, think Macheda could be next so we're in the market for a striker. Wouldn't be too happy if we signed Van Persil though given his fitness record.
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Surely if rvp goes, it'll be to a club whose actually winning trophies ;D
God knows how you'll replace Owen AND berbatoss though, such important players ::)
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Looks like Didi is not going to sign a new contract according to an interview he gave with a french magazine in which he confirmed he plans to leave... I cant blame him to be honest, a player like that doesnt deserve to be benched and its great that he wants to carry on playing... as long as he isnt going to another english team, I wish him the best of luck in the future.. 8 great years and a club legend...
Didier Drogba la la la la la!!
Very shocked by this. Drogba was everything you could ask for in a player in the last couple of games in the Champions League. Granted he could have done without giving away that penalty in the final, but I thought his performances were superb against Barcelona and Bayern Munich, even if he did dive "a little" against Barcelona, it was in fairness to get Chelsea's defenders a couple of seconds to catch a breather, very smart.
To think someone just scored in the biggest game of the clubs history, you'd think the only decent thing to do would be to offer him a new contract, but oh well...
Actually turns out the french magazine was talking a load of balls.. Ron Gourlay announced that contract talks are still ongoing... weird..
And by all accounts we have offered him a new contract... a 1 year extension... which he rejected.. I believe he wants at least 2 years.. so he'd be 36 before his contract expires.. he's a great striker but you have to realise that as a club we need to rebuild.. I would love him to stay in some kind of capacity, but he cant be the top drog forever.
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I'm actually split over whether we should keep him or not. He's pretty unique as a striker and gives us a different option, but he also restricts the way we play and I think it is Drogba more than anyone who makes it difficult for us to change the way we play.
If he was happy to stay and accept that he's going to be on the bench a lot, then I'd say we should keep him. Starting him in certain gamesa gainst some teams would be great and he would be a great option for a plan B from the bench. Unfortunately I can't see him accepting not being numero uno striker and I don't think the club will want to pay big money wages to a player who would be mostly on the bench.
If he goes now it will be as a legend, especially after his goal and penalty in the CL final. What a way to go out. I think that would be better than simply watching him fade away.
As I said, I also think of all of the "old guard" he is the one who is preventing the team from being revamped and the style being changed. He is the only player who makes it difficult to adapt to a more passing style. It has never worked very well playing him in a front two, or with other strikers. He is better with two decent wide men and as a focal point, which is why we have struggled becasue we have not adequately replaced Duff and Robben in the last few years.
Lamps still has a lot to offer and has proven he can adapt his game and play a more defensive role. What RDM has done with Lamps may be good for England as Lamps has shown discipline in playing a deep role besides Mikel against Barca and Bayern, so it is possible that both he and Gerrard could start together and be successful.
New players can then be brought into the team around Lamps.
JT is a centre back, so he is not going to affect the way we play going forward. He's actually a pretty good passer of the ball and is good in possession. Even when he first broke through and was partnering Desailly, Desailly passed the ball off to JT to bring out. He's not getting any younger and injuries will catch up with him but with a defender like Luiz next to him who has pace, he can still be a top defender. Chaill is looking a very good replacement though.
So really, the experience and leadership ability of JT and Lamps can be vital in the transition period with new players coming in. Chelsea will still be able to adapt their style.
I also think that RDM can adapt our style. West Brom played a passing game under him. I think he has shown with his tactics against Bayern and Barca that he can adopt different tactics.
Plenty of transfer rumours over who we are going to buy now, with Roman apparently ready to splash the cash. I'd just prefer it if we let the manager choose players. When you have a good man manager, like Jose, Hiddink or RDM, it's important that they are able to choose the players or be involved in the transfer process because there is less likely to be a clash of personalities. It's like any job, it's not just about the player's ability, he needs to be able to fit in personalty wise and not be a potential problem in the dressing room. Especially if the owner is promising a new signing he will play and the manager wants to leave him out.
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I hope we keep Drogs, not to fussed either way with Torres but we definately need to get rid of loads. The likes of Kalou, Malouda, Boswinga, Meireles, Ferreira, Turnbull and dare I say it Essien.
Ferreira has been a great servent to the club but his time is up, Essien looks like he will never be the player he once was due to all his injuries, all the others aren't consistant enough. I would have added Mikel to the list, but I think RDM has got the best out of him.
As for replacements, I'm sure Roman...err sorry the new manager will know who he wants. ;)We urgently require a quality number 2 Keeper, because if Cech gets injured we would be just like the goons.........I heard both Craig Gordon and Jaaskalainen are available as contracts have finished at Bolton and Sunderland, then Courtois could keep gaining experience in Spain.
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He's definitely leaving. He's released a statement saying he's going.
That could spell the beginning of the end for some of Chelsea's old guard. Refresh the ranks a little.
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Yep, its only drogs leaving though.. lamps has another year to see out yet and will probably get an extension next year anyway.. JT still has plenty of years left in him yet.. Cech seems to be coming into his prime as well.. so cant see us replacing him.. he went through a bad patch at the start of the season.. but like most players, flourished towards the end and proved he's still one of the best in the world..
The Torres reports after the CL were all taken out of context naturally.. but I can imagine that he'll be relieved to see the back of Drogba.. not because of any dislike.. but because Didi has always been Top Drog and Nando will get more of a look in now..
Hopefully we are going to consider a new striker that can link up with Nando to give us more flexibility in the formations we can use.. exciting times ahead
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Berbatov and Owen are available now :P ;D
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He's definitely leaving. He's released a statement saying he's going.
That could spell the beginning of the end for some of Chelsea's old guard. Refresh the ranks a little.
Nope, I don't think so. JT and Lamps are the only two regualras amongst the old guard, unless you consider Ashley Cole and Cech, but Cole is fit as a butchers dog and still has a few years left in him and keepers can go on longer at the top anyway.
As I said earlier, Drogba going will make it easier for the manager to adapt the style of play, while the others (the four mentioned above) are good enough to blend into a new system. In fact we will almost have no choice but to adapt our style of play without him. There aren't too many strikers who could replace him like for like. Lukaku is big and strong but still too raw. He may well be our plan B next season unless we loan him out.
Probably the right move for Didier. Going out on a high as a Chelsea legend, rather than potentially spend a lot of time warming the bench next season. Good luck to him wherever he goes. He has said it won;t be to another Premier League club as he wouldn't play for anyone but Chelsea.
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Probably the right move for Didier. Going out on a high as a Chelsea legend, rather than potentially spend a lot of time warming the bench next season. Good luck to him wherever he goes. He has said it won;t be to another Premier League club as he wouldn't play for anyone but Chelsea.
Spot on, even though I wish we still had him to terrorise the goon defence. :)
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Hmmm, the main bets are on him going to China to link up with Anelka for big money, but the U.S.A is another option, he's already well liked out there, but I'm wondering if, now Mourinho has signed a new 4 year deal with Real Madrid, Jose won't be tempted to try and tempt him to Spain to continue his battles with Barca.
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Citeh have let Hargreaves go unfortunately, really feel for the fellah. Would have been the best midfielder this country has seen in years if he could stay fit for more than 5 minutes. He even offered to play for nothing before we let him go :'(
8 appearances in 4 years I think :-\ :(
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Hmmm, the main bets are on him going to China to link up with Anelka for big money, but the U.S.A is another option, he's already well liked out there, but I'm wondering if, now Mourinho has signed a new 4 year deal with Real Madrid, Jose won't be tempted to try and tempt him to Spain to continue his battles with Barca.
Cant see him at Real, even though he would probably love to play for Jose again, but it might mean him facing Chelsea and I don't think he wants to do that, reading his statement.
China seems the obvious place he will end up even though, it appears Anelka may have lost his job in China if the papers are too be believed.
I saw Didier's first game at Stamford Bridge, a testimonial for Gianfranco and he was immense and made a great impression, mind you so did Kezman... :) I love him to bits but I just wish he had cut down on the diving/play acting, it besmirched an otherwise great time at Chelsea.
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It will be interesting to see if the Anelka situation affects his decision to go to China. I think America would be great for him, better than China. They'd love him over there and he'd potentially be as big as Beckham. Although the Chinese will pay him more, I think his long term gains could be much greater from America.
He was named as one of Times magazine's 100 most influential people for his work in the Ivory Coast, particularly in helping bring peace to the country, so he's already made an impression off the field.
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I understand what you are saying about the States, and can't disagree... as far as the Ivory Coast goes, it wouldn't surprise me if he ended up in a very high position in Government, if not the President.
I saw a documentary of the work he's doing with his Hospital, it was immense and simply EVERYONE in the Country loves him.
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There's a couple of interviews with him on Chelsea TV (and you tube) saying goodbye and thanks to the fans and also about him breaking the news to the other players. Genuine guy and he's really quite humble.
The goals, the theatrics and drama, his power, pace and ability. Apart from being one of the best strikers in the world over the past 8 years, love him or hate him, he has been pure entertainment.
Top bloke.
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Exactly,
as a footballer supreme, as a man even better.
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This is a great interview with Didier (about 16 minutes long mind you).
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18164138
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You're all living in Cloud Cuckoo Land if you think that Drogba is going to be anywhere near as popular in the States as Beckham. Beckham is a worldwide icon, Drogba isn't anywhere close despite how nice a bloke he is and the work he does for charity. What on earth are you thinking..?!!?!? :o :-\ :o
Have never heard anything so ridiculous in my life.
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You're all living in Cloud Cuckoo Land if you think that Drogba is going to be anywhere near as popular in the States as Beckham. Beckham is a worldwide icon, Drogba isn't anywhere close despite how nice a bloke he is and the work he does for charity. What on earth are you thinking..?!!?!? :o :-\ :o
Have never heard anything so ridiculous in my life.
I have.
"City aren't ready to win the title" - Harv 2012
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lol.. you left yourself open for that one harv!
Beckhams a different kettle of fish harv.. he's english for a start.. drogba for me though, he's as good as the other foreign superstars such as Henry, Bergkamp, Cantona etc... so IMO he can be as successful as all of them (if not more).
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Bergkamp, perhaps, but Drogba isn't anywhere near as big a name as Terry Henry and King Eric.
Beckham, Terry Henry and Eric The King are icons, Drogba isn't. Commercially he has nowhere near as much value as the others.
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Drogba is respected in America for his off-field activities, not just his football. Has Beckham ever been named in Times Magazine's list of the 100 most influential people? We're not just talking about the pop culture surrounding Beckham (and his annoying Missus).
Seriously, Drogba would quickly become a superstar in the US.
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You're all living in Cloud Cuckoo Land if you think that Drogba is going to be anywhere near as popular in the States as Beckham. Beckham is a worldwide icon, Drogba isn't anywhere close despite how nice a bloke he is and the work he does for charity. What on earth are you thinking..?!!?!? :o :-\ :o
Have never heard anything so ridiculous in my life.
Tell that to the Continent of Africa.
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You're all living in Cloud Cuckoo Land if you think that Drogba is going to be anywhere near as popular in the States as Beckham. Beckham is a worldwide icon, Drogba isn't anywhere close despite how nice a bloke he is and the work he does for charity. What on earth are you thinking..?!!?!? :o :-\ :o
Have never heard anything so ridiculous in my life.
You obviously don't realise that Africa is double the size in population than North America...........
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Interesting that Drogba was honoured by being one of the Olympic torchbearers today for his work in local communities in London and in Africa.
Josh McEachran has also been given the same honour for the amount of charity work he does, a surprising amount in fact, not bad for a 19 year old. It's a shame more footballers don't get recognition for the good they do off the pitch because the tabloid press are too keen to print gossip stories.
It will be good to see McEachran back at the Bridge next season and hopefully given a chance.
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You're all living in Cloud Cuckoo Land if you think that Drogba is going to be anywhere near as popular in the States as Beckham. Beckham is a worldwide icon, Drogba isn't anywhere close despite how nice a bloke he is and the work he does for charity. What on earth are you thinking..?!!?!? :o :-\ :o
Have never heard anything so ridiculous in my life.
You obviously don't realise that Africa is double the size in population than North America...........
The size of the population is immaterial when you consider how poor that continent is in places. We're talking commercial value here and in particular we're discussing Drogba's commercial value playing for an MLS side. He won't be anywhere as big as Terry Henry, let alone Beckham. No chance.
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You're all living in Cloud Cuckoo Land if you think that Drogba is going to be anywhere near as popular in the States as Beckham. Beckham is a worldwide icon, Drogba isn't anywhere close despite how nice a bloke he is
You didn't mention anything about commercial issues Harv, you were talking about worldwide popularity. In Africa and a number of other places Drogba is more highly thought of than Beckham. Also when discussing the fact that Beckham is an "icon", Didier Drogba is an icon. Beckham is as much a caricature as an icon in many respects. Beckham's iconic status is mostly in the states and the far East (due to his Man Utd connections). Drogba is known worldwide for his football, his charity work, his work with the UN and his work with the Trusth and Reconcilliation Council in the Ivory Coast. He is most definitely an iconic figure. Going to America (which may not happen, it's just me saying it would be a better move for him) would raise his profile in America where he has already appeared on the cover of Vanity Fair magazine (with Ronaldo) and been named as a world influntial figure by Times magazine. So two well respected and high circulation magazines in America have already seen fit to feature him prominently. That's without playing in America.
Beckham's status in America wasn't as high before he went there and a lot of his fame in America has to do with the fact that his wife was in the Spice Girls and he was known as much for that as for his football by a huge chunk of the US population initially.
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Sticking to the topic...
Looks like Kalou and Bosingwa are going to get the axe from Chelsea today... I've never been so happy about letting a player go before.. but 2 in one go.. great news.. just Malouda to get rid of now..
(provided we get adequate replacements for their positions of course)
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Amen to that!
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Looks like Hazard is on his way to Chelsea.. will find out for sure later, but rumours are he has chosen us over united...
...would we of been able to tempt him if we werent european champions ?? He might be a bit of a mercenary, but he'll be a fantastic signing for whoever gets him.
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More speculation based on social media. He has said he has made a decision, not where he's going. The press has then picked up on a tweet from Lois Saha who has said "evidently it's Chelsea".
So I'll believe it when it happens and not before. Though I'd imagine the fact we have three of his fellow Belgian internationals on his books helps, although he has also said it will depend on the amount of playing time and where he'll play. So if he has chosen us, bearing in mind it is not the Chelsea manager signing him, the new manager looks like he's going to have another player that he has to pick. ::)
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Please say your kidding.. we get rid of Kalou.. who is more than likely going to Arsenal LOL.. and replace him with Hazard... who IMO is in the same boat as Messi and Ronaldo but just a bit younger.. and your still a bit unsure.. weird... who else would you prefer to see on the wings then ???
its been rumoured to be us elsewhere.. not just the louis saha tweet BTW and had odds of 1/6 for us this afternoon too... if his quote about having the number 10 shirt is true as well.. I cant see Rooney giving it up for united... although saying that it might put Matas nose out of joint slightly seeing as he specifically asked Beneyoun to give him the number 10 shirt..
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This is a good article about Hazard, and the part about his weaknesses and the fact he is a bit of a mercenary is worrying.
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/sport/football/eden-hazard-what-makes-the-chelsea-and-arsenal-target-tick-7793344.html
Only a couple of goals in his last few internationals. Then there's the part about him not being willing to track back. Not a player who would have helped us win a backs to the wall game. Playing for a team in a weak league where a team with a transfer budget of £1.6 million wins it is a hell of a lot different from playing against top defenders in the Premier League week after week. So it's a question of whethr his attacking prowess when faced with top quality defenders would make up for those defensive inadequacies.
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Please say your kidding.. we get rid of Kalou.. who is more than likely going to Arsenal LOL.. and replace him with Hazard... who IMO is in the same boat as Messi and Ronaldo but just a bit younger.. and your still a bit unsure.. weird... who else would you prefer to see on the wings then ???
I'm just saying it's a risk with the amount we are reportedly paying for him and the kind of wages he is asking for, especially as he is unproven playing against top quality week in week out.
.. I cant see Rooney giving it up for united... although saying that it might put Matas nose out of joint slightly seeing as he specifically asked Beneyoun to give him the number 10 shirt..
I think if Mata has to give up the number 10 shirt for Hazard, it will be a dreadful decision. Even if he has been asled and does so willingly it is still a slap in the face for a player who was one of our best last season. It is potential disharmony in the changing room and already puts Hazard on a pedestal he hasn't earned yet.
This is all before we have announced who our manager will be, so the new manager has had no say in any of this. That is what I dislike about everything that is going on at the moment. More of the board running the team and then bringing in a manager and telling him "that's what you've got, get on with it". Ridiculous.
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Rumours are we are still after Hulk from Porto as well. So if Hazrd does sign it is likley to be Hazard on the left, Torres down the middle and Hulk on the right as our first choice front three next season.
What happens in the midfield then is a question. Where does it leave Mata? Playing as an attacking midfielder with Lamps and Ramires as the two deep midfielders. Would that gives us the defensive stability in front of the back four? Or would it mean Ramires or Lamps being left out and playing Romeu, Mikel or Essien in a more defensive role?
If we sign a new right back, which we need to do, I'd imagine Ivanovic will then feel threatened. He is already being courted by Real Madrid. He would feel very unsure of getting in at right back ahead of a top quality international if we buy one. He would also have a battle to displace Cahill or Luiz at centre back alongside JT as well.
The new manager is going to have a headache, that's for sure. Though I'm sure they would prefer that kind of headache to the kind that the likes of Wigan face every season.
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I wouldn't be too keen on us signing Hazard tbh, he's overrated imo. :-\
Plus we've got wide players coming out of our ears. I'd rather have Young, Parkie, Nani or Valencia out wide than Hazard. And three out of those four are comfortable playing on either flank as well.
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Hazard has a goal to game ratio of 1 in 5 (there abouts).....For a left winger playing in the french league, you can't help but feel theres a lot of hot air being blown about his prospects....
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Exactly. I'm worried about another expensive flop. I;d rather have a proven player (though for the life of me I can't think who is available we'd get).
Cech has signed a new 4 year deal.
Torres has also pledged his future to Chelsea, apparently after speaking directly to Abramovich.
So if we sign Hazard, who has sought assurances about playing, when you factor in the fact Roman has probably told Tirres he will be playing every week, our new manager is going to have an easy job. After all. they only have to pick 9 players instead of 11 every week. ::)
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Didnt he get like 20 goals and 15 odd assists this season though and player of the season for 2 consecutive seasons...he's only 21.. you gotta be a bit stupid if you think its all hot air Im afraid... whoever gets him will have a great asset...
...if its us, then mata and hazard on the wings drags.. dont need hulk, not with sturridge and malouda as backup for both wings..
...we basically want to get to the point where we have 2 good players for each position.. we need another right back agreed, another midfielder and another striker...
...but great news about Cech.. happy about that... people sometimes forget what a strong player and person Cech is.. I did a little when he had a wobble at the start of last season.. but he's quality through and through.. should never of doubted him.
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Oh nose which of our world class players shall we use today. Woe is me. - Chelsea fan problems ;)
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...we basically want to get to the point where we have 2 good players for each position.. we need another right back agreed, another midfielder and another striker...
Agree we need another midfielder, but we have bought Marin, who can play on the wing as well. I've heard rumours we are going to give Malouda another contract - I hope not.
Van Der Wiel has been spoken about as a right back and we are supposed to be close to signing him for £7 or 8 million, whichh wouldn't be bad business.
As for a striker, you say we don't need Hulk but we need another striker. Hulk can play as both a central striker and a wide player. The fact he can play wide will probably upset Torres less. He's a powerful player who might do well in the Premier League though. Quick and tracks back.
I'd be surprised if Hulk signed for us as he spoke very highly of AVB. I'd have thought Falcao would be a better striker, but more likely to occupy the same position as Torres. Don't want Cavani, who is another name spoken about.
With the players we are talking about it definitely looks like we are going to try and build a forward line that can get the ball to Torres as a central striker. We need options for if Torres still doesn't become a prolific striker again.
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Back to the Hazard story.
Latest according to the Sun is that he is definitely joining Chelsea. He has supposedly tweeted tonight that he is joining the Champions League winners.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4343176/Eden-Hazard-to-join-Chelsea.html
It looks like he's going to be wearing the number 10 too:
This is a link he posted himself on his Twitter feed
http://twitter.com/#!/eden_hazard
http://twitter.com/#!/hazardeden10
http://yfrog.com/kjongup
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i heard the hazard deal has fallen through - his head wouldn't fit through the doors at stamford bridge lol
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Unforunately Salomon Kalou doesn't appear to be going to Arsneal :( , instead reports suggest he will sign for Schalke.
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apparently hazard won't play for Chelski until January - he has yet to announce which airline he will fly with but will tweet the decision soon
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by the way Chelski fans - £6 million for hazards agent? bwahahaha
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If your getting one of the hottest prospects in world football.. who cares what the agent is getting... ;D
If you compare him to Joe Cole who also played for Lille this season.. (and by all accounts has had a bit of a rejuvenation season there).. hazard absolutely beasts him in terms of goals and assists, plus the fact he's also 9 years younger and will have way more pace than Coley does..
And Cole himself is still on 130k per week..
And if the french league is nothing to go by in terms of quality.. then I guess we got lucky with our 24 million purchase of Drogba hey!
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Chelski and citeh are killing football.
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I expect Hazard to do very well in England. He's a little magician on the ball. I can see why now why no one's bought him until now... he's been a massive talent for 2-3 seasons but he's now at the point where he's too good for Lille.
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by the way Chelski fans - £6 million for hazards agent? bwahahaha
You're only jealous because Arsene won't pay that much for a player. :P
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Chelski and citeh are killing football.
Because Barca and Real Madrid (and even Man Utd) don't pay mega money for players either eh!
As for killing football, Chelsea and then Man City have made the league more competetive, with all of the top four or five capable of taking points off each other.
If not for those two clubs it would be total Man Utd domination at the moment. Arsenal fans are more upset than most because they are the worst affected because of their spendthrift club and would have preferred it if the title was between Man Utd and Arsenal every season and the Premier LEague was less competetive, as for most of the early history of the Premier League (with the exception of the one season Blackburn won it).
Don't get me wrong, I admire Arsenal in many ways but the fact that the likes of Birmingham and Portsmouth have won trophies in the time since Arsenal won one shows how Arsenal have fallen behind.
I'm not a fan of the huge transfer fees we pay. I was annoyed when we paid £50 million for Torres, which I thought was ridiculous. We had started to move away from that, which would have done us good in the long run. he Torres signing signalled to clubs and agents that we were willing to be blackmailed over transfers. City's emergence and the failure of our board to allow a manager to properly rebuild the team has lead to the necessity for us to take drastic action to rebuild now. At least we have invested in quite a few decent young players who, hopefully, will reduce the necessity to spend millions upon millions every season, with just the odd tweak here or there and only two or three players needing replacing.
Fortunately the CL win, increased merchandising and the guaranteed income from reaching the CL next season should pay for the bulk of this summer's transfers.
One thing the club aren't going to be able to do under the fair play rules is waste £16 or so million a season on the sacking of managers, when that money should be invested in the team.
Mouinho, Grant, Scolari, Ancelotti and AVB probably account for at least £60 million lost over the past few years. Money that Man Utd and Arsenal by having stability in their management structure have saved.
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Apparently Liverpool are in the running for Krasic along with Reading!
Gotta admire the ambition, eh Chris. ;D
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Well depends on what Krasic wants, money or a chance of winning trophies ...
... hmmm, it may well be a close call there with Reading now taken over by a rich owner. :P
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Apparently he doesn't fancy a move to Reading but Liverpool want to take him on loan and Juve want to sell not loan. I doubt we would disrupt the wage structure by giving someone stupid wages. Our too Warner would probably be Roberts or Kebe on anywhere between £15-20K a week. Although I bet they'll all be queuing up outside Anton's office asking for a new deal now.
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Not exactly a transfer rumour but Abramovich still reportedly keen on Guardiola as manager and Chelsea are reportedly willing to offer him £11 million a year.
Apart from the fact that I think it will be a mistake of Scolari and AVB proportions, that means on a 4 year contract, when we sack him after a year or less, it will cost the club near on £30 million, plus whatever it takes to get rid of any other coaches he brings in.
If I was RDM I'd have already told the club to poke it and been looking at offers elsewhere, he won't be short on them. The fact Chelsea have not offered RDM the job already is enough evidence that he isn't their first choice and the board are already signing players the next manag .. erm I mean coach will have to work with.
No way to run a football club in a sustainable manner.
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Robert Snodgrass from Leeds is a summer target for us, Lambert tried to get him last season.
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I'd expect Snodgrass to go If I'm honest. He's an outstanding player for the Championship, and him and Lambert will have a good understanding from when he played at Livingston. Also we've put a new contract on the table for his and he's gonna bide his time, to see what players we bring in. Bates promised new faces and money in the transfer kitty for a proper push for promotion this season...but he also said that last season and it never happened...
However should we get new owners it can all change. Although apprently we want £8M for Snodgrass, thats the only issue I can see...
If he goes though, you can't exactly blame him...
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Although apprently we want £8M for Snodgrass, thats the only issue I can see...
I cant see us paying £8m plus he's only got a year left on his contract.
Is it another Leeds midfilder on his way?
Does Ken Bates do buy 2 and get one free offers?
Howson, Snodgrass and Johnson thrown in for free ;)
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Rumours abound that we have bid for an Ex player. The only ex players I'd take back are Shane Long, The Sig or Ryan Bertrand. I could see it being Bertrand as we need a left back as Ian Harte won't last for ever...although he's giving it a good go.
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He's just played in the final of the champions league and gave a half decent display... why on earth would he want to join Reading and why would we let him go when we only have 1 other recognised left back ?? Cant see it happening.. Bertrands a keeper, it might be a loan deal so he gets 1st team football, but even then I'd be suprised, he's good cover for us.
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RDM seems to be the only manager who has given him a go. So if he doesn't become your manager then Bertrand won't hang around not playing.
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I'd expect Snodgrass to go If I'm honest. He's an outstanding player for the Championship, and him and Lambert will have a good understanding from when he played at Livingston. Also we've put a new contract on the table for his and he's gonna bide his time, to see what players we bring in. Bates promised new faces and money in the transfer kitty for a proper push for promotion this season...but he also said that last season and it never happened...
However should we get new owners it can all change. Although apprently we want £8M for Snodgrass, thats the only issue I can see...
If he goes though, you can't exactly blame him...
Lambert is the only real clear favourite for the Villa job though now ;)
Matter of time :)
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RDM seems to be the only manager who has given him a go. So if he doesn't become your manager then Bertrand won't hang around not playing.
What JMAN said (but with better punctuation lol). :P
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I wonder which of the Chelsea youngsters Brendan Rodgers will try to take to Liverpool. Not to mention which of his Swansea players.
It will be interesting to see how well he does there.
It will also be interesting to see what happens to Swansea now. I suspect bookies may have them down for the drop next season.
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Paul Lambert has reportedly quit as manager of Norwich as he was refused permission to talk to Aston Villa..
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Yup, told you Larry.......
We'll take Grant Holt too ;D
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Cheers Liverpool for taking Rodgers from Swansea. It's caused the Gylfi deal to fall through now Reading have put in a bid. Also rumoured to have made a move to sign Defoe on loan. If true that's a big deal.
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A deal has reportedly been done for 38 million for Hulk :o
The fact he's called Hulk justifies that price tag I think ;D
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Although apprently we want £8M for Snodgrass, thats the only issue I can see...
I cant see us paying £8m plus he's only got a year left on his contract.
Is it another Leeds midfilder on his way?
Does Ken Bates do buy 2 and get one free offers?
Howson, Snodgrass and Johnson thrown in for free ;)
Yes its another Leeds Midfielder, he's the best one by a mile too, I don't think he'd have a problem in the premiership.
Do you think Ken Bates does buy 2 get one free offers ;D
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I'd expect Snodgrass to go If I'm honest. He's an outstanding player for the Championship, and him and Lambert will have a good understanding from when he played at Livingston. Also we've put a new contract on the table for his and he's gonna bide his time, to see what players we bring in. Bates promised new faces and money in the transfer kitty for a proper push for promotion this season...but he also said that last season and it never happened...
However should we get new owners it can all change. Although apprently we want £8M for Snodgrass, thats the only issue I can see...
If he goes though, you can't exactly blame him...
Lambert is the only real clear favourite for the Villa job though now ;)
Matter of time :)
Good, I can't see Villa needing Snodgrass, so I'd hope it'll end his intrest haha
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A deal has reportedly been done for 38 million for Hulk :o
The fact he's called Hulk justifies that price tag I think ;D
Reading are after a defensive midfielder his name is Carlos Sanchez. His nickname is The Rock. If you're going to buy a DM you want him to be nicknamed the rock.
If you sign him what's the betting we see a load of Chelsea fans with green faces wearing their Hulk shirts.
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If you sign him what's the betting we see a load of Chelsea fans with green faces wearing their Hulk shirts.
We'll just borrow the Man Utd supporter's Shrek paint.
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No news on Pogba going yet, thought the deal was pretty much done and dusted a week or so ago. I'm still hoping that we'll keep him, Pogba and Cleverley in the middle of the park in the not too distant future have the potential to be every bit as effective as Keano and Scholesie if all the hype about Pogba is to be believed. :o I'll be very disappointed if we let him go tbh. >:(
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Saw somewhere an interesting comparison on Chelsea's purcahse of Marin, Hazard and Hulk for £8 million, £32 million and £38 million respectively. Those three together, if the transfers go ahead, would have only cost £2 million (or thereabouts) more than Carroll, Downing and Henderson.
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Saw somewhere an interesting comparison on Chelsea's purcahse of Marin, Hazard and Hulk for £8 million, £32 million and £38 million respectively. Those three together, if the transfers go ahead, would have only cost £2 million (or thereabouts) more than Carroll, Downing and Henderson.
Are you trying to imply that Chelsea have got a better deal? Bit of a sweeping statement given the fact we have no idea how well Marin, Hazard and Hulk will adapt to the Prem. If there's one club that can kill a good players prospects, it's Chelsea, as we've seen numerous times before....(Shevchenko, Glen Johnson, Mutu, Deco, Veron, SWP....Shall I mention Torres too? Or will Jman explode with disbelief?)
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Of course they've got a better deal. Even if they don't adapt too well to the Premiership it's highly unlikely that they'll be as bad as those three muppets lol. I'm still pretty gobsmacked that Woy has chosen a striker that's only scored, what, 9 goals in 28 starts and 18 substitute appearances at club level. Unbelievable lol. You really couldn't make it up!!! ::)
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If there's one club that can kill a good players prospects, it's Chelsea, as we've seen numerous times before....(Shevchenko, Glen Johnson, Mutu, Deco, Veron, SWP....Shall I mention Torres too? Or will Jman explode with disbelief?)
Seriously, you're blaming Chelsea for Shevchenko who by his own admission was never fully fit in his first season and had lost a lot of pace because of his injuries. His career was already on the downward slope. We were mugged at £30 million for him by A C Milan, a purchase made by the owner, whose wife at the time was a friend of Shevchenko's wife, not the manager (Mourinho). He was a young player at the start of his career when we got him, wasn't he, having been born in September 1976 and joining us in 2006. So I'm not quite sure how we ruined his prospects.
Veron? Are you serious? How is it we runined him and not Man Utd who paid twice what we did for him and then saw him flop. We got a bit mugged by him in the hope he could show some of his ability, unfortunately he still flopped. So again, how was it Chelsea who ruined his prospects?
Deco? He was hardly at the start of his career when we bought him and was a bit part player at Barca by then. He was in his 30's when we got him (born in 1977, we bought him in 2008). He actually had a reasonably good season and started his second season well too, but his second season was blighted by injuries. He had two long periods out of the game during the season. Chelsea didn't make him injury prone, he was injury prone throughout his career. You should remember one of his goals Ross, it came in a 7-1 victory over Villa, pretty good goal too from what I recall.He was fantastic in that game. He wanted to leave and return to Brazil for personal reasons. We gave him a free transfer to Fluminase. He won the title there in his first season in 2010. Yeah we trashed his prospects didn't we eh!
We really ruined Glen Johnson's prospects didn't we. He's at one of the top sides in the World still and an established international. I can think of quite a few players who would really hate to have had their prospects ruined to that extent. ::) The fact is, Johnson had defensive weaknesses and Mourinho wanted a solid defence. He played well enough for us though. Surely if he was that fantastic, by now one of the top 4 English clubs or one of the top European sides would have at least made a bid for him.
Shaun Wright-Phillips. Never lived up to his promise. 90% of the time picks the wrong option. Played a lot of games at Chelsea. Won trophies and medals at Chelsea. Then went to Man City, who did exactly what we did and bombed him out of the club again when they got rich because he was not top quality to begin with, or are you in the minority of England fans who want to see him in the England side still. We did not ruin his prospects at all. ::)
Torres. Well let's see. An F.A Cup winners medal and a Champions League medal in his first full season. Goal tally was in double figures by the end of the season and is going to be given the chance to be the top striker at the club next season having shown glimpses of a return to form at the end of the season. Yeah, we've ruined his prospects.
Now the final one on that list. Mutu. After a good start at Chelsea where he was playing well and looked good, then his form dipped. We obviously took him to a dealer and forced him to snort coke and get himself a long ban from football because we wanted to blow (no pun intended) the £15 million we paid for him. How on Earth can you say Chelsea ruined his prospects. I'm pretty certain he did that all by himself and the responsibility for becoming a coke head is down to him.
Your capacity to spout utter crap never ceases to amaze me Ross.
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Look at the prices you've payed for all those players...They were all flops because your club obviously saw potential in them, regardless of their age. Why else would you pay such huge sums of money for these players?
Also had to laugh to at the fact you're saying Deco moving from the Premier League to winning a Brazilian title is some sort of achievement.....If anything it backs my argument that he wasn't cut out for this league, and you let a £10M player walk out for free.
I deliberately listed players that cost you alot of money....You don't just pay £10-20M plus for players on a whim, unless you're willing to admit Chelsea are just horribly careless with their money....?
The main point is, all these players were never as good AFTER Chelsea ditched them....They could have been good players, but ultimately it hasn't walked out. Glenn Johnson is hardly established, btw, the only reason he'll get a look in with England is because of Roys obvious love in with Liverpool players. If it was any other manager, you'd be seeing alot more of Walker/Richards.
I actually think Torres will come good in the end, but he isn't gonna justify £50M, thats just insane.
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So basically, you are proven wrong yet again, so turn to your tried and tested tactic of competely changing the premise of your argument. From chelsea having ruined these players prospects, instead we are to blame for their decline after leaving the club and for them not becoming better players.
Even with your change in tactic you still present an ill thought out, poorly researched and frankly ridiculous argument.
Look at the prices you've payed for all those players...They were all flops because your club obviously saw potential in them, regardless of their age. Why else would you pay such huge sums of money for these players?
Does any club buy a player unless they see potential in them or think they will offer something to the team? Blimey, who;d have thought it was just Chelsea who did that. Aston Villa would never sign a duff player would they, *cough* Bosko *cough* Balaban, only a bit cheaper than our so called flop Glen Johnson but bought way before transfer prices became so elevated. Every club has successes and failures in the transfer market, some are just more high profile.
Doesn't mean we runined their future prospects or stopped them becoming better players though.
Also had to laugh to at the fact you're saying Deco moving from the Premier League to winning a Brazilian title is some sort of achievement.....If anything it backs my argument that he wasn't cut out for this league, and you let a £10M player walk out for free.
As I pointed out, he was coming to the latter part of his career. He got the move HE wanted. After two more years he was no longer worth the £8 million (not £10 million) we paid for him from Barca. (as usual Ross checks his facts). As I also pointed out, he actually played quite well for us. Injuries were his problem. It's great when players who aren't cut out for the Premier League make a pretty good contribution to a Premier League title, won with a record number of goals scored.
If injuries mean he wasn't cut out for the Premier League, most of your team better toddle off somewhere else as you've been keen to bleat on about Villa's injury problems this season.
I deliberately listed players that cost you alot of money....You don't just pay £10-20M plus for players on a whim, unless you're willing to admit Chelsea are just horribly careless with their money....?
First off, a third of the players you listed cost under £10 million. Mutu £15.8 million, Veron £15 million (just over half what Utd paid for him). Chelsea were careless with money. I've bemoaned some of our transfers on this forum many times, but we were also paying over the odds for some players simply because the price went up as soon as Chelsea's name became involved.
You also conveniently ignore the players Chelsea bought that were a success, not all of whom cost a lot of money. Swings and roundabouts, some you win, some you lose. It happens at every club, it's only the scales of economy that are different.
The main point is, all these players were never as good AFTER Chelsea ditched them....They could have been good players, but ultimately it hasn't walked out. Glenn Johnson is hardly established, btw, the only reason he'll get a look in with England is because of Roys obvious love in with Liverpool players. If it was any other manager, you'd be seeing alot more of Walker/Richards.
Another completely flawed argument, totally ignoring my reply to your preposterous first post on this subject. We did not ruin those players prospects. Also, never as good after Chelsea ditched them. Believe it or not Ross, some players reach a point where they do start to decline. Shevchenko was one of those, not in the best shape when we bought him and already past his best. Deco was also past his prime. Were they going to miraculously find a fountain of youth, rejuventate themselves and recapture former glories after leaving Chelsea? ::). Some suffer inuries and never regain their form after. I suppose Chelsea will be to blame for Essien's injuries, sustained on international duty, that have lead to his decline. Of course if not for Chelsea he would still go on to be a better player even with dodgy knees.
As for They could have become better playes but ultimately it hasn't worked out. Some reach a peak early and never improve further (Wright-phillips). Still a good player but was NEVER going to get any better. Man City found that out and moved him on. Already dealt with Shevchenko and Deco and their failure to find some magic elixir to allow them to become better players as they advanced in the twilight of their careers after leaving Chelsea.
Glen Johnson. Still a good player. He has improved since leaving Chelsea, not declined. He is the established Liverpool right back and an established member of the England squad and currently the chosen right back. Of course you know better than the England manager, so we'd better replace Roy quickly and send you to manage England in his place.
Veron. Could have been a better player if not for Chelsea eh. Bloody hell, it was all down to Chelsea that he didn't improve after leaving us. He was supposed to be the finished product when Utd bought him and he flopped, let alone when we bought him. Utd would certainly have hoped for the finished article after they paid £28 million for him. If we ruined him and his prospects, Utd started it.
Mutu. Hmm could have been a good player. Yes indeed, if he wasn't a coke snorting junkie. Still not Chelsea's fault. You do realise he also received a 9 month ban after failing a drugs test at Fiorentina. Chelsea also won a breach of contract case against him after which he was supposed to have repad the bulk of his transfer fee.
Some just don't fit in with a new manager's plans. Sometimes the club moves forward and wants better quality players. So some they have signed who have reached the limits of their potential or can be replaced by better are going to move on.
IT HAPPENS at EVERY CLUB.
Moving on from some clubs isn't always an upwards step. There are only so many top clubs in top leagues. As players decline or if they fail to improve, they move on to other things. It's not the club they leave whose fault it is that they don't improve. Surely the club they move to would still be able to improve the player if they had the quality, as has happened with many players.
Not every player can be a Christiano Ronaldo and move from a Man Utd to a Real Madrid. For every Ronaldo there are many players who do a John O'Shea and move to a Sunderland.
Some players may be late bloomers and do improve. Some give the perception of improving because they are big fishes in a little pool. That works in reverse when a player has looked good at a smaller club, but when they move to a bigger club, they just don't cut it. When a hefty transfer fee has been paid, it's more noticeable.
I actually think Torres will come good in the end, but he isn't gonna justify £50M, thats just insane.
When exactly have I ever said that the £50 million we paid for Torres was anything other than stupid? Never, that's when. I was against it from the start and still think it was stupid. So your point there is what exactly? The Andy Carroll transfer fee was equally as ridiculous. I thought the Shevchenko fee was ridiculous, I will think the Hazard fee and the fee for Hulk, if they are accurate are ridiculous.
I might disagree with these valuations and transfer fees but what matters is the perception of the purchaser. Judging the worth of these purchases if they come good and help us win trophies will be down to the person who put up the money to decide if they are happy with the return on their investment.
I'll wait for your next change in tactic and ill informed argument Ross, which will no doubt still ignore the majority of the points that refute your ridiculous claims.
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Blimey, you hinted that it may be a better deal than what Liverpoolpaid for Carroll, Downing and Henderson and I just said you might be jumping to conclusions, just outlining a few examples of players with high price tags that never worked out.
Hulk will be 26 in july....Not exactly young....Yet Chelsea seem to be quite excited about £38M and HIS prospects for them....Enough so to pay £38M anyway.
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Blimey, you hinted that it may be a better deal than what Liverpoolpaid for Carroll, Downing and Henderson and I just said you might be jumping to conclusions, just outlining a few examples of players with high price tags that never worked out.
You just said I might be jumping to conclusions and pointed out a few players who didn't work out?
Ballcocks. More back tracking and attempts to re-invent your first post.
What you first said we ruined those player's prospects. Which was quite obviously rubbish.
Then after that argument was countered you effectively said we ruined the players themselves because they never improved after they left Chelsea. Which, again, was complete tosh.
That argument countered, you then come back with "you hinted it may be a better deal", another change of tactic to deflect your ridiculous claims, second guessing the meaning of my post, which in fairness was left open to interpretation.
Hulk will be 26 in july....Not exactly young....Yet Chelsea seem to be quite excited about £38M and HIS prospects for them....Enough so to pay £38M anyway.
As I've said. I don't agree with the transfer fees.
But was Andy Carrol at, £35 million, with one half decent season behind him and no Premier League pedigree someting to get excited about? £20 million for Downing (or whatever the cost was). Similar for Henderson.
I've not said I'm excited about Hulk's signing either. In fact I have not seen a lot of him but have not been overly impressed when I have. I have expressed concerns over the Hazard signing as well. If we're talking about Chelsea as a whole, well it comes down to who is spending the cash. We have Roman and his pet (Emmanolo) seemingly making decisions on player purchases, not the manager of the team. Which I have continually said is ridiculous. It's proven by the fact negotiations for these players are being conducted while we don't even have a manager appointed.
It's interesting that all of the players you listed originally were signed either side of Mourinho's time at Chelsea, with the exception of SWP and Shevchenko, and we know Mourinho didn't want Shevchenko. It was the Ballack and Shevchenko signings that started the end of Jose's time at the club because that's when the owner started interfering, as well as bringing in his first pet Avram Grant. Scolari was the only manager since Mourinho given some leeway to bring in his own players. Deco and Bosingwa, two of his Portuguese national side, came in while he was there. Scolari, rather than the players, was a total disaster.
When you have a club buying players and then expecting a manager to make them fit into his team and how he wants them to play, you are likely to get a higher percentage of those players fail to provide the team with what was hoped from them, regardless of the price tag. That is the problem with Chelsea and it really gets my goat.
I wasn't saying we'd got the better deal with Marin, Hazard and Hulk (two of which have not even been confirmed by the club). Nowhere did I say that. My point was intended to be about the fact our transfer fees are highlighted in the press and often seized upon (as you did with your choice of players we supposedly ruined and made worse). Yet when put into perspective, we are not the only ones doing it.
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Drags,
it's totally pointless discussing with dross, he just ignores any valid points against him, then drones on and on, trying to justify his ineptitude.
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Hazard deal confrimed.
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Yup and expect hulk deal to be done in a week too, citing times!!
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Yup and expect hulk deal to be done in a week too, citing times!!
A new right back needed as well.
Just hope we give the manager's job to the right person (I'd still like to see RDM given the job, he earned it).
I have heard Joe Cole put in a good word for us and the fact we have a few other Belgian players on the books might have helped the Hazard situation. Si,ilarly with the HUlk situation, I'm sure Ramires and Luiz can have some influence there as well.
I still have my reservations about big money sognings like that, you can only hope they hit the ground running, like Mata, or at least show their worth fairly quickly, like Ramires after a slow start. At least they are joining in the summer so they can get a pre-season under their belt's.
We do now potentially have a lot more firepower, with Du Bruyne and Lukaku as well, though I suspect one or both might find themselves on loan next season. Drogba will still be a hard act to follow though.
I thought Lukaku did okay when he came on against England. They might have done better if they'd started with him. He was unlucky with the late offside call, which looked like he may have been just onside.
I hope the rumours about us putting in bids for Sagna and Walcott are just ridiculous press speculation. I doubt Walcott would want to swap the bench at Arsenal for the bench at Chelsea, though he does have some real pace, just lacks end product. Sagna is 29 and if we are looking for a decent right back I;d rather an experiences one between the 24 to 26 age range so they have a fair few years left in them.
No news on Benayoun either. Whether Arsenal will make his loan permanent or not. He must be ours again now the season is over. Still a useful squad player potentially. Also I wonder if Bruma's loan deal will become permanent. He isn't keen to come back. All round, on paper, our squad could look quite tasty next season. Best since the earl Mourinho days, Drogba apart.
Lots of specualtion ramping up around Spurs and bids for their star names, not to mention potential problems between Harry and Levy. Harry, with only a year left on his contract wanting another 3 years and Levy not seemingly happy to give it to him.
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Happy with the Kagawa signing as an alternative to Hazard Harv?
At reportedly £12 million, rising to £17 million with addons, he's obviously better rpiced and not much older. His goal scoring record is also pretty good in what is a stronger league than the French leage, so it might turn out to be a very good signing. It also helps keep Utd's legion of Asian fans happy and the Yen rolling in.
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Yup, happy with that. ;D
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drags, all season you talked of how your squad was ageing and how it would take a half dozen players to sort it out. So far i believe more players have left than arrived and yet now the squad is the best its looked in 6 or 7 years. Does not compute.
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Our biggest problem is that we have never adequately replaced Duff or Robben with wingers of anywhere near that quality. Hazrd, Marin and Hulk (if he signs) may be those players.
That's 3. We also have Du Bruyne coming in. That's 4. I've also said we possibly need another striker, possibly another midfield player and definitely a right back. That would be 7 new arrivals.
Bosingwa leaving isn't a loss. Neither really is Kalou. The only player who has left so far who will be a loss is Drogba.
Our all round attacking options have improved though.
Possibly Malouda and Essien may move on. If so I'd expect replacements to be brought in, though I think Essien might get another year to see if he can overcome the problems resulting from his knee injury.
Cole and Bertrand are good left back options. Our central defensive options I'm happy with, with JT, Cahill, Luiz and Ivanovic all able to play there.
Ivanovic will also be cover for the right back it is almost certain we will buy.
So the squad will have been freshened up and, on paper at least, better than it has been for the last three seasons.
Keepers
Petr Cech
Ross Turnbull
Henrique Hilario
Thibault Courtois (probably on loan again though with Cech signing a new contract)
Defenders
Branislav Ivanovic
Ashley Cole
David Luiz
Paulo Ferreira (could be sold but may be retained as a cover player for a number of positions as he seems happy with that, always useful)
Gary Cahill
John Terry
Sam Hutchinson
Ryan Bertrand
(plus a new right back).
Central and defensive midfield
Michael Essien
Oriol Romeu
Ramires
Frank Lampard
Mikel
Raul Meireles
Attacking MF/wingers/strikers
Marko Marin
Juan Mata
Eden Hazard
Kevin Du Bruyne
Hulk (if, as expected, we sign him)
Florent Malouda (may be sold)
Strikers
Fernando Torres
Romelu Lukaku (may go out on loan depending on other options)
Daniel Sturridge
Needed:
RB/CB (Van Der Wiel is a possibility)
CM or another DM
Powerful centre forward for plan B.
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We definately need another Right Back, and another Striker, but my main priority would be a back up Keeper, that will be up for the task if Cech gets injured.
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Fergie has officially confirmed a bid for Van Persil. Not worth more than £15m given the state of his contract and his injury record. After seeing Berbatov's performance the other evening I'd be quite happy for him to stay if he plays like that every week. First time I think I've seen him play in the hole, he looked like he was having a real blast. :o
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We already needed another striker, now we need two as Lukaku is going on a season long loan to Fulham.
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Arsenal transfer rumours:
Llorente, Ganso, M'Vila, Dempsey, Niang, Cazorla.
Also rumoured that walcott will sign a 3 year extension to his contract.
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We already needed another striker, now we need two as Lukaku is going on a season long loan to Fulham.
Thats a good thing, he's not going far (down the road).. and he'll get guarranteed 1st team football... we dont need another striker I dont think.. I think Torres and Sturridge should be the front two we go for this season, so we have to go with them... Sturridge will most definitely leave if he doesnt get any first team football this season and theres no chance of him playing on the wings with Mata and Hazard here now...
...if we are to get another striker, it needs to be an older player who is content with not playing week in week out.. would be nice to see a Cavani or Falcao type player arrive, but they would just upset the squad in terms of pushing another player out...
In other news, looks like we have signed Oscar.. he's agreed personal terms and had his medical.... Mata, Oscar, Ramires, Lampard and Hazard... has to be the best midfield on paper in the premiership now :D
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Looks like Rafael has been tapping up Lucas lol :P
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We already needed another striker, now we need two as Lukaku is going on a season long loan to Fulham.
we dont need another striker I dont think.. I think Torres and Sturridge should be the front two we go for this season, so we have to go with them...
You seriously don't think we need another striker? What if Torres is as good as he has been so far or Sturridge is as greedy as he always is? Our strikers struggled for the most part last season, if we only have two what happens if one of them gets injured, or both of them?
To challenge for the title we need 4 decent strikers, not two. It's all well and good having half a dozen attacking midfielders but if the balance of the squad is wrong we won't be competing for honours this season.
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Rumour is that we've signed cazorla. Brilliant if true.
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Joe Allen can leave Swansea for LFC due to 'Top 5 club' contract clause. We'll just assume they mean "Top 5 Clubs in Liverpool" shall we?
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More strong hints that Cavani could be the next through the door at the Bridge. Not sure about that. His scoring record in Italy is something like 56 in 86 games, but I've personally not been that impressed by him. He'd be a plan B type player, not sure if he;d be happy with that though.
Also rumours that we've increased our bid for Victor Moses.
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Sky Sports are reporting that United are 'close' to signing Lucas. A fee has been agreed with Sao Paulo and they've got the go ahead to talk to him, am hoping that Brazil get knocked out on Tuesday now lol :P
Still not a done deal though, depends on how greedy he is and whether he's happy to not necessarily be playing every week.
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Fergie's got no money
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Lol
Fergie's got no money
So much for Sky Sports and reliable news lol. They're now saying PSG have made a successful bid lololol
And Fergie has got plenty of money to spend, always has done and always will do. The decision at the end of the day is down to the player. If he's content to play for an comparatively inferior side like PSG instead of United then best of luck to him. But if he isn't interested in playing for them and wants to join United then Sao Paulo will accept a lower bid from us.
Fergie has said he's going to sign another one, perhaps two, players. Safe money would be on Van Persil and Lucas.
Four great signings if we can pull it off - Powell, Kagawa, Van Persil and Moura. Halfway there so far 8)
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Even though manyoo have macheda, i think overall we have the better squad at this stage. If RVP ends up at manyoo it will all be about money and we will happily take twenty million from the glazers for an injury prone 29 year old lol!!
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Even though manyoo have macheda, i think overall we have the better squad at this stage. If RVP ends up at manyoo it will all be about money and we will happily take twenty million from the glazers for an injury prone 29 year old lol!!
Funny how your tune has changed, all you gooners were in denial about him being a sicknote a year ago lol
I still think £20m is too much but I'd be quite happy to get him for £15m.
Who knows, he might even change his mind about leaving now that arse have finally shown a little ambition.
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Lol - funny how my tune has changed??? You derided him as injury prone for years and are now happy to give us fifteen million!!
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We are still in for Sahin.
Diaby hasn't broken down in pre season (yet) and wilshere is running on hard surfaces.
If RVP does leave, i hope he does it soon, our squad has work to be getting on with!!
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Lol - funny how my tune has changed??? You derided him as injury prone for years and are now happy to give us fifteen million!!
If you have a look at my previous posts you'll see that I've mentioned that signing him would be a risk. That's why no club in their right mind will match arse's ridiculous £30m asking price. ;)
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*waits patiently for slur Alex to get out his cheque book ;)
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I'd be quite happy us paying £15m, I said the same about Nasri before he went to Citeh. They paid over the odds for him imo. Fergie said he wanted to sign another 1 or 2 players so I reckon Van Persil and Moura are his targets. Out of the two I reckon Van Persil is the most likely, depends on how well Rafael is doing tapping up Moura with regards to the second potential signing. ;D :P
Faced with the options of playing for PSG or United he'd have to be mental to decide to play for the former rather than the latter. :-\ ???
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Slip off the red tinted glasses, have a look at what you just said, then go and have a word with yourself.
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Slip off the red tinted glasses, have a look at what you just said, then go and have a word with yourself.
What on earth are you blathering on about now..? The last paragraph..? :-\
PSG have won bugger all for 2 seasons, are always outsiders to win the Champions League. They've only won 17 trophies since they were founded in 1970. They may have spent a fair few quid recently but that doesn't necessarily mean that they'll have anywhere near as much success that United have had for the last 22 years. We're always among the favourites to win the Champions League and haven't gone more than one season since 1990 without winning a trophy. Even when we were in a 3 year transition period years ago we still won the FA Cup and League Cup lol. :o
Do you honestly disagree with that last paragraph..? I'd love to hear your reasoning behind that.
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The reasoning?
Manchester City.
Here endeth the lesson.
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Who mentioned Citeh..? I was talking about the player having the choice between United and PSG. Citeh haven't even put in a bid for him. ::)
Looks like Moura is set to sign for PSG. A daft decision in terms of ambition from the player. :-\
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You really don't have a clue do you?
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Again, what on earth are you blathering on about..? His choice of choosing PSG over United shows a clear lack of ambition on the player's part. PSG are a much smaller club with less chance of winning trophies despite their recent spending.
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You said the same thing about na$ri last summer. You really can't accept the wheel has turned. You can't seriously be impressed with the signings fergie has made are you?
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There's a huge difference between Citeh and PSG. ::)
And yes, I'm very pleased with our signings so far. Kagawa is a fantastic player and Powell is a future star. Citeh, Che£$ki and arse were all after him, that's why we nipped in early to get the deal sorted.
Any player wanting to join PSG over the likes of United, Citeh or Che£$ki has problems with personal ambition. Lol, even arse have got more chance of winning more than PSG and they've won bugger all for 7 years! He's not going to win bugger all at PSG at domestic level and doesn't have a hope in hell of getting anywhere near a Champions League winner's medal. It's a very odd decision.
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Bugger all difference between citeh and psg. Both will win their respective leagues this season, both have experienced Italian managers. Both are funded by gulf state oil billionaire families.
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There's a huge difference between Citeh and PSG. ::)
Yes, PSG play in a nice city.
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There's no such thing as a nice place in Froggy Land lol :P
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Have to totally disagree with you there.
Besides, if you've never been to the beaches in Cannes and all along the coast there. Phwooooar, trust me there are some great sights to see. Just don't take a girlfriend with you lol.
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The latest rumour is that arse have accepted a £22m bid from United for Van Persil. If that's true then we've paid £7m too much imo. There's also talk of Song on his way out too.
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Depends which outlet you read. Latest news is also that RVP is about to do a u turn and sign a new contract lol
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Bbc reckoned that van p€r$i€ (too much?) was prepared to stay but Wenger informed him on Sunday he was no longer in his plans.
Mirror is suggesting chiqarito could end up at the ems. That would be just brilliant Haha.
Llorente is an option but i don't see us spending the 28 million needed to trigger the release clause.
M'vila has been linked with us all summer, sahin is another we've been linked with.
With sagna out for a bit yet id like to see a rb come in but cocquelin has played there so he can cover if needed.
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Hasnt wenger already stated that there will be no new replacement for RVP ??
Arsenal to finish outside top 6.. you bet!! ;D
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To be fair they still have Chesney...but if he's out injured long term then they're d00med lol ;D
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Hasnt wenger already stated that there will be no new replacement for RVP ??
Arsenal to finish outside top 6.. you bet!! ;D
No replacement he said because he already has signed giroud.
Mind you he said he'd never heard of cazorla then signed him 48 hours later.
Wenger has NEVER announced transfers before they are done, you think he is going to start now? Lol, really??!!
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Arsenal have hijacked the sahin to Liverpool deal. We have to Monday to make him a gooner.
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Will be shocked if Barca get Song for the prices being spoken about.
If City got him in to play alongside Yaya they'd be formidable. He'd be an asset to any side in Europe.
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Song is gone. Heard he had a row with Wenger and walked out of training. Barca in pole position to sign, rumour is 12 million plus players.
We still have squillacci right?? Phew!
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The next series of an idiot abroad will be filmed exclusively in France and will star Joey Barton lol
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The star of an idiot abroad should, be your very own Arsene Wenger, 7 years and no trophies after being paid £8 million a season, as Jose said he's the only manager that can fail and keep his job.
Mind you the real idiots are the goon fans, who pay the highest prices to watch thier team and Wenger sells their 2 best players 24 hours before the season starts, just the same as last season.
Now Vermaelen's got the armband his agent will be touting him for a move next summer. 8)
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I was thinking the same thing myself about the next captain, but wasn't aware who had stepped in lol ;D
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Doesn't matter who leaves, The Arsenal will endure. One of the most successful British clubs in history we shall be winning trophies again soon.
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You've been saying that for 7 years so far :P
I'm surprised there aren't more gooners calling for Wenger's head tbh.
Chesney and Wilshere will be on their way out in another two or three years unless they win something. You're probably stuck with Walcott because he's crap and nobody else is going to want him, Oxymoron is a bit pants too imo, can't understand why so many pundits on the telly were fapping over his performances during Euro 2012...he looked average at best imo, although he does have time on his side I guess. :-\
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Same old record harv
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The truth hurts unfortunately ;)
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I'll refrain from telling you a few home truths as they would hurt too ;)
In any case, you've been tipping arsenal to get relegated every year for ten years and yet every year for The last 16 we've either won the league or finished in the top 4. That makes your predictions epic fails. Fails of such epic proportions you should crawl out of your council hole and get a job (heaven forbid) as a weather!
During the period Im talking about we have won league titles, fa cups, been to the champs league final, been to the calling cup final and had plenty of high points. Birmingham won the cc but are stuck in the championship, you think they're fans wouldn't swap their "success" for our failure?
In the time scale we are talking about, arsenal players that left the club through sale or retirement include:
Adams, Seaman, Bould, Known, Dixon, Winterburn, Cole, Clichey, Toure, Lauren, Vieira, Petit, Overmars, Pires, Bergkamp, Wright, Anelka, Ljungberg, Wiltord, Henry.
And still the club endures.
Lets just see what unfolds over the next 9 months, Arsenal will be ok at the end of it.
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I haven't been tipping them to get relegated every year, I put the bet on for a bit of a laugh. The only time I've put a serious bet on for relegation was on Liverpool a few years ago at 80/1...and that would have come in if the board hadn't sacked Hodgeson and brought in King Kenny lol.
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Sahin should be an arsenal player by next weekend but i don't think he is anywhere near match fit so don't expect to see him playmuch before September.
M'vila is a possibility but only if we get him for 8 million
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Lololol
Spuds want chamakh on loan.
Too funny
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Are you serious?
Holy crap, if that's true then it's a good thing ROman does buy the players at Chelsea and didn't let AVB choose his own.
Wouldn't have thought Spuds fans will be enthusiastic about that for a number of reasons.
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Blimey, we're after another player, Alexander Buttner. Could mean that we're going to need him to shore up our Yoof/Reserves with him and having Michael Keane and Blackett to cover for Evra. Interesting with Fabio going out on loan too, think he might go next Summer...and good defender but too injury prone. ???
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I think it's a given we're gonna be signing a striker...Bent, Agbonlahor and Weimann isn't enough for us, especially if we have to go without Bent/Agbonlahor for a while (touch wood).
Defoe has been thrown around alot...Would love it to happen, but it looks like he's finally gonna get a run with Spurs...Besides, he's their only notable forward at the moment, so they definitely won't sell him unless they sign someone else, and even then, would they really continue with selling Defoe and just having 1 striker at the club? I doubt it.
Andy Carroll has been mentioned...On loan, I wouldn't mind, but I seriously hope we aren't thinking about buying him.
Jordan Rhodes is another...Banging the goals, but it's just a question of how big the step up is for him...It'd be a gamble, but for a low price, one I'd definitely be willing to take.
We'll see though
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The Huddersfield chairman wants £8 million for Rhodes. It's too big a gamble. Reading were after him but gave up.
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You can have Berbatov if you want!
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Sheffield Wednesday have signed striker Rodri on a season-long loan from Barcelona, subject to international clearance.
.tf :o
Sunley will have a heart attack
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Not convinced by the Moses transfer in all honesty, I know he's been good for Wigan, but just feels like we are buying kalou 2.0 :o
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Delighted all references to sahin have been lost lol.
Surely an even more boring transfer than that of hazard
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Delighted all references to sahin have been lost lol.
Surely an even more boring transfer than that of hazard
That says everything about Whinger and goons....... ;D :D
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Can't make sense of that ???
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Liverpool to bid £15m for Sturridge ?
Sunderland bidding £8m for Dempsey ? (that would be another cracking buy)
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Well for Sturridge it's actually £7.5 million plus the unofficial English player tax which doubles what the player is worth.
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Well when we buy players, there's the additional rich owner and stupidity tax to be added on as well.
Anyway, Chelsea have supposedly put a £25 million price on Sturridge, meaning he's likely to be going nowhere this window, unless we buy two strikers.
Personally I'd like us to get rid of Mikel and bring in Dembele, though there are plenty of rumours of Dembele going elsewhere.
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Yup, dembele is a great player too... wouldnt mind that... although I still think RDM should give Luiz the chance at the holding midfield role, I think he would be great... and that means we can play with Cahill in defense.. who to be fair.. has definitely been money well spent
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£25 million for Sturridge! Well gotta make that Torres money back somehow.
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Well it looks like Dembele is going to Spurs as they have agreed a fee according to the Beeb. That will be a very good signing for Spurs. We should definitely nip in there, I'm sure the lure of CL football would tempt him. Surprised Arsenal or Utd have not bid for him as well, he'd be a massive signing for Arsenal.
As for Sturridge, if somebody offered £25 million, we should bite their hand off.
I'd still prefer to see Romeu in the holding midfield role ahead of Obi. LUiz could play there but I think he'd be even more prone to cards with his tackling.
People seem to want big players in the holding roles now, completely unnecessary if they are good enough. Makalele was the best in the business in the role, but was only around 5'4". He didn't need to tackle a lot, just read the game well and play the ball simple. Of course a lot depends on the players in front of them and without someone the size of Obi, we'd have hardly any height in the team besides the back four, which would make us very vulnerable against teams who like to knock it long and from set pieces.
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Another rat leaving the sinking ship..? (http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11670/8029688/Arsenal-ready-to-sell-Walcott) :o ;D
Mind you, that's not much of a loss tbh, he's crap. It does continue to weaken the arse squad though and doesn't leave a lot of time to get a replacement in.
Wilshere and Chesney will be next ;)
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Walcott is reportedly staying now.
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Only a short term deal though, whatever that means..? A year extension perhaps..? :-\
He'll probably bung in a transfer request next Summer if arse win bugger all again.
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All going nuts on deadline day.
Arsenal after essien? Really? Is he fit?
Great player in his day but surely the bid must have been submitted by the physios at the emirates who are worried about their jobs now the virus has left lol
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I love transfer deadline day... although usually the biggest deals are kept right until the last minute..
Looks like Charlie Adam is going to Stoke for 4million.. good fit for Adam I think
Michael Owen could be going to Stoke too, possibly Everton.. wouldnt bother personally - the guy was past it ages ago, injury prone and doesnt have the dedication other players do.. no player would be happy to sit on a bench for so long.. but because he was getting a nice wage from united, he was.
Dempsey could be going to Liverpool.. good move by brendan rogers.. a well established goal scoring midfielder...although it could end up costing them quite a bit.
Berbatov could be going to Fulham... past it I think.
Dawson could be leaving Spurs... I would laugh so hard at that.. AVB attempts to destroy an english club again.
Edin Dzeko to Arsenal... pointless.. Dzeko is crap and arsenal already have two crap strikers!
QPR could be buying another 15 players... :o
Donkey boy has already gone to Wet Spam on a years loan... hilarious!!
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Villa have had a £7m bid for Dempsey accepted now :o why on earth would he want to go there though....
Berbatoss could be back at Spurs whilst Van der Vaart looks like he's leaving.
Beneyoun possibly leaving Chelsea - good riddance.
Chelsea in for Andre Schuerrle
Just heard the arsenal news on Essien, cant see it happening personally... also in for Tiote
following live ticker feed here - http://uk.yahoo.eurosport.com/football/transfers/chat.shtml?chatid=5aee9b2a49 (http://uk.yahoo.eurosport.com/football/transfers/chat.shtml?chatid=5aee9b2a49)
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Brian was on tv last night saying we tried to do a deal yesterday that didn't come off so hopefully something will happen today. We have been looking for another striker.
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You can have chamakh for a year if you like...
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Sorry I should have specified we're looking for a good striker.
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Benders gone to Juventus... lol, drags thinks they will top our CL group ;D
Van der Vaart is pretty certain to sign for Hamburg
Liverpool are trying to hawk pretty much everyone Kenny signed - Adam and Carroll are pretty much done deals... Downing and Henderson could be on their way.
Berbatoss to Fulham is pretty much a done deal now too..
Spurs for Moutinho - gimmie a break lol
Scott Sinclair to City - done deal.
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Villa have had a £7m bid for Dempsey accepted now :o why on earth would he want to go there though....
He didn't lol.
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Benders gone to Juventus... lol, drags thinks they will top our CL group ;D
Do you really want me to jinx us?
Besides, Benders is World class, just ask him, he'll tell you.
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Benders gone to Juventus... lol, drags thinks they will top our CL group ;D
Do you really want me to jinx us?
Besides, Benders is World class, just ask him, he'll tell you.
Before showing you his pants.
So Harv how will United survive now they're one world class striker down?....
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Dempsey will look like a fool if Liverpool don't do a deal in time...Maybe he'll still come to Villa, but that would only be because we would be his only option. I'd rather we signed a league 2 striker (Jordan Bowery) who wants to be here and is fully committed, than a want-way just holding out a better deal.
We'll see though.
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Benders gone to Juventus... lol, drags thinks they will top our CL group ;D
Do you really want me to jinx us?
Besides, Benders is World class, just ask him, he'll tell you.
Before showing you his pants.
So Harv how will United survive now they're one world class striker down?....
When the lazy git actually puts in some effort he is world class, just doesn't happen very often lol.
We're looking great with our options up front, arguably on a par with Citeh - the Roonster, Hernandez, Welbeck and Van Persil are all top class and we've got two promising young players in Keane and Henriquez to come through. Keane would have seen first team action if his knee hadn't exploded.
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Dempsey will look like a fool if Liverpool don't do a deal in time...
Yeah cos staying at Fulham will be so much worse than going to Villa.
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Well if the rumours are to be believed that Liverpool want Sturridge on loan, we need two strikers. With the attacking midfielders we have I think we could make do with 3 top quality strikers rather than 4 this season.
Reports suggest Schurrie from Leverkusen is a possible target.
Cavani looks like it's a non starter as he is reportedly signing a new long term deal with Napoli, with a £60 million buyout clause. Not too unhappy about that because it would have menat one of Cavani or Torres would have spent a lot of time on the bench. Not been that impressed with Cavani either and don't think he'd fit into the way we seem to be playing at the moment.
I'd be quite happy for Hulk toi come in. Mainly because not only can he play effectively on the right and work with Torres, rather than replace him in the team and potentially cause problems and undermine Torres' newly regained confidence, he can also play down the middle if Torres should get injured.
It would still lead to more selection problems though becasue HUlk would be taking one of the wide roles occupied by the likes of Mata.
Roman can definitely afford it though, having just saved himmself £3 billion in court today, so £60 million for a striker is a drop in the ocean and would be a nice way to celebrate saving all that money. Go on Roman, treat yourself. ;D
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Hmmm, on the other hand, perhaps it's a ploy by Roman. "Drogba gone, Kalou gone, all I have to do is get rid of Sturridge and RDM will have no choice but to play Torres, now why didn't I think of that when Carlo and that muppet AVB were in charge, mwhahahaha".
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Sturridge is on the bench for tonights game... I dont think he's going anywhere!
Essien isnt in the squad though ;)
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Sturridge is on the bench for tonights game... I dont think he's going anywhere!
Essien isnt in the squad though ;)
We still need a striker lol.
To be honest I don't think Ess would get many games this season, so better to let him go on loan somewhere to get football. You never know, if he proves to have fully recovered from his knee problems he might even be an asset again next season. In all honesty though I don't think he'll ever be the box to box player he was, so selling him rather than loaning him might be a better option for him and the club.
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Stiol expecting one in at Reading apparently. The main reason for this is that the Reading twitter feed is still active at Madejski and the usually vocal local reporter has suddenly gone very quiet.
The media have linked us to Jermaine Jenas and Michael Owen (which has really picked up this evening) I hope it's not the latter.
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Well, looks like nothing doing at Chelsea. If Torres gets injured we are right royally screwed. Alternatively, if he returns to the Torres of last year, we a re right royally screwed.
After the performance tonight we needed a decent holding midfielder, Mikel was as bad as I've ever seen him.
I predict either no trophies or frantic purchasing in January.
On another note, now looks like Essien to Real Madrid on loan and Benayoun has gone to Wet Spam on a years loan.
Edit: Just reading that Romeu could be off to Malaga on loan despite being on the bench tonight. That bodes well for the season, Mikel obviously first choice as holding midfielder. Here's hoping praying for a top 74 finish.
Could be worse, could have screwed up like Liverpool I suppose. Loaned out Carroll, and failed to get anyone with Dempsey seemingly off to Spurs. They will need to survive with Suarez and Borini up front.
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There's nowt wrong with Owen as long as you can keep him fit. With regular first team football he's quite capable of getting 20-odd goals a season.
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Well we did nothing. The twitter folk stayed at the stadium just to tell us at 11 that we had done nothing.
Now because we did nothing, Southampton signed Ramirez and West Ham signed 50 different strikers and a midfielder a lot of Reading fans say we are screwed. Completely forgetting, it seems, that this team who are apparently dead certs for relegation already have a good draw against Stoke and a very good performance against Chelsea under our belts. I'm not worried.
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and a very good performance against Chelsea under our belts. I'm not worried.
After tonight, I'm not sure that should fill you with too much confidence lol. :-\
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Seeks Liverpools inability to sign a replacement striker was down to Brenda not realising until tge last minute that his £20M budget also included wages. So there was less money left then he thought. That's worrying. Not for me cus I want him to fail but for Liverpool fans.
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Well we are as screwed as Liverpool if Torres gets injured or returns to the form of last season.
Seriously missed a trick by not signing someone better than Mikel and another top quality striker.
Either panic buying in January or no trophies for us this season. Though of course that could be part of ROman's plan to get rid of RDM after half a season.
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Am hearing the exact same from fellow Reading fans but swap Torres for Guthrie.
My main comfort is that there are worse teams then us in this league.
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Am hearing the exact same from fellow Reading fans but swap Torres for Guthrie.
My main comfort is that there are worse teams then us in this league.
You can't base that off two games though...Anyone who reads into the league before at least 10/15 games is stupid...Everyone knows the real test for the weaker teams comes later into the season when the injuries and suspensions hit, and players start to tire out more.
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We get better as the season goes on. Take the last few seasons as an example.
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Liverpool have made a bid for Del Piero apparently.. jeesus.. they really ARE desperate - its the equivalent of trying to tempt Robbie Fowler back - both, way past it..
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He snubbed them anyways....oh Brenda you are screwed. Harv you should stick a quid on Liverpool for relegation...actually wait don't cus if you do that they'll survive.
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He snubbed them anyways....oh Brenda you are screwed. Harv you should stick a quid on Liverpool for relegation...actually wait don't cus if you do that they'll survive.
I did that when Hodgeson was bringing them down the toilet two seasons ago at 80/1, before KKK rescued them. >:( Was looking like a reasonable bet as well until Hodgeson got the push. >:( :'(
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Metalist kharkiv set chelsea a deadline to sign taison this week
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Don't know about Taison, we need a bloody Taser (preferably to use on FSW and Failnando).
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Diaby is only a few weeks away from being a few weeks away. Gotta take the crumbs where ya find them lol
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Diaby is only a few weeks away from being a few weeks away. Gotta take the crumbs where ya find them lol
What do you reckon...3,4,5 or more games untill he's injured again?
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Not so much a rumour but a wish for Chelsea in either this window or the summer.
Get rid of Turnbull and Hilario, get Courtois back from Athletico Madrid...just so Cech has a serious fight to keep the shirt. The third keeper could be the best from the Academy.
Get rid of Torres, even if it's just on loan just get rid, bring Lukaku back asap and sign a.n.other striker...Falcao would be ideal, but in reality we are looking for someone below that quality.
Give Lamps and Cole another year, with options to remain on the staff as coaches......JT a contract for life :P......and I want to see De Bruyne play for Chelsea asap.
Other than that ffs, whoever the manager is, let them manage, give them time........then sack the useless fucker after they've won a trophy or 2 and get the next yes man in.
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Rumour has it that Courtois will be a carrot used as part of any deal for Falcao, so it may be Courtois plus (hopefully) Torres and some cash to sign Falcao. Which reduces our outlay for the fair play rules.
Though there seems to be a growing train of thought that the fair play rules will do exactly what I said and maintain the status quo because they give the bigger and wealthier clubs more spending power, locking those in the Champions League in place.
There are also questions being raised about legality and the expectation is that the first club excluded from the CL over it will take legal action in the European Courts.
A salary cap affecting all clubs equally, like it does in the NFL, was deemed legal for reasons of maintaining competetiveness, but the fair play rules introduced by UEFA don't introduce equality, they still allow the clubs with higher incomes to pay higher wages, therefore still being the ones to attract the best players.
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Diaby is only a few weeks away from being a few weeks away. Gotta take the crumbs where ya find them lol
What do you reckon...3,4,5 or more games untill he's injured again?
3. If we could get 5 games out of him i'd be delighted. He's worse than ledley king
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Lots of stories in the press today..
Chelsea holding secret talks for a summer signing of Falcao - :o ;D
Plus where the hell is Yaya going - definitely be a good signing for us, we can get rid of Mikel then ;D
Aguero wants to leave Citeh as well...
Suarez shows his class I see too... yeah Im happy, but I want to listen to some transfer offers LOL
Oh and Rooney is still off to somewhere abroad I see ;)
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Lots of stories in the press today..
Chelsea holding secret talks for a summer signing of Falcao - :o ;D
Plus where the hell is Yaya going - definitely be a good signing for us, we can get rid of Mikel then ;D
Aguero wants to leave Citeh as well...
Suarez shows his class I see too... yeah Im happy, but I want to listen to some transfer offers LOL
Oh and Rooney is still off to somewhere abroad I see ;)
Falcao, would be great.
Yaya, would be great, think that's bull put out by his agent though, especially where we're concerned given our policy on over 30's and the fact he's 29, maybe a new manager will be able to alter that policy and make the board see sense (some chance).
Suarez, good player, not a good person from what we've seen of him. Would still prefer him in our team rather than against us.
Aguero, well we should have got him instead of Torres, would have saved us £15 million too.
Falcao and either Aguero or Suarez as our two main strikers, with Ba as backup and Lukaku to come in after another year on loan (rather than have him get pissed off sitting on the bench). Now that would be good.
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Diaby is only a few weeks away from being a few weeks away. Gotta take the crumbs where ya find them lol
What do you reckon...3,4,5 or more games untill he's injured again?
3. If we could get 5 games out of him i'd be delighted. He's worse than ledley king
Diaby out for up to 9 months!!! The guy must be made of straw, or terribly unlucky.
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Great player when fit but its time to cut our losses
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He's been injured 36 times in 7 years. That makes Darren Anderton look positively healthy.
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Falcao moved in from 6/1 to 1/5 to join Chelsea this summer on sky bet, done deal?
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We don't need him do we? Not now Torres has said he's sticking around for the last 3 years of his contract. :'( :'( :'(
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There are still rumours that we're signing him. Wouldn't want to see Hernandez going in exchange though. Also rumours of Lewandowski joining us too but he seems set to join Bayern Munich I reckon.
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We don't need him do we? Not now Torres has said he's sticking around for the last 3 years of his contract. :'( :'( :'(
Torres might think he's sticking around for the last 3 years of his contract.. he's getting exchanged with Falcao come the summer ;) The orders have come from Mourinho.. who is 2/7 to join Chelsea in the summer.
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Chelsea being really heavily linked to Shakhtar Donetsk's Henrikh Mkhitaryan.
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Only cos they've got a heavy surplus of Ks and Hs in the club shop lol ;D ;D ;D
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Thiago for £15million. Yeah like that'll happen
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Benayoun's available again!
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Now we're talking!
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;D
Malouda's on a free too, and he's French. Doubles appeal to Arsene.
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Wayne Bridge. That's a nice start. More please.
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Really? The guy only has one foot and he ain't too clever using that one, never rated him but he could be ok in the championship I guess
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Really? The guy only has one foot and he ain't too clever using that one, never rated him but he could be ok in the championship I guess
He was brilliant, if only for that goal against the goons in the Champions League, then he went downhill fast....... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Really? The guy only has one foot and he ain't too clever using that one, never rated him but he could be ok in the championship I guess
He was brilliant at Brighton last season. Can do a job in The Championship.
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Really? The guy only has one foot and he ain't too clever using that one, never rated him but he could be ok in the championship I guess
He was brilliant, if only for that goal against the goons in the Champions League, then he went downhill fast....... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
You must burn when you think of how you gave southampton £7 million for him back in 2003 ;-)
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Really? The guy only has one foot and he ain't too clever using that one, never rated him but he could be ok in the championship I guess
He was brilliant, if only for that goal against the goons in the Champions League, then he went downhill fast....... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
You must burn when you think of how you gave southampton £7 million for him back in 2003 ;-)
Not at all it wasn't my money... :P
But he did a job for us until we got ashley from you and gave you Billy, so it was a win win situation. 8)
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arse haven't had a win situation since 2005 :o :P
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Chelsea should be signing Andre Schurrle, not too familiar with him to be honest.. any thoughts drags ?
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Twitter awash with rumours we're signing Royston Drenthe. I'll believe it when I see it.
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Chelsea should be signing Andre Schurrle, not too familiar with him to be honest.. any thoughts drags ?
Know about as much as you do about him.
Current German international, so can't be too bad. Supposedly fast and has a good shot. Common consensus appears to be that he is better than Marin/Moses so will add to the squad, but would rather have KDB in the team ahead of him and if it means KDB going on loan again, then it's a backward step.
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Galatasaray have made a 6m quid offer for Nani which we've turned down, we want 8.5m. Thought he'd end up on his way out, on his day he's an amazing player but not consistent enough really.
It's sounding like we're in the front running for signing Lewandowski too.
Nani out, the Roonster out and Ronnie and Lewandowski in. That would have me being a very happy bunny indeed! 8)
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Leeds have signed Matt Smith from Oldham...yeah I've never heard of him either, apparently he has scored 15 goals in 75 games, that's 1 goal in 5 games, in League 1! Not got much hope for that one.
We're apparently getting Noal Hunt on a freebie at the start of July.
We're also rumored to be trying to get Kevin Doyle and Billy Sharp...I wouldn't mind Billy Sharp, he always seems to score against us ::)
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I feel sorry for you Shellyboy you're in for a season of HOOOOF!!!
Matt Smith is a typical Brian signing. Lower league talent untested at this level and cheap.
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Ronnie has denied signing a new deal with Real Madrid. Monaco are sniffing around but he'd be insane to want to play in the Frog league no matter how much they're going to pay him to do it. Maybe he's coming home..? 8)
Sign him up Moyesie, sign him up!!! ;D
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Leeds have signed Matt Smith from Oldham...yeah I've never heard of him either
He's the guy that scored 2 past Liverpool to knock them out of the FA cup.. then scored 2 against Everton in the next round too!! I thought he was great in those games.. but it did just consist of knocking the ball high up to him to use his height as an advantage!
Common consensus appears to be that he is better than Marin/Moses so will add to the squad, but would rather have KDB in the team ahead of him and if it means KDB going on loan again, then it's a backward step.
For 18 million I'd hope he is better than Marin and Moses!! I don't rate Moses at all to be honest and Marin hasn't really impressed despite not starting many games.
Harv... you aint getting Ronaldo.. dream on.. Fibreglass maybe...LOL ;D
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Yeah, whenever people talk about Matt Smith, everyone mentions his FA Cup run earlier this year. He is a 6ft 6 striker too and everybody says we're going to play "Long-ball" I already had that last season with Warnock in charge ::)
However Brain McDermott claims we're not going to be playing Long Ball with Matt Smith next season, and I hope he keeps to his word, because towards the end of last season we were playing some decent football!
If we get some of the other signings I mentioned earlier, I'd be very happy, especially Billy Sharp...
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Fibreglass has said he isn't going anywhere, we're more likely to get Ronnie if we put a bid in. Should end up getting him for £60-80m considering the time left on his contract.
Evra, Nani, Anderson and the Roonster out - Baines, Ronnie, Fellaini and Lewandowski in.
Sounds like a good bit of business to me 8)
There'll be plenty of Evertonians pissed off though lol ;D ;D ;D
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There were reports yesterday that Monaco have put in a bid of 100m Euros for Ronnie. Time for United to take action and bring him home. :o 8)
All we need to do is match that bid and he'll be on his way, that would be 5m quid more than we sold him for. We might not even need to match it tbh. Playing in Ligue 1 would be a terrible career decision.
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You need to put your entire bet fair account on ronnaldo going anywhere but manyoo
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Well if this talk of Nike being keen to have him back at United is true there's a good chance of it happening. We'll have to wait and see. ;)
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Royston is a Royal. Happy with that.
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Well that's Chelsea's deal with Adidas extended for another 10 seasons at a reported £29 million a season ($450 million dollars over the 10 seasons). That will gto some way to helpiing us with FFP.
I'd imagine a similalry big deal with a shirt sponsor when the current one with Samsung runs out, whiich is currently worth £18 million a season. Add in naming rights for the stadium and any new stadium when it's sorted, allong with TV revenue and CL money as long as we continue to qualify, sorted.
When we finally get the 60,000 stadium Roman wants, we should be doing very nicely thank you very much.
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We're already there ;D
Higuain seems to be a done deal. Excellent. Rooney and fellaini rumours still doing the rounds
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The Roonster between 2006 and 2013 with United has won 5 Premiership titles, 3 League Cups, 1 Champions League and 1 World Club Cup. Even if arse could afford his wages (which is doubtful) why would he leave a club where he's won 10 trophies in 8 years to join a club that's won bugger all during the last 8..?
You're obviously having a laugh but there are some gooners seriously expecting it to happen lol ;D ;D ;D
You might have a chance of getting Fellaini but if United show any interest then there's only one place he's going to go.
I think the Roonster, if he can't be convinced to stay at United, will end up going to Dortmund or Real Madrid as part of a transfer deal for Lewandowski or Ronnie. He's going to want to go to a club that's seriously challenging for the Champions League every season, and that isn't arse.
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We're already there ;D
Higuain seems to be a done deal. Excellent. Rooney and fellaini rumours still doing the rounds
If anything starts to materialise with ROoney and Fellaini, I would bet on Utd with Moyes rivalling you for Fellaini's signature, Moyes being the decisive factor, and Chelsea rivalling you for Rooney, with Rooney being very good friends with JT, Lamps and Cole, I think if we went in for him, he'd choose us.
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I reckon we should do a straight swap. The Roonster for Torres :P
Shit, that prospect is going to give me nightmares now lol ;D ;D ;D
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I reckon we should do a straight swap. The Roonster for Torres :P
I'd take that.
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The Roonster between 2006 and 2013 with United has won 5 Premiership titles, 3 League Cups, 1 Champions League and 1 World Club Cup. Even if arse could afford his wages (which is doubtful) why would he leave a club where he's won 10 trophies in 8 years to join a club that's won bugger all during the last 8..?
You're obviously having a laugh but there are some gooners seriously expecting it to happen lol ;D ;D ;D
You might have a chance of getting Fellaini but if United show any interest then there's only one place he's going to go.
I think the Roonster, if he can't be convinced to stay at United, will end up going to Dortmund or Real Madrid as part of a transfer deal for Lewandowski or Ronnie. He's going to want to go to a club that's seriously challenging for the Champions League every season, and that isn't arse.
He doesn't like moyes.
It isn't manyoo either
We can afford both his transfer fee and his wages IF wenger decides to buy.
He's asked to leave.
That covers most of your points/questions
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United are usually serious challengers for the Champions League. They're among the favourites to win the competition every season for good reason. ;)
And there's one very important point you haven't addressed - why on earth would he want to join a club that's won bugger all in 8 years and sees getting a top 4 place at the end of the season being a major achievement..?
And yes, perhaps you'd be able to afford the transfer fee and wages to begin with (although I'd only believe it if I saw it) but arse got into a shitload of trouble in the late 90s early 00s by breaking their wage structure due to the demands of Vieira, Wiltord, Kanu and Campbell. Once the Roonster gets 250K per week the demands of other players increase. The board won't do this again no matter what the Yank is saying. It took them years to sort out their wage bill, they're not going to do the same thing again.
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Maybe they could just do what United did and get into masses of debt and just pretend they aren't.
You're right though. United are considered amongst the favourites for the Champions League...then they struggle to get out of the group stages and get beat by such European powerhouses as FC Basel and Besiktas.
Then when you play a proper team in the quarters you lose.
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United are usually serious challengers for the Champions League. They're among the favourites to win the competition every season for good reason. ;)
And there's one very important point you haven't addressed - why on earth would he want to join a club that's won bugger all in 8 years and sees getting a top 4 place at the end of the season being a major achievement..?
And yes, perhaps you'd be able to afford the transfer fee and wages to begin with (although I'd only believe it if I saw it) but arse got into a shitload of trouble in the late 90s early 00s by breaking their wage structure due to the demands of Vieira, Wiltord, Kanu and Campbell. Once the Roonster gets 250K per week the demands of other players increase. The board won't do this again no matter what the Yank is saying. It took them years to sort out their wage bill, they're not going to do the same thing again.
You're talking shite again
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Maybe they could just do what United did and get into masses of debt and just pretend they aren't.
You're right though. United are considered amongst the favourites for the Champions League...then they struggle to get out of the group stages and get beat by such European powerhouses as FC Basel and Besiktas.
Then when you play a proper team in the quarters you lose.
Of course there's been a season here and there where we haven't done well but we frequently make it to the Quarters/Semis/Final. And we've won it once and made it to two other Finals in that 8 year span of arse winning bugger all. We're always among the favourites to win the competition every season.
And styles, I'm not talking shite at all. Everything I've posted in that post you've quoted is factually correct. I said years ago that arse were getting into to trouble with their wages, all of you gooners were denying it for years and your board proved me right.
I'll ask you again: Why would the Roonster join a club that's won bugger all in 8 years..? Football players play football to win trophies. He's more likely to join a club like Chelski, Citeh, Real Madrid, Barcelona, PSG, Monaco, Dortmund or Munich where his side are going to be seriously challenging for trophies season after season. PSG and Monaco aren't quite there yet but they've got the spending power to make it happen.
If/when he goes he'll go to a club that will have decent ambition, that's going to push for trophies, that's going to help his career progress. And that club certainly isn't arse. ;)
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Arsenal will be back winning soon. Rooney could want to be part of that. Maybe he wants to work with wenger, a much better manager than moyes.
Anyway may be he'll stay put, who gives a fuck
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Lmfao, they're going to continue to win bugger all. ;D ;D ;D
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Isn't this thread about transfer rumours?? Missing the point and going on an anti arse al rant again there harv. You need a wee thread all to yourself
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No rumours for a while so I might as well continue to wind you up lol ;D
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Today's rumour is fellaini wants to come to arsenal as well. You're not winding me up but please do continue to amuse yourself, it's like watching a little monkey at the zoo
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A player has flown in from Germany to sign for Reading. Clearly we've won the race to sign Lewandoski.
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Reading have won nothing in even longer than 8 years why would he possibly sign for them etcetera etcetera etcetera! !
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Reading have won nothing in even longer than 8 years why would he possibly sign for them etcetera etcetera etcetera! !
Reading are one of the many sides that have been more successful than arse during the last 8 years - they won the Championship in 2012. The last League title your lot won was 2004 lol ;D ;D ;D
Apparently Perez reckons Ronnie is going to sign a new contract soon...United need to put in a £60m bid ASAP imo. They'll probably turn that down but that should convince Ronnie to put in a transfer request I reckon, then negotiations will be able to start. Can't see him going for more than 80m given the state of his contract.
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Today's rumour is fellaini wants to come to arsenal as well. You're not winding me up but please do continue to amuse yourself, it's like watching a little monkey at the zoo
Is this because of the girl on Twitter who said she'd spoken to Fellaini in a club and asked if he was going to Arsenal. Fellaini supposedly said "I hope so".
What really happend was that he misheard her say "are you going to take me up the arse" and he said "I hope so".
Had this discussion with another Arsenal fan who was laughing about all of the rumours in the papers, saying that the reporter's sources were suspect, but he then started referring to this post on Twitter and trying to claim that because it was on Twitter it was more reliable.
Joking aside, if she was hot (and I have not seen her picture) and an Arsenal fan, I can imagine many a Premier League footballer might spin her a line in the hope of a quick shag.
For anyone to take that as having any more credence than a stroy in any of the tabloids is laughable.
I hate this time of season and all the bloody speculation with clubs and agents trying to unsettle players or get them a nice big pay rise. I don't believe a rumour until the player has signed.
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Yup, I remember around 10 years ago that I added up the amount of money that United would have to spend to buy every single player we were allegedly in the running for. It was close to £400m, back in the days when £400m was a ridiculous amount of money lol ;D ;D ;D
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It was a German American with an English name Danny Williams. Defensive Mid. Happy but a bit annoyed we didn't show this kind of effort to improve the squad when we were in the Prem.
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Maybe when you go up next time you'll be stronger for it.
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Arsenal will be back winning soon.
Even Harv believes that...................................... It's just Harv thinks, it will be in The Championship ;D
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Maybe when you go up next time you'll be stronger for it.
Well Anton has said he wants a stronger squad in the Chump then we had in the Prem and its already looking like we will.
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United have had a bid for Baines turned down, probably means that United are losing Evra, Butner or Fabio. Hopefully we're keeping hold of Butner because he's a very promising prospect. I reckon Evra will be on his way out because he's lost a fair amount of pace.
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Plus the most salient point which you forgot and that is Evra is shit..
You'll be paying at least 15m for Baines I reckon though.. lot of money for a guy that's already 28, has no European pedigree and who has only really featured as a bit-part player at international level ;)
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So United's big plan is to take Evertons manager, who has never won anything, and Evertons players, who have never even come close to winning anything, and try and win stuff....makes perfect sense.
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Shhhh Bealec, someone at Manyoo might read that and realise what's happening!
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Neymar wants the Roonster to join Barcelona, going to be interesting to see whether Barcelona or Real Madrid are going to put in a bid. Real could be interesting if we give them the Roonster and £40m for Ronnie.
This time it's all about money, someone in the comments of the Sky Sports article raised a good point. The Roonster wasn't impressed by the club's ambition so we made a few signings and now he's not happy because he doesn't start every week lol.
I think it's definitely time we let him go, and replace him with either Lewandowski or Ronnie...or both :o :P
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neither would be more likely, Ronnaldo won't go back to manure, put your entire dole cheque on it
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I think if Rooney went to Barca it'd just show how poor he is compared to their players.
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I think if Rooney went to Barca it'd just show how poor he is compared to their players.
and if he complained about not playing enough at Utd, he'll be really peed off sitting on the bench at Barca.
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Apparently Cavani has agreed personal terms with Chelsea, but we don't want to pay the £63m odd release clause.. so whether Napoli sell him for less is another thing.. this would be Mourinho's marquee signing.. and a cracking one at that.
And we are about to bid £20m for Rooney.. I cant see him moving to another English club personally.. and I hope not because I don't want him at the Bridge :-\
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Rumours, rumours, rumours.
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rooney is going to be a gooner, the daily mail said it so it must be true!
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rooney is going to be a gooner, the daily mail said it so it must be true!
Have all the goons, paid for their season tickets yet? :P
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Moyes is meeting with the Roonster tomorrow but I reckon it's time for him to go. If he does go he'll be more likely to join Chelski if he stays in the Premiership, but he could end up going to Dortmund in an exchange deal for Lewandowski, who isn't going to Bayern Munich. Then there's Barcelona and Real Madrid to take into account too.
We're sniffing around Strootman apparently but PSV aren't keen on letting him go.
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Rooney would be a natural in Germany, he can practically speak the language already ...
... well, he can pronounce the country Geermany.
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No Roonster talks yet, going to be tomorrow at the latest apparently. :o
Time to get rid, Moyes.
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Good news and bad news for the goons........................................
Arshavin, Squillaci, Denilson, Djourou and Mannone have been sold or loaned out......
The bad news they are struggling to get rid of.........Nicklas Bendtner ;D ;D
Us Chelsea fans moan about Torres, but Bendtner hasn't scored a league goal in over a year, rather than give him away Wenger will still ask for millions for the waste of space.
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Has Wenger gone insane..? Getting rid of all those quality players means that, according to styles, arse no longer have arguably the best squad in the Premiership. :o
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Pretty obvious that they don't.. they don't have Bebe 8)
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Rumours, rumours, rumours.
That is the topic of this thread... ;)
Apparently we offered 3m plus 2m in add-ons for John Ruddy to replace Turnbull who left... to be fair, we could buy an inanimate object and still have an better option than Turnbull
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Turnbull who left... to be fair, we could buy an inanimate object and still have an better option than Turnbull
With Turnbull in goal, I always said any opposition shot on target was likely to be a goal.
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Apparently we offered 3m plus 2m in add-ons for John Ruddy to replace Turnbull who left... to be fair, we could buy an inanimate object and still have an better option than Turnbull
Keeps your mits off!!
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Bendtner has been on loan for the last couple of seasons sandy so it's no concern what he does, pretty sure Wenger would drive him anywhere for a medical so it's not because we want a big fee that he's not been sold, it's because he still thinks chelsea or manyoo will come in for him last minute lol
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So Higuain is almost IN, Rooney has nothing sorted with moyes, Fellaini is apparently keen on a move but Arsenal don't agree with what he thinks his wages should be. Some bookies stopped taking bets on Suarez joining but don't see that one happening. Wenger confident he will get Cesar from QPR.
Lots of rumours but as I said during my last bout of diharrea though, nothing solid yet!
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Apparently we offered 3m plus 2m in add-ons for John Ruddy to replace Turnbull who left... to be fair, we could buy an inanimate object and still have an better option than Turnbull
Keeps your mits off!!
To be honest, I think he's a great keeper, so I'd be happy to see him stay at Norwich and continue to get first team action, week in, week out as I'd be keen to see him cement himself as England's number 2 goalkeeper come the World Cup and I don't think he'll be able to do that sitting on a subs bench
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So Higuain is almost IN, Rooney has nothing sorted with moyes, Fellaini is apparently keen on a move but Arsenal don't agree with what he thinks his wages should be. Some bookies stopped taking bets on Suarez joining but don't see that one happening. Wenger confident he will get Cesar from QPR.
Lots of rumours but as I said during my last bout of diharrea though, nothing solid yet!
Higuain will be a good signing if they can manage it, but I think Juventus are still in the running going by what his Dad says.
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lol.... is this a joke I'm reading.. Arsenal have bid £30 million for Suarez ;D ;D and even funnier.. Liverpool turned it down... surely none of that is true ;D
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Arsene's having a giggle.
Expect a £20m bid for Rooney to follow soon.
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If we were to sell him we wouldn't get much more than 20m for him anyway given how long he has left on his contract. But if he does go he'll want to go to a club where he's likely to win something as I've already mentioned.
I'd say the Suarez story is bollocks anyway, he wants to leave English football.
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I got the following from another site but it did make me laugh........................................
About a month ago, top Arsenal suit, Ivan Gazidis, was banging on about how he'd won the lottery and he was going to sign Wayne Rooney and Gonzalo Higuaín and Marouane Fellaini and Katie Hopkins and Andy Murray and, and, and, and he was going to get Gunnersaurus a shiny new suit and he was going to build a time machine and go back 10 years to fetch Thierry Henry, Patrick Vieira, Robert Pires and Dennis Bergkamp and then he was going to go back another 65 million years to get Gunnersaurus a Gunnersaurusette. He had dreams, did Ivan the Ambitious. Gone were the days of settling for the likes of Gervinho and Olivier Giroud, Arsenal were going to reach for the stars, and chuck a lassoo round the moon and drag it down to the Emirates for good measure.
Fast forward a few weeks and it seems that things aren't quite going to plan. For a start, Emirates staff have been worried about the bangs and blasts and strong smell of smoke emerging from the boardroom, where Gazidis, armed with instructions, a screwdriver and a bag of nails, has been trying to work out how to put together the time machine he purchased for £300 off a keen buyer on eBay. But no matter how many times he's turned the blasted thing off and then on again and then off and then on again and then threatened it with reprisals unless it starts working this instant and then begged it to start and then turned it off and then on again and then finally settled on attacking it with a large stick in the style of Basil Fawlty – he would have used a trophy if one had been handy but this is the Arsenal boardroom – he's had no joy.
What a letdown. No 2003-era Henry and no Gunnersauruesette for Gunnersaurus, who just wants to be loved. He's so very lonely. And while all of this has been going on, Gazidis, his eye very much off the ball, hasn't been able to excel at the job at which he excels: negotiating in the transfer market. As far as the Fiver can tell, Arsenal were meant to have been unveiling Higuaín by now given that they've already agreed terms with the striker, but there's been no unveiling and now it seems there's a danger that it won't happen at all. Tactically speaking, Arsenal's tactical response has been to lodge a £30m bid for loveable, misunderstood Luis Suárez, an offer which Liverpool, calling upon the famous Scouse sense of humour, have laughed out of town. Oh Ivan! Oh Arsenal! You'd better get a move on, there's only so much more of this Arsène Wenger will allow before he starts to wonder whether signing Carlton Cole on a free would represent better value.
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;D ;D ;D
Strootman has got the hump with PSV getting rid of half their players and wants out. Put a bid in, Moyesie! Would rather have Strootman than Fellaini. 8)
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A bit early to say the Higuain signing has fallen through yet though to be fair.
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Apparently Benteke has put in a written tranfer request............. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Hmmm...I wonder who's tapped him up..? Wenger, perhaps..?
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I personally wouldn't want Benteke at Chelsea.. we have Lukaku who is a pretty similar player and yes it would be an upgrade over Ba (because of his age).. but so what... no point spending £20-25 million on a player who is quite clearly not going to be our main striker next season.
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Well that's a great start to our pre-season tour...a day or two after Moyes says that the Roonster is in great shape he does a hamstring and goes home lol. I'm sure conspiracy theorists will have a field day with this one lol.
Just seen that Thiago can be grabbed for £18m quid, would just about prefer Thiago to Strootman because his passing is better but Strootman will take less time to adjust to the fast pace of Premiership football. Going to be interesting to see which on, if either one, Moyes goes for.
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Who knew that "Holding talks with Chelsea and Arsenal" is actually spelt "Done his hamstring"
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Top of the Premiership Injury Table again with 7 injuries lol :o ;D ;D ;D
To be fair though Moyes has only been managing for a few days and most of those are old injuries from Fergie's reign.
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Bad news for you gooners, Wenger is apparently close to signing a new deal lol ;D
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Apparently United aren't going to offer the Roonster a newm deal. Right decision imo, but it would make morem sense for us to sell him this Summer rather than let him go in two years time on a free transfer. If we sell him now we'll end up getting £20-25m for him. :-\
Bayern Munich have denied that a deal has been done for Thiago so he's still up for grabs and Moyes has stated that he wants to strengthen the midfield so we could be looking at Thiago, Bale, Strootman and Ronnie as potential targets. 8)
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Well the Roonster isn't going to be happy lol. Moyes has said that we need him as cover for Van Persil, so we'll be looking at Hernandez and Van Persil up front as his first choice pairing I reckon. Think we should get rid myself whilst we can still get at least £20m for him. :-\ ???
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Apparently we've made a £25m bid for Fibreglass according to Sky sources :o
Would rather have Thiago or Strootman tbh but Fibreglass wouldn't be a bad addition to the squad.
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Well Thiago has gone to Bayern Munich. :(
Citeh, arse and Chelski are now said to be sniffing around Fibreglass too. Can't see him wanting to leave though, he has wanted to play for them since he was a teenager and according to his contract arse have first refusal. A bit of an odd choice of a transfertarget tbh, wouldn't surprise me if United have started this rumour to detract attention from Strootman who I think is our real target.
*Adjusts tin foil hat*
:P
Moyes has also said that the board haven't given him a limit, he can spend as much as he wants :o If that's the case he'd be a fool not to put in a 60m+ bid in for Ronnie. Ronnie has said exactly what he said before he left United - that he's happy at the club but may leave in the future. I can see us chancing our arm I reckon, although we seem to be blessed with decent wingers at the moment, Adnan and Zaha were very impressive against the Singha XI last week plus we have Nani, Valencia and Young.
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Lol, according to 'Sky Sports sources' the Roonster is 'angry and confused' and is open to a move to London. I reckonJose is going to put a bid in soon, can't see him wanting to play for arse.
Time to get rid Moyesie, put in a bid for Lewandowski and Ronnie. 8)
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If Suarez does end up at the Goons, I can't think of a better fit for a player and a club.
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£10 million + Mata or Luiz for Rooney.. that's gotta be a load of old pony ;D Rooneys worth about £10 million + Moses.. at best.
Manure would be stupid to turn down that offer aswell 8)
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Don't want Louise but Mata would be a good acquisition, but it won't happen. He's not for sale apparently.
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Looks like that exchange bid was a load of old bollocks, Chelski have said they've just made a cash offer. Mourinho has said that the Roonster is their only transfer target :o
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Love this from the goons board........from all those years ago, and yet it seems so similar.. 8) ;D
There are some revenue streams before 2006 which will enable us to spend more on the transfer budget – receipt of land sales and some money from Granada Media.’ – managing director Keith Edelman, February 2004.
‘There are sufficient funds available to the manager.’ – Edelman, September 2005.
‘…the effect means we can spend more on transfers over the next 15 years.’ – Edelman, May 2006.
‘If Arsene came to us and said he wanted to spend £40m on a player we could do that.’ – Edelman, Sept 2007.
‘We remain firmly committed to substantial investment in the playing squad.’ – chairman Peter Hill-Wood, Sept 2008.
‘We’ve got a substantial amount of money to invest.’ – chief executive Ivan Gazidis, Sept 2009.
‘The club is secure – we have sufficient funds to invest.’ – Gazidis, May 2010.
‘In January and in the summer there will be significant funds available to bolster the team.’ – Gazidis, Sept 2011.
‘All the money we make is available to the manager.’ – Gazidis, May 2012.
‘It’s all about giving us the capability to go to the manager and say “here is the money for you to compete”.’ – Gazidis, June 2013.
Will Whinger eventually buy someone of note???
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Nope, because anyone of note wouldn't be interested in joining a club that's won bugger all in donkey's years lol ;D ;D ;D
I wonder how long their barren run is going to last..? Not too far away from double figures :o
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Don't want Louise but Mata would be a good acquisition, but it won't happen. He's not for sale apparently.
Whatever.. Luiz would go straight into your first 11.. as a defender, he makes a few mistakes, but I'd have him anyday over Rio or Vidic, simply because a) he's young and will get better and b) he offers more than just a plain center back ... as a defensive midfielder.. he pisses all over Carrick.
Mata is probably one of the best midfielders in the PL.. he's worth 3 Rooneys at least.
And thank god Chelsea came out and denied it all.. it was pretty laughable
I really hope Rooney pisses off to Arsenal..not only would it fuck you off.. but I don't want him at Chelsea ;D
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The Roonster would be seven kinds of insane to go to arse. He's got the choice of going to City - a club that has limitless amounts of cash to spend who've recently won the Premiership, Chelski - a club that's got a decent amount of cash to spend who've recently won the Champions League or arse - who've got bugger all money to spend, won't be able to afford his wages and have won bugger all for 8 years.
And you've then got to take into account the fact that our Chairman has said that they're willing to let his contract expire before letting him go.
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lol no one will sign for manure. The only draw was SAF, no way is anyone signing for moyes, attempts to sign Cesc are hilarious. My £1 on them getting relegated looks like a good investment!
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Doesn't matter who manages United. It's arguably the biggest club in world football, we've always attracted top players and always will do.
I still think this Fibreglass situation is a ruse and we'll announce the signing of Strootman over the weekend. Only offering £25m for Fibreglass isn't a serious bid for him imo.
Moyes can basically spend as much as he wants to get whoever he wants. I'd say that Strootman and Ronnie are realistic transfer targets...although I think both Adnan and Zaha are going to see first team action this season and we also have Nani, Young and Valencia available on the flanks.
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Apparently Benteke has put in a written tranfer request............. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02499/christian-benteke_2499693b.jpg)
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Dross,
I believe the conversation between Benteke and his agent went something like this.............
"Villa are shite, get me out of this hellhole, I hate being here, a top club will surely want to buy me".....
...a few weeks later......"Sorry Christian, you are not as good as you believe you are, we've only had a definite bid from Spurs"........
.......Fuck that I wont play for them.....tell Villa I love them again and will play if they double my wages........then next season I will want to leave again. 8)"truth"
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Hmmm...looks like that bid for Fibreglass wasn't just a ruse to detract attention away from Strootman, we've upped our bid from £25m to £35m...as if 5m quid is going to make any difference lol. There's no way he's going to want to leave Barcelona anyway, bit of a weird transfer target tbh. Very odd. :-\ ???
No bids for Ronnie yet either, they should test the water with a £40m bid. ;D
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Dross,
I believe the conversation between Benteke and his agent went something like this.............
"Villa are shite, get me out of this hellhole, I hate being here, a top club will surely want to buy me".....
...a few weeks later......"Sorry Christian, you are not as good as you believe you are, we've only had a definite bid from Spurs"........
.......Fuck that I wont play for them.....tell Villa I love them again and will play if they double my wages........then next season I will want to leave again. 8)"truth"
Irrespective of the conversations that were had, we still have him for another year and his quality will help us push up the table next season.
Christian Benteke is a good player...Not sure if he'll be great, but he has the signs...Big and strong, bullies defenders, powerful in the air, excellent first touch and scores goals...Remember that time you spunked £50M up the wall for a striker who can't score goals? ;D
Even if it's 60k a week, it's a worth it...With people like Shay Given, Stephen Ireland, Stephen Warnock and Alan Hutton all on similar wage packets, theres no reason not to justify the costs for a player with 10 times more quality and potential than any of those listed.
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You can all stop talking about your so called "Big Names" like Rooney, and Cesc for a minute. In REAL News, Leeds United have approached Bolton Wanderers to sign Matt Mills!!! :P ;)
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Hmmm...looks like that bid for Fibreglass wasn't just a ruse to detract attention away from Strootman, we've upped our bid from £25m to £35m...as if 5m quid is going to make any difference lol. There's no way he's going to want to leave Barcelona anyway, bit of a weird transfer target tbh. Very odd. :-\ ???
No bids for Ronnie yet either, they should test the water with a £40m bid. ;D
*harvs world - 35-25=5
::)
Cesc bids are hilarious. No manager at Barca just now so no way to know if new coach has him in plans or not. Arsenal have first option to buy back which they will exercise if it comes to it but in any case Arsene has stated he expects Cesc to stay at least one more season at Camp Nou. The papers are having a field day with manyoo supporters just now. Ah well at least moysey got a win, he'll not have too many more of them between now and chrimbo which is when he'll get sacked lol
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It was a typo, meant to post 30 ;)
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Maybe I'm psychic, 'Sky sources' (http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11667/8837093/cesc-fabregas-considering-barcelona-future-after-manchester-united-bid-say-sky-sources) say that Barcelona will consider a £35m bid and Fibreglass is considering his future because he hasn't been given any guarantees of a regular starting place there :o
£35m for Fibreglass and £40-60m for Ronnie would be a great bit of business, although I'm not too sure how you could have both Fibreglass and Kagawa in the same side. :-\
If we don't get Ronnie this Summer we'll get him next year I reckon.
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Apparently Gareth Bale has agreed personal terms with Real Madrid.. :o ;D ;D
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the goblin Moyes has been told cesc isn't for sale and he doesn't want to leave yet he keeps bidding. Is he related to you Doofus?
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They've obviously upped the bid because Barcelona must have given some indication that £25m wasn't enough but they would consider a higher bid. And if these sources are correct another 5m quid will seal the deal and Fibreglass is considering his future at the club.
In Barcelona had flat out refused the bid and weren't considering the sale at any price we wouldn't have made another bid.
I reckon we're going to put in a bid for Ronnie, Nike are rumoured to be willing to chip in to bring their poster boy to a club wearing Nike shirts. The longer that Ronnie goes without signing a contract extension the more chance there is of us getting him.
And with Ronnie, Fibreglass, Kagawa, Carrick, Young, Anderson, Valencia, Zaha, Cleverley, Lingard, Jonesie, Nani, Giggsy, Fletcher, Adnan and Powell to choose from I'd say that United would have the strongest midfield options in Europe. :o
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united should put in a bid for neymar and messi while they're at it lol
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Neymar has just got there, Messi starts every game. Fibreglass wants to start every week and he's not doing that at Barcelona. That's why he's allegedly considering his future there. He certainly won't want to leave a successful club to return to a club where he only won one fluked trophy in the eight or nine years he was there. If he was going to leave Barcelona he'd want to join a club that wins trophies or is capable of winning trophies - United, Citeh or Chelski would be more likely to be attractive to him.
It all depends on how reliable those sources are, the fact that United tabled a second bid points to a possibility that a deal can be done.
And if Ronnie doesn't sign for us this Summer we'll get him next year for peanuts. ;)
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united should put in a bid for neymar and messi while they're at it lol
You should worry about who Wenger, will sign next. ::)
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Well Barcelona have finally ruled out a possible deal for Fibreglass, Martino isn't letting him go. Going to be interesting to see if there's any sort of reaction from Fibreglass about this, if he still hasn't been guaranteed a regular start then he may put in a transfer request lol :P
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Have just noticed the speculation about Baldy Bonce being linked with Roma for £7m...Wenger should bite their hands off!!! :o ;D ;D ;D
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united should put in a bid for neymar and messi while they're at it lol
You should worry about who Wenger, will sign next. ::)
The other day Wenger said that arse can win the Premiership even if they don't sign anyone at all lololol. Think he's been at the cooking sherry again lol ;D ;D ;D
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he must've been sharing it with Rio then ;)
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The difference is that Rio's team walked the Premiership last season and Wenger's team has won bugger all for 8 seasons. ;)
We might not get another attacking midfielder because we've got Adnan coming through. He was voted the Reserve's best player last season and has been fantastic during United's pre-season. And he's got two good feet and a good eye for goal too so he can basically play anywhere in midfield or up front. Zaha is also looking like the real deal.
Rio could very well be right when he says we don't need to buy anyone to retain the title...we'll have to wait and see but there's a long time to go until the Window closes anyway.
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Fucking hell, I've just seen that Spurs are rumoured to have refused an £85m bid for Bale from Real Madrid :o He's good but he's not that good!!! ???
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Lewandowski feels 'cheated' by Dortmund apparently...sign him up Moyesie, sign him up. Only a year left on his contract, got to be worth a 10m quid bid to stop Bayern Munich getting him on a free next Summer.
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Blimey Wenger, not again (http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11670/8850337/arsene-wenger-confident-young-arsenal-side-will-prosper-this-season) :o :P
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Hmmm...it looks like Fibreglass still hasn't made any sort of statement about staying at Barcelona (http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11667/8852398/tata-martino-expects-manchester-united-target-cesc-fabregas-to-stay-at-barcelona). Guess he's still 'considering his future'..? :o
This next month is going to be interesting. :P
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Still no more news on Bale, but if Real Madrid are going to pay £105m for him then they've gone insane. He's worth £50m at the most. :-\
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2384790/Cristiano-Ronaldo-signs-new-75m-deal-Real-Madrid.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
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Ronaldo said: "I'm not going to confirm anything - I'm just going to do my job like I always do.
"My future - I don't know. At this moment I'm a player of Madrid, the future, I really don't know.
"Let's see what's going to happen - but for the moment, I'm good where I am."
If he's signed a deal, why hasn't he confirmed it..? He's making the exact same statements he made before he left United. A £40m bid will get him back to United imo.
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You think Real would sell Ronaldo at £40M, when they're valuing Gareth Bale at over £85M?
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Given the time left on his contract, yes. They should put in a £40m bid for him to test the water and be prepared to go up to £60m if necessary. It certainly isn't worth paying more than 60m for him.
And as I've already mentioned the Bale situation is ridiculous, definitely not worth over £50m.
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Arsenal confirm they have completed the signing of Chinese international Fakin Noo Wan. ;D
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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old ones are the best eh Sandy ;)
Suarez now looking v doubtful, in one way its good that clubs are exerting power, on the other hand who wants a player who doesn't want to be there??
Michu and Dzeko are alternatives to Suarez, Michu would be a good signing. Gustavo could be on his way as well, announcement due soon but all the noise was coming from his camp so he may just have been using Arsenal to get a better deal with Napoli/Barca.
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Do you honestly want a man like that playing for your club..? The man is pure scum. I personally wouldn't want him anywhere near my club. :o
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lol, the rogues gallery that have played for your lot iver the years means you shouldn't be too judgemental.
I'd love us to sign Suarez. The crazy wee fucker could score a hat trick at the lane then lose his marbles, bite Dawsons face off and take a dump on the pitch. It'd be brilliant!
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I'd love us to sign Suarez. The crazy wee fucker could score a hat trick at the lane then lose his marbles, bite Dawsons face off and take a dump on the pitch. It'd be brilliant!
As I said earlier in this thread...............
If Suarez does end up at the Goons, I can't think of a better fit for a player and a club.
They are made for each other, both big twats.
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bit like John terry and Chelscum
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bit like John terry and Chelscum
Hard to compare 8), JT has had his issues, but we didn't pay £40 million+ for him. JT's positives far outweight any negatives, plus he is now a reformed character ;) and is near the end of his career .
If you do get to sign the buck teeth wanker, you have years and years of him embarrassing your football club, and at best he gets fucked off after a year as you win fuck all, and wants a move to a big club, after seeing you're a small club that consistantly sell their best players.....
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Nicked from paddypower.. ;D ;D
After days of speculation, Willian finally decides on the club for him...
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1234439_10151793433024914_1927025610_n.jpg)
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Di Maria fee agreed it is rumoured, just working on the player. Cabaye on his way too, Flamoney welcomed back and then the striker issue - Benzema??
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Wasn't the Higuain fee agreed also? Wouldn't get too excited yet. Plus the Cabaye deal hinges on whether he is willing to change his first name to Pani.
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Martinez slams transfer window (http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11667/8895092/everton-manager-roberto-martinez-slams-transfer-window-after-baines-reports).
I agree with someone in the comments there. Why the fuck is there a transfer window anyway..? I can't see why clubs can't make signings whenever they want like they used to.
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Apparently Sky Sports are saying that a deal for Mata to go to United is close to being done. Where the fuck are we going to play him..? :-\ Chelski want the Roonster as part of an exchange deal but I can't see that happening. We're going to have the Roonster and Van Persil up front if they're both fit. Unless Moyes has plans to have him playing in the hole behind the front two..? ???
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Fucking hell, Moyes has lost the plot. Sky have just said we've signed him for £40m :o
Waiting for official confirmation. :o
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£40 million hopefully to spend on a decent striker. Thank you very much, we'll take that. Moyes is one hell of a wheeler dealer.
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Quite annoying as it works out a good deal for both clubs. United get a quality player and Chelsea get big money for a player they didn't even use.
We're in dire need of a defensive midfielder as the game against Villa on Saturday showed. Apparently we're close to a deal with Basel for Mohamed Salah who is said to be a flying winger.
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Chelsea may well be about to hijack that deal for Salah, according to a lot of sources.
Not that I want to burst your bubble of course.
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Be sad to see Juan go, but trust in Jose and 40m is a good price for us, he needs to show intent now and go and buy a high profile striker though 8)
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Didn't take Wenger long to start whinging lol. Says it's unfair lololol.
Sounds like he's getting his excuses ready for yet another season without a trophy lol :P
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Well at least we can all agree we're happy with that idea.
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They reckon that's going to be a confirmed signing tomorrow. Going to be interesting to see where he plays. People have been saying that we're going to play with wingers tucked in but I don't think so myself.
I can see us playing with a straight 4-4-2:
Adnan Mata Carrick/Jones/Fletch Valencia
The Roonster Van Persil
With Mata playing in the hole behind the front two, Scholesie style. Either that or have the Roonster and Mata switch places.
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Chelsea may well be about to hijack that deal for Salah, according to a lot of sources.
Not that I want to burst your bubble of course.
Damn you! :P
Our fault for spending 3 weeks trying to haggle over the price. Then your lot just come in and pay the asking price. Fair play. Hope he enjoys the Chelsea bench/being loaned out to Vitesse.
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Love deadline day.. although I reckon it will be a quiet one this year.
Chelsea expected to sign Luke Shaw from the Saints for 12m Kurt Zouma from St Etienne for 12m
Toni Kroos has apparently said no to United.
Arsenal wont be signing Draxler but looking at loaning Kim Kallstrom
Citeh in for a pair of Porto players.
Osvaldo looking like he will go on loan to Juve for season with option to buy for 15m
Nothing exciting happening yet though.. we need 'arry back in the PL ;)
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The latest rumour is that the Roonster has signed a new deal until 2018 worth 300K per week :o
United are denying it though.
One thing that should also be remembered is that this newspaper talk of player's wages includes they're tax free revenue each week for merchandising thanks to a dodgy loophole in the law that MPs also exploit somehow so It's not going anywhere lol :P ;D
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Plenty of clubs sniffing around Sporting Lisbon's Carlos Mane (http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11667/9172433/transfer-news-sporting-winger-carlos-mane-a-target-for-a-host-of-clubs), including United. The next Ronnie perhaps..? :o
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Apparently Toni Kroos is odds on to sign for united now and a deal has been done (in principle)... Don't rate him personally ;D ;D
Ashley Cole definitely on his way.. I'd wouldn't allow him to sign for a league rival if I was Mourinho.. I think he's got at least 2 more good years in him.
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Kroos is an excellent player. Harv will probably be glad you don't rate him, after all, you probably still think Torres will come good. :P
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Well he looked bloody shit when Bayern played United and Real this year ;)
Wonder how much united are going to pay.. £30/£40m - talk about trying to buy the league ;D ;D
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Personally I cant believe Yaya is threatening to leave city because the owners didn't sheik his hand for his birthday ;D ;D He got a birthday cake.. what more does the greedy git want!
I'd love Chelsea to put a bid in - he's a class player - swapsies for Mikel maybe ? ;D ;D
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The only problem with Kroos is that he has a girl's name :-\ :-[ ;D
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Personally I cant believe Yaya is threatening to leave city because the owners didn't sheik his hand for his birthday ;D ;D He got a birthday cake.. what more does the greedy git want!
I'd love Chelsea to put a bid in - he's a class player - swapsies for Mikel maybe ? ;D ;D
I know, absolutely pathetic. Wrote elsewhere yesterday that he should find out what it's like working for an organisation where the people at the top don't give a flying fuck if you're alive or dead and pay a relative pittance while they shit on you from above, let alone wish you a happy birthday. And there this utter twat is, moaning because he's been disrespected with his "the Anzi owners gave Roberto Carlos a Bugatti wah wah" :'( :'( .
I wouldn't give a damn if I was wished a happy birthday if my employers were paying me £250k a week.
Think this video sums it up lol. "yaya has no birthday cake"
http://youtu.be/ioCncd1TDd4
That said, yes the blokes a prima donna twat but him and Matic in the midfield together would be an awesome combo. Won't happen though, he's just after yet another pay increase or a move back to Barca.
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Forgot that this thread didn't have a year on it! Will lock my one :-[
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Apparently PSG have bid £50m for Luiz - we'd be stupid not to accept that offer.. although I love his flair and him as a person - he's not worth that much ;D
Also Gomes is leaving spurs next month after his contract expires :o
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Are PSG out of their minds?
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Thankfully yes. They do seem to like paying a lot for defenders. I think that's three of the top ten most expensive defenders ever in their squad now. However, it's 50 million Euros, not pounds, but still £40 million quid or whatever it works out to is pretty good.
Much like JMAN, I liked Luiz as a personality and thought he was a good player, but to get that much for a player who wasn't a first choice centre half nor first choice midfielder and is pretty much a utility squad player is bloody good business. Not surprised we bit their hands off.
Hopefully that will give us even more spending power to get the players we need to strengthen the areas that clearly need it.
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Apparently Fibreglass is leaving Barcelona and returning back to the Premiership. Can't see him going to United, he'll be returning to arse I reckon. His buyout clause is just £30m too which is surprisingly low, although that may have been done when he signed from arse to give them a cheap option to get him back again.
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Lampard leaving Chelsea this year, unknown if he will retire yet, absolutely gutted :(
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So Costa passed his medical at Chelsea yesterday apparently - £32m move - great news - quite chuffed about this.
And apparently Fabregas to Chelsea is a done deal too according to various sources - £30m - meh, think he's overrated.. and don't think he's a great team player.
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Really surprised about Fibreglass, thought he'd go straight back to arse. :o
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Apparently united are bidding 27m for Luke Shaw and he's agreed personal terms on 160k a week.. that must be absolute bollocks.. unless united are completely fucking stupid :o
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Kalas going on loan to FC Cologne for the season - guess Jose has got someone lined up for defensive backup after losing Cole + Luiz ?? Hopefully :-\
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Well I'd imagine Zouma will be coming in, possibly Omeruo if he has a good world cup, possibly Chalobah. Cologne won;t be a bad place for Kalas for a season. Good league to be in.
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Have been looking at the latest transfer rumours and we're going to sign just about everyone that has been anywhere near the World Cup lmfao ;D
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Yeah and we all know how well that worked out for spurs last year... ;D ;D
Unless arsenal start spending some money, it will be a 2 horse race again next season (Chelsea & Citeh) ;)
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Won't be a two horse race. Us having less games to play is going to do us a few favours I think, same as it did with the red scouse gits last season. And I'm expecting another two or three players to come in too.
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Liverpool weren't in the Europa cup nor the champions league, they went out early in both the domestic cups and ended up winning fuck-all.. yes I agree, you could be having a similar season..
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Liverpool weren't in the Europa cup nor the champions league, they went out early in both the domestic cups and ended up winning fuck-all.. yes I agree, you could be having a similar season..
But they were challenging for the title rather than ending up 6th/7th/8th place like usual. They ended up playing around 20 games less than everybody else if my memory serves me correctly. I can see us progressing quite far in both domestic Cups too.
Wise money would be on a United win for the Premiership next season, even if we don't make any more signings.
I can see Van Gaal bringing in Hummels, possibly Vermin from arse, Carvalho (a better choice than Vidal - cheaper, younger and just as good) and possibly Di Maria too.
Fellaini, Nani and Anderson out for definite and possibly Zaha too but I'll be very sorry to see him go because he's a good player that wasn't given a chance by Moyes.
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The latest rumour is that Juventus have to get rid of either Vidal or Pogba to balance the books. They're believed to be getting £2m from the Evra deal and they've been interested in Nani for a while. If there's any chance that Pogba is going to be available we need to jump right on it and bring him back to Old Trafford before anyone else buys him and builds a team around him.
We never should have let him go tbh.
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The latest rumour about Pogba is that he has been seen in Chelsea :o
I'll be seriously pissed off if he goes to Chelski >:( >:( >:(
That will also scupper our bid for Vidal, although I'd prefer us to be signing Carvalho tbh. There's also talk that we've agreed a deal with Di Maria for 150K per week but haven't agreed a price for Real Madrid which is a bit odd :-\
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Cavani has said he wants to play in the Premiership. Time for United to put a bid in.
We've also secured decent transfer funds from next season for 10 years under the FFP rules too. We've agreed a 750m kit deal with Adidas after Nike turned their noses up for a renewal.
Van Gaal has another £140m to spend this season. I can see us going for Vermin which is going to leave arse well and truly screwed, another left back (although I'd prefer giving Blackett a shot in the first team squad as backup for Shaw), Vidal, Di Maria and Cavani.
I think Welbeck will go to Real Madrid according to rumours, Evra to Juventus and we'll also offload Young, Nani and Anderson.
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Forgot to say how happy I am with the new kit deal. Forget about the money - it's a good deal because our kit designs since we started with Nike have been pretty poor. We always had better designed kits with Umbro and Adidas. 8)
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Looks like Antonio Conte has thrown a hissy fit and quit as manager of Juventus, rumoured to be because the Old Lady have accepted a bid from us for Vidal. Carvalho is still a better signing for me personally but will be happy with Vidal if he joins United.
Tabloids are letting their imaginations run wild since we've sorted out that 750m quid kit deal, we're now supposed to be attempting to hijack Real Madras' £63m bid for James Rodriguez lol ;D
The Di Maria deal is still on or off depending on what paper you're reading.
I can see us signing Vidal, Di Maria, Hummels, Blind and possibly Depay before the window closes. There is also talk of us signing Strootman in January if he can get over his ACL injury by then.
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Looks like we're also sniffing around Raphael Varane from Real Madras too according to a Froggy newspaper. A bargain at €30m :o 8)
Probably a load of old bollocks though lol. I remember around 10 years ago that I added up all of the players' values that newspapers were claiming we were supposed to be signing and it came to over £400m...and that was when £400m was a ridiculous amount of money lol :P
It's amazing how inflation affects things over years gone by. When you watch a police series from the 70s and there's a wage snatch on or a kidnapping, £50,000 was enough to buy you a couple of VERY large houses :o ;D
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Just watched his first press conference. Says he's going to have a look at the players there for a few weeks before he makes any more signings. Won't take long for him to work out that a few of them need to be shown the door lol. Just hope we don't miss out on too many signings due to the delay.
People still keep on saying it's going to take time to get United back to winning trophies too. Very odd. Like I've said before the squad that ended up in 7th place last season is practically the same as the squad that walked the Premiership the season before last by a ridiculous 11 points...and we'll be playing around 20 games less than everyone else with a manager that has plenty of tactical nouse. I'm pretty confident that we're going to win the Premiership next season. 8)
Going to be interesting to see what sort of formations we'll be playing next season. Could be looking at 3-4-3 like Holland did for most of the World Cup:
De Gea
Jones Smalling Evans
Rafael Carrick Herrera Shaw
Roonster Van Persil Welbeck
And obviously you could bung plenty of alternatives in there too.
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United to finish 4th or 5th next season I think... arsenal will definitely finish above you again ;)
It only takes 13 games to win the CL from the group stage by the way, so not sure where you get 20 from.. unless you think you'll bale out in all the cups early on... (you will)
And Chelsea and City both played more games than United last season and finished above them, so it doesn't really make that much difference because all the top teams have a sufficient squad to deal with it.
And that squad you keep harping on about... other teams got better, significantly better last season... hence why you got dicked in every single game against the big boys.. apart from a 1-0 against arsenal, the 2nd highest team you beat last season in home or away fixtures was stoke.. who finished 9th.
Jose to win it next season.. Costa to win golden boot - you heard it here first ;)
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I expect Chelsea to win the league but Costa will flop. City, Arsenal and Liverpool will make up the rest of the top 4 with United finishing 5th.
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My bad, I was thinking about Liverpool last season not being in the Europa League. Still less games anyway. ;)
The problem that United had last season was Moyes. And that problem has gone. We've now got a manager that has plenty of tactical nouse, who's quite capable of giving players the hairdryer treatment and isn't afraid of substituting big name players when the need arises. He's confident, he's won trophies with some of the biggest clubs in world football and has just surprised everyone by leading Holland to third place in the World Cup. Under Van Gaal we'll go back to playing football the Manchester United way - positive, fast-paced, attacking football. 8) ;D
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I expect Chelsea to win the league but Costa will flop. City, Arsenal and Liverpool will make up the rest of the top 4 with United finishing 5th.
If Costa flops, Chelsea will not win the league, unless you think Torres will finally come good and fire us to glory (where's the flying pig emoticon when you need one).
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I have nightmares about United buying Torres lol :o ;D ;D ;D
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The problem that United had last season was Moyes. And that problem has gone.
What happened to that mantra of giving new managers at least 3 seasons ? ;D ;D
And yet you expect straight success from a new one now..
You are the new Liverpool... your dominance is over... I know its hard.. but get used to it hey ;)
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I expect Chelsea to win the league but Costa will flop. City, Arsenal and Liverpool will make up the rest of the top 4 with United finishing 5th.
If Costa flops, Chelsea will not win the league, unless you think Torres will finally come good and fire us to glory (where's the flying pig emoticon when you need one).
Torres will come good, you just haven't given him enough time yet ;) Although since we have got rid of two strikers (Ba & Eto'o) - I still think we need another up top - would love to see Shirley be given more of a chance this season, he had a pretty good world cup and think he's totally underrated.
Felipe Luis signed the other day - good to see Jose replacing players we have lost - squad is looking strong.. and great to see Romeu back in action last night.. I cant remember the last time he played for us, but he was promising.
Is Courtois not going back out on loan this season then... if not, I think this will signal next season being the last for Petr.
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The problem that United had last season was Moyes. And that problem has gone.
What happened to that mantra of giving new managers at least 3 seasons ? ;D ;D
And yet you expect straight success from a new one now..
You are the new Liverpool... your dominance is over... I know its hard.. but get used to it hey ;)
Van Gaal isn't going to need 3 seasons, that's the point. I'm expecting United to continue their record of not going longer than 1 season without a trophy. And that's only happened 6 times too despite Chelski and Citeh having sugar daddies lol :P ;D :P
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United are giving Oscar Borg a trial from West Ham. He's supposed to be the next Gareth Bale, so much so that people at the Hammers keep calling him 'Gareth' lol :o ;D He'll end up costing us around £200,000 in compensation which could end up being a real bargain. Can play anywhere on the left including playing as a left wing-back which will certainly fit in with the way that Van Gaal has had Holland playing recently.
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Didi could be coming back.. as a player/coach I believe.. I'm not complaining.. replaces Eto'o for a year and we get a legend back at the club. ;D
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According to reports United have had a €20m (£15.8m) bid accepted for Hummels. Seems a bit cheap considering the state of his contract. Not too happy with his lack of pace though, but he is a solid defender I guess. :-\
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Apparently Vidal has now stated flat out that he's not going to Manchester, so it's looking like he's going to red scouse git land >:(
Bollocks :'(
Daft decision, Liverpool will end up missing out on a top 4 place next season now that Hannibal The Cannibal has gone.
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Apparently we're putting in a £48m bid for Vidal after the Old Lady have given us a deadline of 2nd August to get the deal sorted. He's a great player but still think that Carvalho is a better bet, he's younger and MUCH cheaper.
We're also going to put in a bid for Di Maria apparently.
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Rumours that Fellaini is going to Napoli on loan, if that's the case then he hasn't impressed Van Gaal too much lol. Won't be shedding any tears if he does go lol ;D
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Looks like we're going to sign either Cavani from PSG or Vidal from Juventus. I'd prefer the latter over the former tbh. We've already got an abundance of goalscoring talent at the club but are lacking a real old school box to box midfielder.
Apparently all that talk of Vidal saying he wasn't going to Manchester was all bollocks. A reporter asked him a shitload of questions at once...bothering him when he was in a hurry, including 'Are you going to Manchester' and he just said 'No no no no no' to all of them, meaning basically 'Fuck off, I'm not answering any fucking questions you twat!' lol :o ;D ;D ;D
Still talk of us signing Di Maria too.
Will be overjoyed if we sign Vidal, Di Maria, Blind and Vermin before the window closes.
Best thing about this Financial Fair Play business is that United have a shitload of revenue just from sponsorship deals before you even start to think about the sales of merchandising. Other, smaller clubs, such as Real Madrid and Barcelona (lol :P ) have to sell a marquee player if they buy one to balance the books 8) ;D
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Woo hoo!!! Latest rumour is that Fellaini wants to move to Napoli, they've bid £15m for him. United should bite their hands off lol. We'll be losing around 15m quid on the deal but that's peanuts to us :P ;D ;D ;D
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Oscar Borg has refused a deal at West.Ham, think we're going to sign him. Nice 8)
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Rumours that we're close to a deal for both Cavani and Vidal and that we're going to sell Hernandez. Will be a shame to see him go because he's been a great player for us these last few years and always works his socks off.
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More news on Vidal, latest rumour is that.he's passed a medical for his transfer to United. Fucking hell, this saga is going on forever it seems lol ;D ;D ;D
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Will not be happy if Lampard joins Citeh on a short term loan... not happy at all.. >:(
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Don't worry, food is bigger over there so he'll come back twice the size the fat lump of lard is already lol :o ;D
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Loads more rumours doing the rounds and one has been confirmed, will give the confirmed one first:
1) United have made an improved bid on Vermin so are leading Barcelona in the chase for him
2) The Vidal deal is on yet again lol, this time they're saying that he's agreed a 5 year deal and bookies have suspended betting this time so it's looking more likely than the other countless rumours to be true lmfao :o ;D
3) The Di Maria deal is also on again because PSG are skint and have pulled out.
Will be absolutely overjoyed if Vermin, Vidal and Di Maria join United and majorly ecstatic if we also add Daley Blind to that list.
The players set to leave will be told on Friday. My money would be on Nani, Kagawa, Fellaini, Anderson and possibly Zaha going, although it would be a real shame if Zaha goes because he's a great player. Feel sorry for Kagawa too but he hasn't lived up to his potential since we signed him, he should have been averaging 15 goals every season.
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Vidal is coming over here for a 'stringent' medical, would have thought that would entail loads of fitness tests, and if United have any sense and want to avoid another Hargreaves they would follow that by bunging in a keyhole camera and having a look around.
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Lmfao, the latest rumour is that Juventus are planning to use the funds from the Vidal transfer to buy Wilshere from arse. They do need to get some money in for transfers out but I can't see them selling Wilshere tbh.
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Looks like we may not be going for Di Maria but Cuadrado instead. He's been on fire for.Fiorentina last season and looked pretty good during the World Cup. No more news on Vermin or Blind yet though.
I can see Van Gaal bringing Blackett and Michael Keane through as cover for the back and bringing Wilson through as a replacement for Hernandez, although we don't know who's going and who's staying yet.
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Lol, now we're going for Di Maria again apparently. Papers are saying we've put in a £55m bid. Not too sure how suitable he'll be for a wing back role though, I've got doubts about how good he is defensively...although as a wing back his defending for the majority of the time will be down to positioning rather than putting in tackles so maybe he'll be okay.
But I can't see us signing both Di Maria and Cuadrado.
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Differing reports about Cuadrado, some are saying we're close to getting the deal done and some are saying he wants to go to Barcelona.
We've got until Friday to end this protracted Vidal saga, and is another deal that according to some is almost a done deal.
We've put in an offer of £16m for Marcos Rojo and he's put in a transfer request saying he wants to come to United. Sporting Lisbon only have a 25% share in him though (why the fuck would a club do that, it's madness..?!!?) and we've only offered 9m or so up front with the rest in installments which they're not happy with.
Not too sure why we're pussy footing around tbh, we've still got £140m left in our transfer kitty so it's not as if we can't afford to flash the cash and pay £36m for Vidal, £26m for Cuadrado and £16m for Rojo all in one go.
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Whoops! The manager of Sporting Lisbon has sent Marcos Rojo home and told him he can rot in the Reserves lol :o ;D
Rojo refused to take part.in training because he didn't want to run the risk of a potential injury messing up his transfer to United. If he digs his feet in and refuses to let him go just as a matter of principle then things could get interesting...I would imagine that Rojo has just added his solicitor to his speed dial lol :o ;D ;D ;D
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arse are rumoured to have put in a 51m quid bid in for Cavani. I find that difficult to believe though, they must be close to their FFP limit as it is without adding another £51m to it. They haven't had a lot of cash coming in from players sold so far.
If they do manage to sign Cavani they might have a shot at winning the Premiership :o
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Aw ffs, apparently the Vidal transfer is off (again). Woodward needs to pull his finger out and start to sign some bloody cheques. >:(
Di Maria deal is still on, allegedly, and we're still in for Blind and Rojo apparently.
The way that Woodward has been sitting on his arse I can't see us signing anyone before the window closes. :o >:(
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Fucking great. Woodward really has to go. I've been giving him the benefit of the doubt so far but now that the deadline for the Vidal transfer has come and gone and Juventus have said that Vidal isn't going anywhere I've had enough.
We could be looking at Song or Guarin as a replacement...but I'm not getting my hopes up lol
Daley Blind is now house hunting in Manchester so it's looking like that's going to get done before the window closes. It's ridiculous though, we should have got the deals for Vidal, Blind, Rojo, Di Maria and Cuadrado done and dusted ages ago. >:( :o >:(
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PSG have just bid £63m for Di Maria. He's good, but not that fucking good lololol :o ;D
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Latest is that we've had a bid of £24m accepted for Mehdi Benatia. I don't rate him too highly myself tbh, Blind and Rojo would be better options imo. Van Gaal has also phoned Rojo apparently reassuring him that he's determined to sign him.
Can't see us signing Benatia, Rojo and Blind though. Blind has been seen house hunting in the North West though, so maybe we will..? :-\
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United are going to offer £50m and £200,000 per week for Di Maria. Looks like Van Gaal has given Woodward the kick up the arse that he obviously needs before he gets anything done. Bloody ridiculous, all of these deals should have been sorted out within a week of the transfer window opening rather than a couple of weeks before it bloody closes :o >:(
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Rumours are flying about all over the shop now lol. The Rojo deal is almost done, am expecting an official announcement tomorrow morning. Some Eye-tie paper reckons we're going to sign Mexes, can't see much point in that though, he's 32 years old...and Van Gaal is supposed to have put an age limit of 28 on new signings. The Di Maria deal rumour is still doing the rounds too, not sure if that would be a good idea though because I don't think that he'll be suited to a wing-back position; but then again I thought the same thing about Young and Lingard and was proven wrong with those two - I think if Lingard had stayed fit we may have got 3 points at the weekend. :(
Still more rumours about Blind and Cuadrado, the latest with Cuadrado is that he could be ready to play against Sunderland if Fiorentina accept the latest £32m bid. :o
Out of them all I reckon we'll sign Rojo, Blind and Cuadrado.
And we're finally getting rid of Nani and Fellaini apparently, Nani as part of the Rojo deal and Fellaini on loan to Napoli.
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Chelski have just put in a £35m bid for Carvalho :o
That's probably our Plan B if we can't get Vidal. I'd say Carvalho should be Plan A myself, he's younger, cheaper, just as good and doesn't have a potentially dodgy knee. And because we're letting Nani go as part of an exchange for Rojo we're not going to be able to give that option to Juventus in the Vidal deal. Still got Hernandez to tempt them I guess.
I just wish that Woodward would get off his arse and be more aggressive in the transfer market.
If we don't get at least 2 defenders, a box to box midfielder and a right winger/wing-back before the window closes then he needs to be replaced. I can see Van Gaal having a few harsh words about Woodward with the press if we don't get players for those positions I've listed.
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Where did you hear that about Carvalho because I think it's complete bullshit. If we sign any more players it will be a centre half or a striker.
Nothing about it on the Chelsea Chat forums, and there are some people in there with their ear close to the ground as it were.
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Can't remember now. One of the tabloids I think. I use NewsNow to get all my transfer news and saw it on there.
NewsNow.co.uk is a great website for getting news from. It has around 45,000 sources and updates every minute or two. I discovered it completely by accident, I also use it to keep track of video game news too.
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Yup, it was the Daily Star who got it from some paper in Portugal.
The Vidal deal is supposedly off (yet again lol).
Carvalho's release clause is £37m apparently, United should have paid this as soon as the window opened. I've said it before but he's a better option than Vidal for several reasons - he's younger, cheaper and not got a potentially dodgy knee.
I can see this transfer window being as disastrous as the last two...or almost, anyway. Last Summer was a complete disaster with just Fellaini signed at the last minute. There keeps on being rumours that we're going to have Cuadrado ready to play against Sunderland on Sunday but I can't see that happening tbh.
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Either Carvalho's agent/club are trying to bump his price up by sticking Chelsea's name in there or the press are just making it up. We hardly need another midfielder and we need to offload a foreign player as it is (though I suspect Schwarzer just won't be registered unless in need of an emergency otherwise). PLus our need is a striker (with hopefully Torres going) or possibly a centre back, though Zouma is a bit of a beast.
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Bookies have started to suspend the betting on Di Maria signing for United. I'll only believe it when I see it given how useless Woodward has been so far. You can't fault him for the commercial deals he's done, particularly the 750m quid deal with Adidas but as far as closing deals for transfers he's been pretty useless so far.
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United have put in their first bid for Vidal - £32m plus Hernandez and they've rejected it. Hernandez has got to be worth £15m so they basically reckon that Vidal is worth more than £47m. He's good but not that good :o
We're also sniffing around Khedira too. Much better option because we know that he at least has fully recovered from his knee injury. Still find it difficult to believe that we're in for Di Maria though. :-\
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Lmfao, Barcelona put in a bid for Di Maria and Real Madras told them to fuck right off. Probably don't want an avalanche of pork thrown on the pitch this season lololol ;D ;D ;D
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Apparently Di Maria has told Rojo he wants to sign for United. We're supposed to have put in a bid of £56m. Woodward will still manage to fuck things up though I reckon >:( :o >:(
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Looks like Di Maria is going to sign for United during the next couple of days, assuming that Di Maria passes a medical and can agree personal terms. Shouldn't be a problem hopefully because we've got loadsa money!!! ;D
He got the most assists in Spain last year (17) so should be a great addition to the squad. I still have concerns about him being suitable as a wing back but he should be fine sitting in Herrera's position while he's out injured for now. Maybe I'm being concerned about nothing though, I didn't think that Young and Lingard would be suitable either and was wrong about that. One thing that will go in his favour is that the majority of a wing back's defending is positional rather than down to tackling.
Sunderland away next, hope they put in a decent performance and get a result. :o
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Some of the comments on Sky Sports regarding the Di Maria transfer are hilarious, mostly from Citeh and red scouse gits. Apparently Di Maria is completely useless, no better than Nani ( :o lmfao) and is a panic buy. ;D ;D ;D
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Two conflicting rumours now:
1) Roma's deal with Bayern has fallen through for Benatia because Bayern aren't matching their valuation of the player. They're offering £24m and Roma are valuing him at £30m.
2) A deal for Benatia has been agreed and in a few hours Bayern will announce the signing of Benatia on a 4 year deal.
If number 1) is true then United need to give Roma £30m right now lol. Signing Benatia for £30m and Blind for £15m should solve a lot of problems. It would mean that we have great cover at the back as well as having Blind capable of playing as a defensive midfielder. Would mean that we won't have to fork out £30-40m for Vidal.
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Do you still think, believe after this Di Maria transfer there still going to buy.
I hope so but can't see it. :o
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Yup, because they need to. We still need more cover at the back and a defensive midfielder.
Van Gaal is supposed to have £200m for the transfer kitty, although that Spanish bloke from Sky Sports said that it's actually £300m :o
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They deffo need a defender and another cm imo.
I want Vidal so bad. Don't think it will happen though :-\
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Latest reports are that the Di Maria deal has been done for £59.7m. Explains where some journalists were getting the £75m figure from, €75m converts to £59.7m.
Going to be worth every penny as long as Burnley don't break his legs on the weekend lol :o ;D :o
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Come on Burnley lol.
Rumours circulating of a Torres to AC Milan deal, #notorres circulating on Twitter from Milan fans lol.
Please let it be true, please pleaseeeeee let it be true.
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Torres is going nowhere. I can't see Chelski letting such an outstanding player go :P
The Telegraph and Independent are both saying that Vidal is going to be signing for United in the next few days.
Assuming that Blind is also on the way we could be seeing the following first choice lineup:
De Gea
Jones Blind Rojo
Di Maria Vidal Herrera Shaw
Mata
Roonster Van Persil
Not too shabby at all 8) ;D 8)
United to win the Domestic Treble this season and The Treble next season. You heard it here first. :P
Of course us on the verge of signing Vidal could be a load of old bollocks, but then if so just switch Vidal for De Jong and we've still got a good chance of two Trebles in two seasons :P :P :P :D
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Several rumours saying United are going to sign Blind and Vidal during the next 48 hours. :o
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I really hope you do buy de jong, not only is he a massive liability, but he's actually shit as well ;D
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Latest rumour now is that Vidal's agent travelled to England yesterday and the deal is edging closer.
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More to add to that now but there are three different variations. A deal has now been agreed. One says £34m, one says £34m + Hernandez and the last one says £34m + Hernandez + Kagawa. I'd say that the second one is most likely. If we do sign him I can't see him starting straight away, if United have any sense they'll pop a keyhole camera into his knee to have a good look at things for the medical. Not too sure if that will put him out of action for a bit though.
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think it would. But best to be safe than sorry.
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Can't see Juventus agreeing to it then. All depends on how invasive it all is I guess. We certainly don't need another Hargreaves :o :(
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Juventus and Valencia have put in bids for Hernandez. Could be an opportunity to get this Vidal transfer finally sorted, although like I said a while back I reckon that Carvalho would be a much better option.
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Vidal has now said he's staying at Juventus. This transfer has been on and off so many times it's ridiculous lmfao :o ;D
Looks like £24m for Carvalho then. ;D
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United to win the Domestic Treble this season and The Treble next season. You heard it here first. :P
Of course us on the verge of signing Vidal could be a load of old bollocks, but then if so just switch Vidal for De Jong and we've still got a good chance of two Trebles in two seasons :P :P :P :D
What's funnier?
Another one of Harv's woeful predictions going tits up, or Villa forking out £8M for Tom Cleverly?
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Hardly a prediction...perhaps you didn't notice the tongue-in-cheekness of my post..? I thought these -> :P may have given it away..? ;)
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i read today vidal agent in manchester and deal will be agreed soon.
but you dont know whos talking pish or what ::)
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No idea mate. We should just sign Carvalho instead I reckon. Valencia have put a bid in for Cleverley apparently :o
Hmmm...Villa or Valencia..? Wonder which one Cleverley will choose lol ;D
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Which ever one he will get more games for. Villa imo, But obv Valencia more appealing lol.
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Also depends on which can afford to pay the closest to his United wage each week. I can see us struggling to get rid of players now that we're probably the only club in world football that isn't hampered by the FFP regulations. I can see a good few players leaving on a free because of the better financial position they'll be in doing it that way.
Latest on Vidal/Carvalho is that United aren't signing either one of them >:(
So it's looking like Blind and De Jong up next for United. A Dutch defensive wonderkid, Timothy Mensah, is having a medical today. Just 16 years old, we're signing him from Ajax for £300,000.
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United have agreed a £14m deal for Blind. So that just leaves us with a midfielder on the shopping list. And Guarin has put his move to Zenit on hold because he wants to join United. Would be a better option than De Jong imo. Vidal would still be the best option out of the lot but I don't think that's happening.
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Looks like United have given Juventus the finger over the Vidal deal, Hernandez going to Real Madrid on loan. So that leaves us with Carvalho, De Jong or Guarin as options for United's midfield. Out of those Carvalho > Guarin > De Jong for me personally, although I'm guessing that Van Gaal will favour De Jong over the others because he's worked with him before and he knows the system.
He's also a cheap temporary option until we spend around £60-100m on Strootman in January who would have been Van Gaal's first choice if his knee hadn't exploded lol :o ;D
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Now apparently we've put in a big bid for Falcao lmfao ;D
Can't see that being true, Wilson will be taking the place of Hernandez in the United pecking order. Best natural goalscorer I've seen in years.
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The bid is supposed to be £51m. Forgot about Welbeck going too. Perhaps we have put a bid in..? :o
Can't see Van Gaal keeping the Roonster, Van Persil and Falcao all happy though. Still think it's bollocks. Wilson and Will Keane should be replacing Hernandez and Welbeck I reckon.
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Falcao to United on a season long loan. That is some loan. Fair play. United still look fucking shit at the back though......
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Eder Alvarez Balanta maybe Harv?
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LOL, That was a suprise but yes what a deal.
I guess they will have the option to buy him after the year loan. With hernandez and wellbeck going thats a great move.
Just need a CB and or another CM imo
Im sure there will be more today.
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Some great quotes/jokes/quips coming in:
Two I particularly like:
On the Falcao loan: "it's a bit like going in for heart surgery and being given a boob job, looks good but doesn't fix the problem"
Again on the Falcao loan (and my personal favourite): Looks like Utd have signed an RVP replacement before Arsenal have signed an RVP replacement.
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Why would they loan Falcao out.. surely he's good enough to get in their first XI ? Great deal for united, but as said, their defence and midfield is still shit.
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We're looking fine at the back. Jones, Smalling, Evans, Michael Keane, Blackett, Rojo and Blind (assuming we sign him that is) will all bedfine for the three central defensive positions. Rafael, Shaw, Di Maria, Blind, Young, Valencia and James will do for wing backs.
Where we need another player added is in midfield, although it's looking like we're going to rely on Blind, Rojo, Herrera, Fletcher and Carrick to cover our defensive midfielder options until January when we can get Strootman in as the number one choice.
Not too sure where Falcao is going to fit tbh, although I don't think that Van Persil is 100% yet so we could see him start up front with the Roonster in a couple of weeks, maybe..? :-\
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It's looking like we're on the way to signing Martin Odegaard from Stromsgodset, said to be the 'next Lionel Messi' :o
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Welbeck to Arsenal. I think he might suit them tbh
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Best deal of the transfer window by far - selling Wellbeck for 16m..
I'm surprised you managed to raise over 16p for him.
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He's a quality player, just wait and see what happens when he starts regularly up front. I'd be happier if he went on loan tbh.
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I swear these people leave these things to the last minute on purpose lol
Deadline has now come and gone. No news on Blind and Falcao yet.
Bloody nerve wracking lol ;D
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Just noticed that the Blind deal has been done. Must have missed that earlier. Welbeck not done yet but they've got an extension sorted apparently. Hope that we've done the same with Falcao. :o
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No takers for Cleverley. No surprise
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We're looking fine at the back. Jones, Smalling, Evans, Michael Keane, Blackett, Rojo and Blind
You lost 4-0 to MK Dons..
Evans and Keane were both playing.
Rojo and Blind haven't played a single minute for united yet.
Blackett has proved in the first 3 PL games he is utter shit
and Jones and Smalling are so shit they cant even get into one of the worst England teams in decades
Yep, looking fine indeed. ;D
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Again, Van Gaal has made big changes to the way United play. The players need to get used to the system. Our build up play against the Clarets showed improvement, and I'm expecting things to continue to improve going forward. We're fine at the back, just wait and see how we play in a month or two. ;)
We've got quite an impressive side:
De Gea
Jones Smalling Rojo
Di Maria Blind Herrera Shaw
Mata
Roonster Falcao
Assuming they're all fit that's the side I'm expecting to see start against QPR. As far as our defence goes Jones has been outstanding so far, Smalling has been a bit hot and cold and Rojo is a world class defender. It's early days yet, but I'm quite confident that we have enough cover at the back, and decent quality cover at that. I'm really not worried. 8)
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Just seen this on BBC sport and the local news, that Basingstoke Town Fc are in advanced talks in signing Ronaldinho lol ;D ;D
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I wonder what sort of odds you'd get on Ronnie being a United player next season..?
We could be looking at the following lineup if we sign him:
De Gea
Jones Blind Rojo
Ronnie Strootman Herrera Shaw
Di Maria
Rooney Falcao
Not too shabby :P
That would leave Johnstone, Mata, Van Persil, Smalling, Rafael, Evans and Januzaj on the bench lol ;D 8) ;D
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Paddypower giving 8/11 on united being his next permanent club..
The Daily Express have reported that Chelsea have set aside £60m to buy him in January ;) Chelsea are 8/1 odds... Woodward has come out and said he doesn't think there will be any major signings for United in January.. so who knows where he will go.
Personally I believe you'll sell Mata whatever happens.. I'm pretty sure he didn't sign for united to sit on the bench.
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Well obviously there's going to be a need for squad rotation so he and the others won't be getting splinters next season lol
Juventus are sniffing around Mata apparently but I reckon that we'll be looking at Strootman in January rather than doing them some sort of deal with regards to Vidal.
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Also, until we get Ronnie I can see Di Maria starting as a right wing back and Mata playing in the number 10 role.
The best thing about the players he's bought is that with the exception of Falcao they're so adaptable.
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The latest rumour now is that United are going to bring Ronnie back home in January and are offering him more than 300,000 quid per week. :o The Summer, perhaps, but can't see that happening as soon as January :-\
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The last Real Madras president has come out and said that Ronnie is 'fed up' at the club now. Time for a 60m quid bid in January I reckon. Put our plans for Strootman on hold until the Summer, rely on Blind to be our first choice defensive midfielder and have Carrick and Fletcher providing cover.
If we did sign him that would mean that Mata or Herrera would struggle to get a regular starting place if we played 4-4-2.
De Gea
Rafael Jones Rojo Shaw
Ronnie Blind Herrera Di Maria
Roonster Falcao
Playing 3-4-3 though will mean that Rafael and Shaw would struggle to fit in the side, but Herrera and Mata would end up getting a place:
De Gea
Jones Smalling Rojo
Ronnie Blind Herrera Di Maria
Mata
Roonster Falcao
Both options look good to me, but we'll have to wait and see how things develop at the back when we're finally able to field a regular back line for 5 or 6 games.
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Latest rumour is that Ancelotti wants to swap Bale for Di Maria because he's tactically clueless lmfao :o ;D
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More rumours:
- De Gea has snubbed Real Madras and will sign a new deal at United until 2020
- United have won the race to sign Hummels
- United are going to put in a £90m bid for Bale (not going to happen lmfao)
- United are going to sign Cuadrado
Probably all a load of old bollocks, but I'd love the first two and the last one to be true. Cuadrado would be a much better signing, he's just as good and a great deal cheaper.
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Torres joining ac Milan on perm deal in January :'(
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Apparently Messi has demanded a meeting with the Barcelona directors today, he's not a happy bunny. Time to put in a 100m bid I think. 8)
Not too sure what the problem is though, he's got the raging hump with the manager for some reason. We've still got around £150m in the transfer kitty left from the Summer. Can't let an opportunity like this go to waste. We're the only club in Europe that will be able to afford to pay his wages and the transfer fee without letting anyone else go.
Gotta love those FFP regulations. ;D
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Looks like he'd rather go to the best team in the premier league though ;)
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You can't afford him or his wages though ;)
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We can't afford him.. ? ;D ;D ;D
Whilst the FFP currently favours teams with bigger turnovers and profits.. as soon as UEFA tweak it to look at debt reduction, united will be fucked.
Messi will never leave, so its all beside the point.. but I can't see him wanting to go to a team that is not in the champions league ;D
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Given that the majority of clubs have debts I can't see UEFA tweaking that. You'd have absolutely nobody being able to spend any money...they would be insane to do that. Anyway, our debt is only around £300m now I think.
We've still got £150m to spend during this transfer window and will probably have £200m to spend in the Summer and Winter transfer windows following.
And United won't have any problems attracting Messi, even without Champions League football. Apart from United and Real Madrid any other club after Barcelona is going to be a step down.
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Well whats fair about the financial aspects of a club going further into debt yet still splashing out money on players ? The FFP is not just to stop money-laden clubs buying all the best players for the most money, its to help and stop clubs from going into administration too. Cant see why UEFA would dismiss that idea to be honest.
If united don't have any problems attracting Messi.. why are all the transfer rumours about him moving to Citeh or Chelsea ? ;)
We all know, Chelsea have won more trophies than united in the last decade.. and its been that way for a while.. you have a big club with history.. that doesn't make you attractive in the here and now if you've won jack shit for the past few seasons ;D Why do you think Hazard (one of the best footballers in the world) chose Chelsea ? ;)
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Past few seasons.. ? We haven't gone longer than one season without a trophy since 1990 lol. Even in our transition period, where we didn't win the Premiership for three seasons we won 2 trophies lololol ;D
United are arguably the biggest club in world football, they're certainly in the top three with Barcelona and Real Madras. After leaving any one of those three clubs, going to any other club that isn't the other two is a step down.
And our debt isn't bigger, it's getting smaller. It's down to less than £350m now.
United have never had and will never have problems attracting big players, even without Champions League football. We've proven that by signing Di Maria and Rojo, two World Cup Finalists.
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United are arguably the biggest club in world football, they're certainly in the top three with Barcelona and Real Madras. After leaving any one of those three clubs, going to any other club that isn't the other two is a step down.
But there is a huge difference between biggest and best clubs though.. It could be argued that Barca and Real are two of the best clubs in the world.. you'd just get laughed at if you tried to argue that for united. You aren't even the best club in Manchester at the moment lol.
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United haven't gone longer than one season without a trophy since 1990, and that's only happened 5 or 6 times in that time. The only thing that United haven't won enough of is the Champions League. 8)
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Knew we shouldn't of sold Torres ;D ;D ;D
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Lol, PSG want £112m for Marquinhos. He's good but not that fucking good lololol :o ;D ;D ;D
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Not so much a rumour. Confirmed by sky. Chelsea in talks for Cuadardo. Nuts. Do they really need him??
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Think Schurlle could be on his way, which is a shame, Jose wont let a first teamer go without a replacement
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Not so much a rumour. Confirmed by sky. Chelsea in talks for Cuadardo. Nuts. Do they really need him??
Not confirmed by Sky at all, they're just repeating the rumour that originated in (I think) The Sun.
We've apparently put in a £61m bid for Pogba. Never should have let him go tbh, would be great to have him back. I'd also love us to sign Cuadrado, we could do with a decent right winger. Van Gaal said a while back that he started with 3-4-3 because United don't have wingers of the quality of Di Maria. Now we've got him we're just one right winger short. Think we need to get rid of Valencia, he doesn't take on and beat defenders the way he used to.
I'll be happy with Hummels, Cuadrado and Pogba joining United either this month or in the Summer...although Hummels doesn't have a great deal of pace he'll be a good leader at the back.
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United won't sign anyone decent in this window.. they are not in the champions league. Top players like to be playing at the top level.. simple as.
Its been reported that De Gea has agreed terms with Real though.. so I expect Valdes to start against Cambridge ;)
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That's why I said 'or in the Summer' ;)
We'll have to wait and see what happens with De Gea, Van Gaal was confident that he's going to sign a new deal a few weeks ago so I'm not paying too much attention to rumours at the moment. His family is happy in Manchester and he has several close friends at United.
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Yeah but Real Madrid are in the champions league, and they are richer and a bigger club than united... surely by your own reckoning earlier in this thread.. this move would be a step-up for de gay ;)
And you haven't sold Linda yet and it was a bit strange he got Valdes in wasn't it.. maybe de gay had already said to Van Gaal he wanted to leave ;D
You'd be in the bottom half of the table if it wasn't for some of his saves this season.. I'm sure there are going to be quite a few irate united fans if he leaves and your form starts declining... Van Gaal's head will be nicely placed on the chopping block should this happen ;D ;D
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United will be in the Champions League next season and I doubt that De Gea will be going in January. 8)
As for being a step up, I didn't actually say that. I said that after United any other club apart from those 2 would be a step down. I personally put Real Madrid and Barcelona on the same level as United. ;)
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Bit weird why Van Gaal didn't confirm De Gay would be starting against Cambridge in his press conference wasn't it ;) lol ;D
And Real have won way more trophies than United, are richer than united and have a bigger stadium than United...
So if you put them at the same level.. I'll put Chelsea at the same level too... we seem to beat all 3 of you recently on a regular basis for a start ;)
vs United W4, D3 in last 7
vs Barca W2, D5 in last 7
vs Real W2, D1 (only played each other 3 times)
(competitive games only)
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Not weird at all, I'm expecting Valdes to start tomorrow night. De Gea needs to be rested.
And if De Gea does go you can put your house on United buying a world class replacement. The Glazers are going to be selling the club sometime during the next 5 years imo, and they want two world class players in every position to increase the value of the club. Wouldn't surprise me if they eventually sell up for over £3bn.
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Lol, Pogba's price tag in some tabloids has now reached £75m :o
Pogba would be a better buy than Strootman I think but even £60m was pushing it. Not going to be happy if we spend more than £60m on him. :-\
Such a pain in the arse that Fergie let him go for next to nothing, although maybe getting dumped by United spurred him on to success at Juventus..?
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I heard last night that Cuadrado had signed for Chelsea.. although nothing official until the next 24 hours I reckon.. Salah going on loan for the rest of the season.. and I imagine Schurrle will be sold before the end of the transfer market.
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Looks like Darren Fletcher is going to Wet Spam.. Strange, sure Van Gaal said he was 1 of his 3 captains and wouldn't be sold a few weeks back
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Well Fletch was obviously not happy with the amount of time he was getting on the pitch at United. Best of luck to him, a great servant to United over the years.
We've signed a 20 year old from Salford City, a right back. Going to be interesting to see how he does with the U21 side. Could be a real Roy Of The Rovers story :o
We need some cover at right back, Rafael can't stay fit for more than 5 minutes and Valencia has gone right downhill during the last couple of years. For the Summer United need a right back, a leader at the back, a defensive midfielder and a right winger.
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Aw bollocks, Van Gaal has now said during the embargoed part of his press conference today that it's possible that De Gea may not be able to resist the lure of Real Madrid. :( Wonder what's changed during the last few weeks..? :o :-\
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Looks like united are not buying anyone.. surely that makes your squad weaker now harv... Linda is supposedly going, Anderson going, Zaha going and nobody wants Fletcher or Cleverley - not even United lol ;D
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lolol..
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Lmfao ;D ;D ;D
The squad is fine mate. I don't think there's another squad in the Premiership that would deal with 58 injuries so far this season so well. United sitting in 3rd place is nothing short of remarkable tbh.
Van Gaal's 'process' has been seriously held up by these injuries, the side is probably in the stage of development that Van Gaal was expecting to see in October or maybe November. You can certainly see things starting to take shape now, he started off increasing our possession, then improving our defensive duties throughout the team, then our passing accuracy and movement and now he's working on our pace and penetration.
Once we manage to get an extended run of having a full strength side playing, particularly at the back, we're going to surprise a few people.
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You mean you don't blame Van Girl for your injuries.. ? And you don't blame Van Girl for not getting the right cover for the right positions ?? ;D ;D
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Nope. It's just an unlucky run. And we've plenty of cover for injuries, and good quality cover at that - our Premier League position says so. We've certainly been helped by our Yoof system being so good.
We need another right back, another central defender, another defensive midfielder, a right winger and maybe another striker, although I think that we're going to buy Falcao in the Summer myself.
The latest rumour now is that Di Maria wants to leave because his missus is still having the screaming hab dabs over the attempted break-in of their mansion. >:(
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How come your of the opinion you need so many players.. when Fergie won the title last time.. he didn't need all those extra players lol... you peddled that argument for a while yourself.... Your strike-force if anything is better now than when Fergie left it to Moyes... and now you need another striker ?? Over £210m spent on players since Fergie retired and your team look a lifetime away from winning the league again.
Maybe Van Girl is just a shit manager and cant motivate the players properly ? You best hope you don't waste all that money on Falcao.. he's not exactly lit up the premier league, and for someone on nearly 300k a week.. you expect a bit better.. even Bale isn't on that much lol.
I expect another heavy spending spree from united in the summer.. no doubts about it.. although miss out of the top 4 and you can forget any player worth his salt joining lol.
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We've lost several players from the squad since we won the Premiership 21 months ago.
Valencia has gone downhill during the last couple of seasons. He rarely takes on and beats players anymore and has lost about a yard of pace. He's handy to have as cover for Rafael but I'd rather have McNair playing there when Rafael isn't available.
We need a leader at the back, although now we've been able to field the same central defenders for a few consecutive matches for the first time this season, Jones and Rojo seem to be forming a good partnership. I'm expecting Hummels to be joining in the Summer seeing as Dortmund are going down the toilet.
We need a world class right winger, as I've already said Valencia isn't performing well and hasn't done for a while and neither the Roonster or Fellaini are wingers.
We need another defensive midfielder because Carrick isn't getting any younger, Blind isn't going to be available every week and we need cover.
And I didn't say we needed another striker, I said we'd need another striker if we don't buy Falcao in the Summer. Falcao may not have 'lit up the Premier League' but he's had injury problems and has scored 4 goals and had 3 or 4 assists in 11 starts which isn't bad at all.
And Van Gaal isn't a shit manager, as I've said getting United in 3rd place with 58 injuries so far this season, and being the third top goalscorers and having the third best defensive record in the Premiership so far is nothing short of remarkable. That's why there's nothing wrong with our squad, or our manager - there's no way that Chelski, City, arse or the red scouse gits would be as high in the table as we are if they had 58 injuries to deal with so far.
And of course we're going to spend big again. I'm expecting us to have another £250-300m transfer kitty in the Summer, the income lost from not having Champions League football this season should be offset by the extra commercial deals we've made this year and the extra shirt sales from signing the likes of Di Maria and Falcao, two big name world class players that many also thought would never join a club without Champions League football. United are arguably the biggest club in the world, they always have and always will attract big name players whether they've qualified for the Champions League or not.
It isn't a coincidence that United started spending big after old man Glazer snuffed it. The sons want to sell up and using the club's money to buy Gaalacticos increases the value of the club. When they do sell up they're going to have to use £300m of that money to pay their debt off, that's why the old man turned down a couple of offers of £1bn years ago (although back then their debt was around £600m so they only would have got £400m in their pockets). I'm expecting them to sell up if they get an offer of £3bn or more, not a bad bit of business lol. :o I'm expecting the club to be Glazer free sometime during the next few years.
I also wouldn't put it past the side to beat City to 2nd place. We're only 5 points behind.
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Latest rumour is that we're going to sign Memphis Depay in the Summer so that would be our world class winger sorted out. Completely forgot about him :o
There's also talk of us signing Alves but at 31 years old I reckon he's too old, would prefer us having the choice of Rafael, Valencia or McNair myself.
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I read that United are looking @ Jordy Clasie in the summer. Opinions harv?
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He's already turned down any Premiership interest and signed a new deal with Feyenoord. A good player but he'll probably stay in Holland for another season or two.
I'd rather we brought Pogba back home tbh now that Strootman is out for the season. We're also supposed to be sniffing around Nainggolan from Roma too. Pogba would be my first choice.
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Meh, the press are over-hyping Van Gaal's comment that McNair could be United's right back for the next 10 years. He wasn't being literal at all, he was just saying that if McNair takes his chances and continues to impress then he could be a regular starter. He's another handy bendy player that Van Gaal likes to have - he can play either left or right back, as a center back or as a defensive midfielder. Funnily enough I think his strongest position is as a defensive midfielder but with Carrick, Blind and whoever we sign in the Summer he probably won't get to play there.
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More talk of United buying Depay. If we get Depay and Pogba in the Summer it will allow Van Gaal to field his favoured 4-3-3 formation with Depay, Di Maria and Falcao as the focal point of attack. United would be unstoppable. :o
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Now rumours of both Bale and Ronnie leaving Real Madras lmfao ;D
Can't see them both going, Ronnie doesn't seem to be a happy bunny there lately though. Depay or Ronnie..? Tough decision. Sod it, why don't we just get both..? lololol ;D
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Reports saying we've agreed a deal for Gundogan for £20.5m, a bit of a risky buy if true though given the state of his back. :-\
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Gundogan isn't signing an extension to his contract so he's up for grabs this Summer. A bit of a risk though given his back issues but worth a gamble for around £20m. He's one of the select few midfielders in the world with a passing range and accuracy on the same level as Carrick.
Plus it would be cool to sign him just because his surname sounds like a Japanese anime or video game lol ;D
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Southampton have given Clyne a 10 day deadline to sign a new deal apparently.
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United have agreed on a £25m deal for Memphis with PSV, he's having a medical as soon as the window opens. Fantastic signing. Four years plus the option of a further year after that. A great bit of business.
Hopefully we're going to sign Clyne, Marquinos, Gundogan, Bale and Ings next.
I can see Di Maria going to PSG and Marquinos going the other way as part of the deal, and it wouldn't surprise me to see Adnan going to PSV on loan too.
Here's what I can see happening...
In: Clyne, Marquinos, Gundogan, Memphis, Bale and Ings.
Out: Evans, Rafael, Cleverley, Nani, Hernandez, Falcao
I think De Gea will eventually sign a new deal. I fucking hope so anyway lol ;D
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I would love to see Cristiano back in the prem 8)
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Looks like Hummels is staying at Dortmund :o
And there's talk of Van Persil going to Juventus and Monaco interested in Falcao going to Chelski on loan. Would be a good signing imo, after being a flop at United I can see him scoring a shitload of goals next season wherever he ends up.
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Looks like we're after Otamendi now that Hummels is out of the picture. There's also rumours that we're after Sterling too, hope that's bollocks because he's not good enough imo. :-\
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Apparently United are still confident about signing Hummels. Still not convinced he's quick enough for Premiership football tbh. I'd rather we signed any one of Marquinos, Laporte or Varane to add to Otamendi.
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Loads of journalists are saying that we're after Pigsticker from Bayern Munich. Gundogan would be a better bet, Pigsticker is only 3 years younger than Carrick so isn't going to be a long term replacement for Carrick. A bit more of a risk but he has a much better passing range and a better reader of the game imo.
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Apparently arse have agreed a deal for Vidal :o
A bit of a risk but if he stays fit then arse could be looking at challenging for the title...and my life would be over lmfao :o ;D
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Hmmm...apparently Van Gaal is confident that De Gea is going to sign a new deal (again! lol).
Word has it that we'll find out one way or the other next week :o
Still, even if he does go we've still got Valdes there. ;D
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Some Spanish paper or other reckons that United have made a bid for Bale for €65m lmfao :o ;D
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Van Persil is holding 'crunch talks' with his agent so it's looking like he's on his way out. So we could be looking at 3 strikers going - Falcao, Van Persil and Hernandez. So we'll have 2 coming in - most probably Ings and Cavani I reckon.
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Gaitan and his agent, Mendes, are in London trying to sort out a move from Benfica for him. Plenty of journalists reckon he's coming to United but I can't see that happening. If we were going to buy another 'false winger' then it would be either Bale or Ronnie, plus we have them coming out of our ears at the moment lol :o ;D
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Talking of our Ronnie, PSG have put in a bid of £88m for him if latest rumours are to be believed :o ;D
I can't see them doing that, I know that Platini is supposed to have relaxed the FFP regulations for the Summer but I don't think they've been relaxed that much. They'd need to ship out at least one marquee player for that to happen. :-\
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Gundogan is rumoured to have agreed terms with United and there's talk of Di Maria going out on loan to PSG for a year and that they're going to pay £50m for him after the loan finishes.
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United are rumoured to have agreed a deal for Gaitan for £21m with the possibility of Nani going the other way.
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More rumours. United are going to announce the signing of Gundogan this weekend and are about to table a £100m bid to beat Chelski to sign Ronnie. He's always kept himself in good shape, I reckon that there's another five years of top level football in those legs. Would be great to have him back home. 8)
Probably bollocks though lol ;D
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Latest rumour is that Di Maria has put in a transfer request. Would be a shame to see him go because I think he's going to be on fire next season wherever he ends up at. Probably down to his missus not wanting to stay in Manchester after the attempted break in.
Another one is that Chelski are sniffing around Falcao. Worth betting a fiver that he wins the Golden Boot in whatever league he ends up in next season.
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I agree Di Maria will be a big loss to United.
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Apparently we've put in a €150m bid for Bale and Varane...probably bollocks. A deal has been agreed for De Gea, various amounts have been reported. Might be true. :(
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Aw ffs, these rumours about United being interested in signing Sterling had better be a load of old bollocks. He's fucking useless. :o
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He'd match the rest of your team then.
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We're fine in terms of quality, we won't be this unlucky with injuries again for YEARS, expect a very different United next season once they're able to field a settled line-up for the first time since Van Gaal started the job.
I'd love us to bring our Ronnie back home for next season, we could be looking at the following line-up:
De Gea (hopefully but probably not lol)
Valencia Smalling Jones Shaw
Herrera Carrick Young
Memphis Roonster Ronnie
Of course the keeper is likely to change, and Van Gaal will probably sign a world class right back and a world class central defender as well as a world class replacement for Carrick but that side is pretty sound defensively and there are going to be a ridiculous amount of goals coming from all over the pitch.
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More De Gea rumours. The latest is that United are playing hardball and are willing to let De Gea go on a free. This could seriously fuck up Real Madrid if they end up with a 1 year transfer ban. Then they have the choice of not appealing and starting the ban on the 1st July (meaning they won't be able to sign anyone for the start of next season but being able to sign De Gea on a free transfer) or appeal the ban the way that Barcelona did and have the ban start in January (meaning they'll be able to sign players for this season but miss out on signing De Gea on a free). :o
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You think a player that is desperate to leave so he can live with his family is going to try his hardest for united next season when they are the ones that blocked the transfer ?
You are in a no-win situation.. Fergie would of booted De Gay outta old Trafford a long time ago.. he wouldn't of stood for being at the mercy of player power. Selling all your best players to bigger clubs.. sounds like you're the new Arsenal ;) ;D
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We still don't know if he's wanting to leave anyway, he's alleged to be 'torn' between the two clubs. I don't think he's made his mind up yet.
If he does decide to leave it won't be the end of the world anyway, Lloris or Leno would be good options plus we have Valdes there too. Once he gets around to the idea of catching balls rather than punching them he'll end up being as good as De Gea anyway, certainly as far as his shot stopping and reactions go.
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Reports from Italy that United have agreed terms with Higuain to bring him to Old Trafford. Would be a great signing if true. :o ;D
And it would stop arse and Chelski getting their filthy little paws on him too which would be awesome :P
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Looking more and more likely that Chelsea are actually going to sign Falcao :'(
I hope Mourinho knows what he has let himself in for... 1 shot in target in his last 12 premier league games says everything for me... :-\
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I wouldn't worry too much. After the disastrous season he had with us it's sod's law that he's going to win the Golden Boot in whatever league he ends up in. I might stick a fiver on it when he joins another club.
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More rumours. Otamendi is believed to be putting in a transfer request and United are very close to closing a deal for Firmino.
No news on Schneiderlin, Dourado or Pig Sticker yet. I'm hoping that we're going to sign both Schneiderlin AND Dourado. :o
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The Metro are reporting that United have done a deal to sign Dayot Upamecano, great news if this ends up being true. The 16 year old central defender is supposed to be the dog's bollocks. 8)
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More rumours. According to some reports De Gea is going to Real Madrid but United are interested in Ramos. Ramos is also interested in going to United, allegedly.
We're also supposed to be interested in signing Cillessen. I'd much prefer either Leno or Sommer, particularly the latter. He's going to be the best keeper in the world in the next few years.
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United are sniffing around Ronnie because he's not happy with FSW. Probably bollocks but would be a great signing. ;D
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Here's United's line-up if we sign every player that the sporting press reckon we're interested in:
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Lmfao :o ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :o
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Real Madrid held 'crunch talks' with Ramos this morning. No news on how they went yet. Still not sure if signing him is a good idea, he's one of the best defenders in the world but is a bit of a liability as far as yellows and reds goes. :-\
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United are believed to have put in a £35m bid for Ramos. With De Gea going the other way I reckon we'll end up paying £10-15m for him if United continue to play hardball.
If De Gea does end up going I REALLY want us to buy Yann Sommer from Munchengladbach, he's going to be the best keeper in the world in a few years imo.
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After United have said that they want a record breaking fee for De Gea, Real Madrid have said they want €90m for Ramos lmfao :o ;D
arse were favourites to sign Schneiderlin yesterday, United are favourites today. Gotta love silly season lol ;D
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This thread should be renamed Harv's Man Utd rumours lol
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Not my fault that none of you are taking part lol :o ;D
Apparently Ronnie isn't a happy bunny about the prospect of Ramos leaving. I reckon we should make an attempt to sign them both. They're real good mates apparently.
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Chelski transfer news here (http://www.newsnow.co.uk/h/Sport/Football/Premier+League/Chelsea/Transfer+News)
arse transfer news here (http://www.newsnow.co.uk/h/Sport/Football/Premier+League/Arsenal/Transfer+News)
Red scouse gits' transfer news here (http://www.newsnow.co.uk/h/Sport/Football/Premier+League/Liverpool/Transfer+News)
Just in case any of you were thinking I was obssessively visiting hundreds of sites every 5 minutes manually lol :o :P ;D ;D ;D
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How the fuck is Brenda attracting all of these players to the red scouse gits..? It's looking like they're signing Clyne now :o
And they're sniffing around Pedro too :o
Major kudos to him for pulling these transfers off!
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United have upped their bid for Ramos to £42.5m apparently.
And United and Schneiderlin have agreed terms, so the latest rumours say. Will be very happy if we do sign him, but I want us to sign Dourado too before someone else picks him up. Definitely one for the not too distant future.
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Looks like Real Madrid are refusing to budge on their piss taking £13m offer for De Gea. If I were him I wouldn't be too impressed at how little Real Madrid value him. Them willing to wait a year could backfire on them if De Gea gets the right hump with them and signs a new deal at United. Plus the fans aren't going to be too pleased at having to put up with Casillas for another season.
If they're not budging on De Gea I'd assume they won't budge on Ramos either, time to give Otamendi a shout I think. 8) He's a better player anyway tbh going by his defensive stats last season. Not the leader at the back that we've been missing since Rio and Vidic left though.
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The Metro are saying that United have upped their bid to £49.6m for Ramos now, and he's told both United and Real Madrid that he wants to play at Old Trafford next season.
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United may have cooled their interest in Clyne because Van Gaal may be giving Varela a chance of first team action. Zidane was a big fan of his when he went on loan to Barcelona B team. Haven't seen him play but I think he'll play during pre-season. I still want to see Rafael given a go, although young Varela has been likened to a right footed Luke Shaw so that's pretty cool...as long as he too doesn't get injured every 5 minutes lmfao ;D
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Apparently we're well on the way to signing Darmian. Would have preferred us to have signed Clyne though. Going to be interesting to see if Varela gets a chance if/when we sign Darmian.
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It's looking like De Gea to Madrid is happening, they're rumoured to have agreed a €40m fee with United. Ramos is supposed to be signing a new deal with them but as I said a while back I would have preferred Otamendi anyway. Hopefully Woodward is going to make that happen soon.
It's looking like we're going to be signing Darmian on Monday too, but like I said I would have preferred Clyne...although one advantage that Darmian has over Clyne is that he's also a pretty good central defender as well.
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RVP on his way to Fenerbache ?? Huge rumours suggest so..
So that would leave United with Rooney and Wilson up front...
Looks like that title-winning squad is coming together nicely ;D ;D
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And Hernandez when his collarbone heals up.
Looks like Di Maria may be going to PSG, thought that he'd stay myself. Those Nico Gaitan rumours may be true after all.
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I also think that Fletcher from the U18 side may get a shot depending on how he does in the States.
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Various reports are saying that United are going to announce the signing of Pig Sticker 'imminently'. Hope this doesn't mean we're not going to be signing Schneiderlin though :-\
I would rather we signed Schneiderlin and Dourado if we were going to be signing two defensive midfielders.
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Lmfao...Carragher, who was praising the Bitter Blues for signing Milner not so long ago, reckons that United signing Pig Sticker isn't a good idea because he's 30 years old and past his best. Yup. Just like Slippy G who carried the red scouse gits for the last few years lol :o ;D
He's easily got another 3 years of top level football in him and if he does get injured then I'm expecting to see us sign Schneiderlin during these next few days. What better two players in the world to learn to be a number 6 from than Carrick and Schweinsteiger..?
I don't think that Carragher has ever had a good word to say about United lololol ;D
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Brain cells went. Obviously meant the red scouse gits signing Milner from the Bitter Blues lol :-[ ;D
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Great to hear that Rafael is wanting to stay and fight for a place in the first team despite the signing of Darmian. I've always liked Rafael. 8)
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So far we could be looking at the following line-ups:
De Gea/Valdes
Darmian/Rafael/Valencia - Smalling/Jones - Jones/Rojo - Shaw/Blind/Rojo/Darmian
Herrera/Di Maria - Schweinsteiger/Carrick/Blind - Young/Di Maria/Fellaini
Di Maria/Mata - Roonster/Wilson/Hernandez/Memphis - Memphis/Young/Fellaini/Di Maria
Pretty good options for Van Gaal so far, and that's before we sign Ramos/Otamendi, Schneiderlin and Gaitan.
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Whoops! Forgot about Adnan in any of those 3 front positions! ;D
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More rumours. United are believed to have agreed a deal to sign Benteke. Not a bad signing if true but would prefer Mueller or Lewandowski. And Otamendi's agent is coming to Manchester to finalise a deal with either the Bitter Blues or United. And United are also rumoured to be signing every keeper under the sun. Nothing changed there lol ;D
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Romero, the AZ keeper, is having a medical tomorrow apparently. No idea if he's any good, haven't seen any of his stats from last season. 27 years old so he's got experience and possibly another ten years or so in the game.
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Looks like Bayern Munich are going to sign Vidal to replace Basti. A great signing for them if his knee holds up. :o
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More rumours about Pedro coming to United, and Otamendi and Cillessen too.
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Latest is that Di Maria is going to PSG for £45m or so. Mind you, there was also a rumour before that saying that talks had broken down and he was staying at United lol.
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Rafael is close to going to Lyon :(
I've always liked Rafael, will be a shame to see him go. :'(
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Looks like Bailly has passed the medical he had this afternoon. £30m is A LOT to spend on a defender though. :o
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I've heard he's the next Baba Rahman ;D ;D
Mourinho is not afraid to spend money.. and most of the first 11 needs overturning.. expect this to be the first of many signings ;)
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There's also plenty of talk about arse signing Vardy for £20m. Yes, he had a great season last season but his goalscoring throughout his career has been spotty at best. Just have a look at his league goalscoring record since he joined Leicester:
2012-2013 - Appearances 34, Goals 5
2013-2014 - Appearances 37, Goals 16
2014-2015 - Appearances 34, Goals 5
2015-2016 - Appearances 36, Goals 24
So that's 29 goals in 70 Premiership performances. Leicester will be laughing all the way to the bank. :o :o :o
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Apparently, according to rumours, United are going to re-sign Pogba for over £80m. Absolutely no need for it. Fosu-Mensah is as good as he was at that age, can also play in all 4 positions at the back and is more grounded. :o
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£106m for Pogba allegedly :o
Can't see this happening though tbh. I was originally a bit peeved for the sake of Timbo, but now that I've been thinking about things we've got Carrick in what must be his last year for United and Basti who, if he ends up staying, won't be at United for much longer given his age and knees. We could end up seeing both Timbo and Pogba playing as two defensive midfielders in Mourinho's favoured 4-5-1 formation with two defensive midfielders (4-2-3-1 in new money) in a year or two, those two players will DEMOLISH any attacking players lol :o ;D ;D ;D
There aren't that many midfielders that can be called Beasts, and Timbo and Pogba are certainly two of them. 8)
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Looks like United are going to put in their first bid for Pogba, £86m or £87m depending on which sauce you believe. 8)
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They've had a second bid of £92m turned down. Apparently they want £100m left over after United have paid his agent his 20% bonus. :o
Now that's just plain greedy lol ;D ;D ;D
He's reported to have agreed terms with United on a 5 year deal worth £220,000 a week.
I can't see United paying £120m for him though unless that includes bonuses for winning trophies etc.
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Ridiculous amount if true... to think Hazard only cost £32m at 21 years old - and Pogba at £100m+ ;D ;D... don't worry, at least you can sell him to Real for £80m next season when it doesn't work out.. ala Di Maria.
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Yup, but when you consider that shite players such as Sterling and Luiz both went for £50m then you realise the transfer market has gone crazy since Hazard was 21. In fact, I shouldn't have mentioned those two deals, if anyone from Juventus has just read that I've probably jacked the price up even further lmfao ;D ;D ;D
And Pogba won't be another Di Maria because Pogba's play won't be shackled by Van Gaal's defensive tactics and he's as hard as nails so will relish the opportunity of playing in (or more like returning to) a physical League.
The most exciting thing about this transfer if it's going to happen won't be seen until the 2017-2018 season when Pogba and Timbo start playing together. That's going to be the best midfield the Premiership has ever seen, better than Petit and Vieira and better even than Keane and Scholes. And if we can keep both of them happy enough they could end up playing together for 10+ years. 8)
Yup, we're going to be paying over the odds, but we usually do because we're Manchester United and we're loaded lol :o ;D
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Preliminary squad numbers have been announced by United and number 6 is conspicuous by its absence ;D
Still not counting those chickens yet though, it's not a done deal until he signs the contract.
If we do end up signing him we'll probably get the transfer fee back in less than a year through shirt sales (although part of the £75m Adidas doesn't include profit sharing so United will only get ~20% of shirt sales apparently) and commercial deals. He's the most marketable name in football at the moment going by reports, although I'm surprised that Ronnie and Messi aren't ahead of him tbh.
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Sorry I haven't posted much lately. Been knocking one out over Timbo
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If we do end up signing him we'll probably get the transfer fee back in less than a year through shirt sales (although part of the £75m Adidas doesn't include profit sharing so United will only get ~20% of shirt sales apparently) and commercial deals. He's the most marketable name in football at the moment going by reports, although I'm surprised that Ronnie and Messi aren't ahead of him tbh.
One player's shirt sales bringing in £100m in a year.. I see you've pulled that figure from your favourite source again.. your ass.
Chelsea sold more shirts than United last season.. and we only sold just over 3m in TOTAL, you really think we made £100m in profit from that?
Not to mention the reported wage Pogba has been offered is £220k per week... you'd struggle to pay his wages from his shirt sales - never mind his fee.
And where did you get the most marketable player in the world from.. LOL... in terms of global awareness he's well down the pecking order.... even Zlatan is well above him ;D ;D
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I didn't say just from shirt sales, I said shirt sales and commercial deals. Here's my sauce (http://www.sportspromedia.com/most_marketable/50_most_marketable_2016_paul_pogba).
You've also got merchandising on top too. Pogba's name and face will be plastered over everything in the club shop pretty soon, expect him to be sponsoring something major in China for several tens of millions of pounds soon.
Ed Woodward has been amazing these last few years with the commercial deals he's made. He's one of the reasons why United won't bat an eye lid over spending £100m on a player.
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Hopefully we'll have the Pogba deal done and dusted at some time tomorrow. And once that's done expect Pogba Noodles, Pogba Water Chestnuts or Pogba Soy Sauce to be announced soon after lololol :o ;D ;D ;D
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Oh well, not done yet. ;D
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Well he's done an advert for Adidas featuring the United badge so I reckon it's only a matter of time before it has been confirmed...otherwise Adidas are going to look a bit daft lol :o ;D
Maybe tomorrow but definitely before the weekend is over.
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Sorry I haven't posted much lately. Been knocking one out over Timbo
The Sun running with a story that 9 united youngsters have been told they can leave.. with Timbo being one of them ;D ;D ;D
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And the Daily Mail have said they're negotiating a new contract for him. ;)
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Should be getting confirmation of Pogba signing any day now going by the press coverage. 8)
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If we do end up signing him we'll probably get the transfer fee back in less than a year through shirt sales (although part of the £75m Adidas doesn't include profit sharing so United will only get ~20% of shirt sales apparently) and commercial deals. He's the most marketable name in football at the moment going by reports, although I'm surprised that Ronnie and Messi aren't ahead of him tbh.
One player's shirt sales bringing in £100m in a year.. I see you've pulled that figure from your favourite source again.. your ass.
Chelsea sold more shirts than United last season.. and we only sold just over 3m in TOTAL, you really think we made £100m in profit from that?
Not to mention the reported wage Pogba has been offered is £220k per week... you'd struggle to pay his wages from his shirt sales - never mind his fee.
And where did you get the most marketable player in the world from.. LOL... in terms of global awareness he's well down the pecking order.... even Zlatan is well above him ;D ;D
Well they reckon that we'll get £40m back just through merchandising in a year (http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/697397/Manchester-United-news-Paul-Pogba-contract-commercial-Zlatan-Irbahimovic-Ed-Woodward) which would leave £49m's worth of commercial deals to get our money back in the first year.
Would be interesting to hear whether United would get that £40m tax free. I don't think so but players do. I can't believe that Pogba was not only daft enough to give (reportedly) 80% of his image rights to United but also to have only received £7m for them. :o
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Chelsea put in a 30m+ bid for Luiz lololol. I still really like him as a player, but not sure it would be a good move back
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Griezmann has told Atletico that he wants to go. Not sure how I feel about signing him (assuming that we do of course!), personally I don't rate him that highly. He's overrated imo.
We'll hopefully be bringing Michael Keane back home too.
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Lol, we've just turned down a £60m bid from Real Madras for De Gea. Think they're going to have to go higher than that to sign the best keeper in the world. I think that's only beaten the current world record transfer fee for a keeper by £1m if I remember correctly..?
If the silly sods hadn't taken the piss a couple of Summers ago with a ridiculous £15m bid or so they could have had him for £35m.
Going to be interesting to see what happens with this one, if he does go we'll get a decent price for him and we'll do fine with Romero taking over as the number one and Pereira as the number two. We also have Sam Johnstone too but Pereira is a better keeper imo.
And the best news I've seen all day is that Wenger has signed a new 2 year deal lmfao ;D ;D ;D
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Atletico Madrid haven't had their transfer ban lifted so it's looking like the Griezmann deal is off. No great loss as far as I'm concerned because like I've mentioned here before I think he's overrated. I'd prefer Lukaku myself, Chelsea were insane to let him go years ago.
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Lol, we've just turned down a £60m bid from Real Madras for De Gea. Think they're going to have to go higher than that to sign the best keeper in the world. I think that's only beaten the current world record transfer fee for a keeper by £1m if I remember correctly..?
Not even close, the biggest GK transfer was Buffon to Juventus in 1999 for about 30 mill
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Oops, my bad. Thought it was £59m :-[
Griezmann has just signed a new deal with Atletico so that's one transfer down the drain.
Latest rumours are that we're close to a £35m deal for Lindelof, a £45m deal for Perisic and of course there's talk of us re-signing Michael Keane. Lukaku is now rumoured to be Maureen's main number 9 target now that Griezmann is out of the picture, but if we're going to spend £100m on a striker I'd rather we bought Harry Kane...but I can't see him wanting to leave the Spuds.
Lukaku would be a good signing but NOT for £100m. :o
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It's looking like Lindelof is going to be United's first signing for £30.7m, just got to agree personal terms and pass a medical.
We've let Zlatan go but he's going to be training with United while he makes his recovery until he signs for someone else. Latest rumour is that he's heading for LA Galaxy.
We're also close to signing Morata from Real Madras apparently. Not sure if that's a good idea tbh, his scoring rate isn't good enough I don't think.
And Real Madras have cooled their interest in signing De Gea. 8)
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From what I've seen Morata's game to goal ratio is quite high. Seen something on sky sports news comparing his to other United players and I'm sure his was higher than Zlatan's as well. More a case of him struggling to break into that team but that's understandable lol
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15 goals in 26 appearances and most would have came as a sub.. not too shabby at all, I suppose it depends how he adapts to the Premiership and what the players around him can do. Should be interesting if he does sign Harv :)
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15 goals in 26 appearances and most would have came as a sub.. not too shabby at all, I suppose it depends how he adapts to the Premiership and what the players around him can do. Should be interesting if he does sign Harv :)
Oops, my bad. I was thinking about the stats of a completely different striker that we were alleged to be signing. Can't remember who it was now. :-[ ;D
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15 goals in 26 appearances and most would have came as a sub.. not too shabby at all, I suppose it depends how he adapts to the Premiership and what the players around him can do. Should be interesting if he does sign Harv :)
Oops, my bad. I was thinking about the stats of a completely different striker that we were alleged to be signing. Can't remember who it was now. :-[ ;D
You probably are thinking about Morata, his goal ratio prior to this season hasn't been amazing. He's only scored something like 40 league goals in his career. I'd prefer him at 60 than Belotti from Torini for 80 odd, he might be brilliant but he's only had one good season at Torino.
If Chelsea want rid of Costa that's the player Mourinho should be going after.
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God no. Costa is a disgrace to the human race let alone football. I don't want him anywhere near United.
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He's competitive and a winner. We aren't building a team of do gooders.
Would you have rejected players like Keane as well?
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He's competitive and a winner. We aren't building a team of do gooders.
Would you have rejected players like Keane as well?
No, because Keano, whilst being a pikey, hasn't bitten anyone or spat at a referee's feet. He was an old-school 'Hard Man Midfielder', and there's NOTHING wrong with that as long as they don't go over the top.
I don't care how competitive he is or how much of a winner he is, anyone biting another player should be banned from the game for life. I didn't want Suarez anywhere near United for the exact same reason.
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Morata is only 24 as well, got a feeling Real will end up buying him back in the future. Wouldn't be the first time a team has done that.. Paul Pogba cough cough..
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No, because Keano, whilst being a pikey, hasn't bitten anyone or spat at a referee's feet. He was an old-school 'Hard Man Midfielder', and there's NOTHING wrong with that as long as they don't go over the top.
Yeah because what he did to Haaland was so nice, then bragged about it in his autobiography. He wasn't a hard man, he was a coward who cried like a baby to referees anytime someone kicked him back, like the time he tried to give Poyet a kicking, Poyet does him later in the game in return, Keane just ran after the ref to complain. He could dish it out but didn't like getting it back. He'd have been torn apart in the days of the real hard men.
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Well that's Lindelof officially signed. The media is speculating which defender is going to go but I reckon we'll keep all of them just in case we have a fourth season in a row with ridiculous injuries again.
Next up is Morata I think.
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Latest rumour is that Ronnie wants to leave Real Madrid and Spain after this tax controversy. Maureen needs goals, time to bring him home I reckon. His release clause is less than £90m, worth every penny. Give him a 5 year deal and pay him however much he wants. 8)
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Latest rumour is that Ronnie wants to leave Real Madrid and Spain after this tax controversy. Maureen needs goals, time to bring him home I reckon. His release clause is less than £90m, worth every penny. Give him a 5 year deal and pay him however much he wants. 8)
His release clause is 1 billion.
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Latest rumour is that Ronnie wants to leave Real Madrid and Spain after this tax controversy. Maureen needs goals, time to bring him home I reckon. His release clause is less than £90m, worth every penny. Give him a 5 year deal and pay him however much he wants. 8)
His release clause is 1 billion.
Aw bugger, I'm sure I read somewhere the other day that it was around £85m somewhere. Whoops lol.
Still, if he wants to go I reckon we'll be able to put in a bid of around £90m and get him. The players have all the power these days. Just seen that he signed a new contract until 2021 too.
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Latest rumour is that Ronnie wants to leave Real Madrid and Spain after this tax controversy. Maureen needs goals, time to bring him home I reckon. His release clause is less than £90m, worth every penny. Give him a 5 year deal and pay him however much he wants. 8)
His release clause is 1 billion.
Aw bugger, I'm sure I read somewhere the other day that it was around £85m somewhere. Whoops lol.
Still, if he wants to go I reckon we'll be able to put in a bid of around £90m and get him. The players have all the power these days. Just seen that he signed a new contract until 2021 too.
Wishful thinking probably! They reckon £130 million. Worth it.
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Yup, worth every penny. 8)
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Looks like Real Madras want £350m for him, £175m transfer fee plus another £175m to buy out his contract. Depending on how desperate he is to leave Spain we could end up seeing him buying out his own contract himself leaving either United or PSG needing to fork out £175m for the transfer fee. If either club fork out £175m they should be able to make that back in a couple of years AT THE MOST :o through commercial deals.
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What do you mean by buying out his own contract Harv?
You mean his contract is worth 175m?
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Yup, his total wage until 2021 would be £175m. At least I think that's how it works. You would have thought that it works the other way though, if a club buys him for £175m then Real Madrid won't have to pay him £175m in wages so they'll be effectively saving that money.
Maybe if Ronnie buys out his contract then that makes him a free agent and he can do what he wants..?
Fuck knows lol :D :D :D
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Is this like that time a few years ago when you said United were going to sign Ronaldo, Bale and Modric and that everyone else shouldn't bother turning up?
Never going to happen, Real won't sell him.. and even in the remotest possibility that they did...£175m for a 32 year old.. LOL.
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£175m for A 32 year old would be a VERY bad idea. £175m for THIS 32 year old would be a great investment. United would end up covering that transfer fee with commercial deals in less than 2 years, Ronnie is rarely injured, scores goals like mental and will probably go on to play at the top level for longer than Giggsy.
Maureen needs goals and Ronnie is one of the best goalscorer in the game.
Now I don't think it's likely that we'll sign him but if he DOES leave Real Madras then United would be fools not to sign him.
We can easily afford his transfer fee and wages and would have lucrative commercial deals on tap.
Personally I think that both the Spanish government and Real Madrid are going to collude together to get him to stay, he brings A LOT more money into that country than just about anyone else, including a great many businesses.
And I certainly wouldn't have said that about Modric, he's overrated imo.
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Hmmmm...looks like the latest rumour is that United are cooling their interest in Ronnie in favour of Morata. Awful decision if true tbh, I'm going to be SERIOUSLY pissed off if PSG end up signing him instead >:( >:( >:(
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Rumours are that United have agreed a £75m deal for Lukaku - ouch.. I didn't actually want him back at the bridge.. certainly not for that amount.. the guys a bit of a donkey, despite him having a good season last year, only 5 goals against the top 10 sides (I think). Am aware we do need a replacement if Costa is going - but for that much I think you could do better.
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Bloody hell Everton are doing well selling players to Man Utd, Fellaini for £30million and now Lukaku for £75mill. If your going to shaft yourself might as well give them Rooney for free while your at it lol No way is he worth 75million! Looks like he can't be arsed half the time!
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We're paying too much for him but should be a good signing I think. Looks like Morata isn't coming to United now, I guess we just got pissed off with Real Madrid procrastinating over the deal. Going to be interesting to see where Everton play the Roonster if that deal goes through too.
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Rumours are that United have agreed a £75m deal for Lukaku - ouch.. I didn't actually want him back at the bridge.. certainly not for that amount.. the guys a bit of a donkey, despite him having a good season last year, only 5 goals against the top 10 sides (I think). Am aware we do need a replacement if Costa is going - but for that much I think you could do better.
Uniteds problem was putting goals past teams like Burnley, Bournemouth etc.
£75 million is the going rate especially when Torino want £90 million + for a lad who has had one good season and Madrid are after £80 million + for a striker who couldnt score in the Italian league
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Lacazette seems a much better deal at ~£45m than Lukaku at £75m. He'll score goals for definite, not sure if he's the right fit for united although I guess he fits Mourinho's typical mould of a big powerful striker.
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He scores goals yeh, if I were an Arsenal fan I'd be worried at A. the lack of apparent interest elsewhere and B. Giroud starting ahead of him for France.
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How the fuck did arse manage to sign him..? £53m transfer fee..? Where on earth did they find the money.? :o
And he's joined a club that's only won 3 trophies in the last, what? 12 years? And a club with no Champion's League football next season too. Doesn't say much for his ambition tbh. :-\
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£75m is definitely not the going rate.. most expensive British transfer (by £25m) and joint 5th most expensive transfer in the world.. Lukaku isn't worth half of his price-tag IMO.
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If you include the Roonster deal it's more like $100m :o :-\
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Chelsea match Man United's 75mill bid for Romelu Lukaku.
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They're going to have to do better than that unless they're prepared to throw in a player or two as part of an exchange deal. ;D
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Plus Pogba has tapped him up lol
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He is a Chelsea fan though... I don't want him back, think it would be a massive waste of money, especially when we've got batshuayi
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He's having his medical today apparently. They reckon it's £75m plus £15m in possible add-ons plus Rooney who must be valued at around £25m by my reckoning so we're effectively paying around £115m for him. WAY too much imo. :o
Still, that's Lindelof and Lukaku to add to what was the strongest squad in the Premiership the last few seasons. I personally don't think we need another winger, although Maureen is believed to be interested in signing another one.
And no news of a replacement for Costa yet now that Lukaku looks to be joining United. Morata, perhaps..?
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I'm not sure how you value Rooney at £25 million.
We couldn't shift him to anyone else and owed him nearly £15 million in wages, to pass him over for free worked more than well in our favour.
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He's easily worth £25m, particularly as a midfielder. Any club buying him for that amount would easily make that money back through commercial deals alone before you even start to think about merchandising.
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Oops, Lukaku got nicked in the States for making too much noise with a party lol ;D
He's got to appear in court over there on the 2nd October, not sure what that would mean for him for future tours around the world though. Can you enter countries with a criminal record..? :-\
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United have apparently outbid Chelsea for Bakayoko now, offering £40m compared to Chelsea's £37m bid. :o
I thought that we were going for Matic once Bakayoko joined Chelsea but Bakayoko's surgery appears to have put a hold on Chelsea getting that deal done. If United end up beating Chelsea to both Lukaku AND Bakayoko that's going to leave Conte's transfer plans in tatters :o
Costas going, Matic going and no replacements for either one signed on the dotted line yet. If we end up signing Bakayoko as well that would be hilarious lolololol ;D ;D ;D
Whoever signs him won't be able to play him at the start of the season due to that op apparently according to reports...fuck knows how he's going to pass a bloomin medical in that case tbh. :-\
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Well the Daily Star and Daily Express are saying £35m and the Daily Mail is saying £40m.
Probably complete bollocks but if not then Chelsea's hissy fit over losing out on Lukaku and refusing to play ball with Matic going to United could end up biting them on the bum. If they had let Matic go then United wouldn't have had to look elsewhere for someone else. :o
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Well 'Sky Sauces' have said that it's a load of old bollocks and United aren't interested in signing him. That's a shame because it would have been hilarious lol ;D ;D ;D
Tbh we don't actually NEED a defensive midfielder because we already have a top quality one at the club in Timothy Fosu-Mensah. It's quite frustrating that both Van Gaal and Maureen kept/keep playing him out of position. He CAN play in any of the four positions at the back but he's always been a defensive midfielder.
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'Sky Sauces' are now saying that Chelsea have agreed a deal for Bakayoko for £40m and that Matic wants to join United once a confirmed deal is done.
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Well there are pictures of Matic wearing a United training top after his medical so it's looking like the deal is almost done. I still think that Maureen should play some of our younger players such as Timbo and Pereira there instead.
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If its for a reported £40m then you've been well and truly mugged ;D ;D
Can't believe how many of our cast-offs you've got now ;)
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Yup, we've paid too much for him but that's par for the course for United. We have a ridiculous transfer budget every season so clubs whack an extra £10-20m on top of what they would get from anyone else. He'll be a great signing though, and your lot had better hope that Bakayoko is up to snuff after ;etting Matic go.
I'd still be happier if we hadn't signed him and Maureen had decided to play Timbo in the right position though, but it's looking like he's determined to have him as a defender.
Still, anything that makes our squad stronger and your squad weaker is a good thing 8)
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Wtf, arse have accepted a £35m bid for Oxymoron from Chelsea. What is Conte thinking..? :o
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Why the fuck are we being linked to Andy Carroll, he's the biggest donkey around since Heskey - if you exclude Lukaku that is ;D
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Lukaku has scored 18 goals so far this season. Hardly a donkey. :o
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Heskey scored 22 in one season.. so what.. Lukaku's a certified donkey.. for sure.
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Quite funny looking at the stats, Wayne Rooney has a better goal per min ratio with Everton than Lukaku has with United.
Considering how bad Everton have been this season that stat becomes even more shocking :o
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The Sanchez/Micki swap is close to being done apparently. arse are getting a fantastic player in that swap deal though if it happens.
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Well if the figures spouted are anything to go by:
£27m a year (for 4.5 years)
£30m Tranfser Fee
£20m Signing on fee
£10m Agents fee
Its no wonder the others walked away.. :o
Cue harv claiming shirt sales alone will cover that ;D
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I wouldn't pay any attention to newspaper reports about wages for ANY player.
It's going to be a straight swap so no transfer fee. The player will get a signing fee and the agent will get a fee based on the current value of the player. As for wages that wage will include a tax free cut of merchandising (and that part of his wage will differ from month to month) and a taxable cut of any commercial deals (and that part of his wage will differ from year to year).
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Yep straight swap - so you lost £30m of assets instead of money - same deal. Papers are saying its £600k a week now ;)
Bit of a gamble as you've still got no chance of winning anything bar the FA Cup this season and if you'd have waited until the summer - you'd have got him for a lot less and been in the driving seat in contract negotiations - Mourinho knew that Sanchez would probably preferred to have gone to Citeh though, hence why you've been properly diddled and broken the PL highest wage.. AGAIN.
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I wouldn't pay any attention to what newspapers are saying about any player's wages for ANY club, let alone United. These journalists know surprisingly little about professional footballer contract negotiations.
For starters, any footballer of note that is expecting merchandising sales to take off will NEVER want a flat fee for his image rights, he'll want a percentage because there's more money in it for them. Secondly, the merchandising and commercial deals will be separate entities because merchandising will be tax free and United/player related commercial deals are taxable.
And finally these newspapers have added a vague 'bonuses' onto the total too, and for those bonus figures to be included United have to get a top 4 place, trophy wins etc.
And even if all of this nonsense was true, United can afford it because they have over half a billion quid in revenue coming every year.
And yes, we could have got him for free in the Summer but why leave things to chance?
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Fred is rumoured to be having a medical today for United for a £53m transfer. With Carrick gone and Fellaini going he should be a great signing. One of the very few players in the world that can match the passing that Carrick used to do at his peak and he has more pace too.
Rumours of Ronaldo and Bale coming to United keep on coming, hopefully we'll sign the former and not the latter. Ronnie is older but he's in great shape, is rarely injured and scores more goals. Plus we'd end up getting the £200m back and more within a couple of years through commercial deals. He's EASILY got 3 years of top level football in those legs and will probably do a Giggsy and play until he's 40 without a problem.
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The last couple of times I've seen Fred play - he's been a pile of old pants lol.. still he can't be as bad as that wally Fellaini.. surely? ;D
What's this, the 5th successive season you've said that Ronaldo and Bale are coming to United harv… lolol.. you keep forgetting, it would be a massive step down.. not only in prestige, but also money.. why the fuck would they want to do that?
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United, Real Madras and Barcelona are the only three clubs in the world that a player can switch between WITHOUT it being a step down.
And I didn't say that United were going to sign either one, just that IF we did we would be better off signing Ronnie than Bale because Bale would end up on the treatment table for half of the season.
As for paying them, it wouldn't be a problem. We're loaded and have so much money coming in every year that we're probably the only club in the world that doesn't have to worry about the FFP regulations. 8)
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News for you harv... You're not signing Ronaldo... ;D
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Yup. A missed opportunity for United there. >:( :'(
I thought we were going to FINALLY bring him home :(
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Good grief...Bale going to United is STILL being kept alive by some journalists lmfao :o ;D ;D ;D
I guess fuelled by the rumours of Hazard going to Real Madras, perhaps..?
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When there's transfer rumours about signing Rob Green... you know your season is gonna be shit!
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According to reports we've agreed personal terms with Mona. I'm a bit disappointed that we didn't give Leicester the money they wanted for Maguire, he's worth every penny. >:(