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General => Video Games => Topic started by: jman on June 12, 2015, 08:08:50 AM
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First press conference last night from Oculus :o ;D
Facebook officially announced the Oculus Rift and showcased the Half Moon controller (http://www.techradar.com/news/wearables/oculus-rift-announces-oculus-touch-1296411).. also announcing that it will ship with a wireless Xbox One controller with the ability to stream Xbox One games to it!!
Scheduled for release Q1 2016. Link (http://uk.ign.com/articles/2015/06/11/oculus-announces-partnership-with-microsoft)
Next conferences at a glance (Full list with links here (http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/e3-2015-press-conference-schedule-microsoft-sony-nintendo-bethesda-more-1505611))
Monday
3am - Bethesda
5:30pm - Microsoft
9pm - EA
11pm - Ubisoft
Tuesday
2am - Sony
5pm - Nintendo
6pm - Square Enix
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Summary from the Bethesda conference...
Fallout 4 to be released on Nov 10th. Pip boy edition comes with a real life pip-boy and works with your phone - Awesome! (http://www.vg247.com/2015/06/15/fallout-4-collectors-edition-includes-real-pip-boy/)
Few gameplay trailers here (http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/fallout-4-set-2015-bethesda-show-off-extensive-gameplay-e3-press-conference-1506096)
Doom to be released Spring 2016 - E3 announcement + Gameplay Trailer (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-06-15-bethesda-reveals-first-doom-gameplay) - looks fucking nuts.. I can't wait!! ;D
Dishonored sequel announced - Link (http://www.theverge.com/2015/6/14/8773015/dishonored-2-game-announced-e3-2015)
Some kind of F2P Elder Scrolls card game called Elder Scrolls Legends - Trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7VQa-sOlz4)
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Really pleased to see "Dishonored 2" is in the works. I loved the first one. A few minutes after completing the game I started it again from scratch, and that's not something that happens very often. Thoroughly enjoyed my "kill everything that moves" playthrough and my stealth playthrough. Not many games get the balance right so that both playing styles can be equally fun.
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Expecting a Gears of War 3 re-master for the Xbox One to be announced today... apparently some Russian website leaked it yesterday... Link (http://uk.ign.com/articles/2015/06/14/new-details-on-gears-of-war-xbox-one-remaster-leaked) Release date - 25th August 2015.. be interesting to see if this is bollocks or not.. Why re-master only the third one anyway ? :-\
What we do know is that something Gears of Wars esque is being shown later tonight as they have been counting down the days till E3 on twitter for the last couple of days now.
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And just seen Shenmue creator (Yu Suzuki) post this..
Twitter (https://twitter.com/yu_suzuki_jp/status/610110764704141312)
Roughly Translated - "Just seen this at E3"
Forklifts.. feature a LOT in Shenmue... Shenmue 3 announcement... or a remaster perhaps...
Its got to be a troll... surely :( ;D :o
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Expecting a Gears of War 3 re-master for the Xbox One to be announced today... apparently some Russian website leaked it yesterday... Link (http://uk.ign.com/articles/2015/06/14/new-details-on-gears-of-war-xbox-one-remaster-leaked) Release date - 25th August 2015.. be interesting to see if this is bollocks or not.. Why re-master only the third one anyway ? :-\
What we do know is that something Gears of Wars esque is being shown later tonight as they have been counting down the days till E3 on twitter for the last couple of days now.
Just doing the third one makes no sense at all. Very odd if true. Makes more sense to do all 3, and while they're at it sort out the final boss from the first game.
They had the Nintendo World Championship last night, didn't watch it myself but a load of people on Gaf were saying that for the most part all of the people playing were useless and looking like they didn't have a clue what they were doing lol. Should have had Fred Savage making an appearance lololol
Might have to start watching The Wonder Years again and download The Wizard lol
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Just doing the third one makes no sense at all. Very odd if true. Makes more sense to do all 3, and while they're at it sort out the final boss from the first game.
Agreed - it makes no sense to just do the third. Much more likely to be the trilogy all in one.
Damn but I forgot about that boss fight in the first game. Total bloody nightmare.
I eventually had to get the missus to jump in as player 2 (I think she just hid, to provide some sort of distraction and give me more time to beat him). She maintained for a long time that I found the game too hard so she had to help me out with the big baddie. So embarrassing.
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Yeah he was a bit of a nightmare... General Raam I think... I actually found it harder to do with 2 players than on my own though.. mainly because my mate is a complete twazzock when it comes to using any kind of joypad. Always makes me laugh watching PC gamers who struggle to use a controller... having to look down at the buttons, sticking their tongues out and moving their heads as they move the pads lol.
I think it will be a remaster of the first one, but with multiplayer from the third... rather they didn't bother if that's the case.. remaster them all or GoW4
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Woah, native backwards compatibility on the xbox one... Didn't see that coming!
Shame I sold 90% of my 360 games lol
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Fuck yeah, I'm getting myself one of those elite controllers ;D
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That Rare Replay collection looks pretty epic... 10k gamerscore lol.
Was hoping their new game would be a Banjo game, never mind
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Minecraft with hololens demo.
Wow, just wow
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Unless they've fixed the FoV problem HoloLens is going to be as useful as a chocolate teapot. Really annoying that Microsoft come up with great ideas like Kinect and HoloLens but they don't live up to expectations. :(
Even more annoying is that they're not up front about it, they always have their demonstrations being fake which makes things even more of a let down when they release it.
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Just when you think you've unlocked every vehicle on Trials Fusion...
(http://s22.postimg.org/qixifji9t/trials.png)
In case I've not mentioned it for a while:
Damn but I love Aisha Tyler.
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Just seen Microsoft's conference, looking good for exclusives, and only half of their HoloLens demo was fake by the looks of it. The field of view (unless they've improved things) is about the same size as the Minecraft screen that the bloke was looking at at the beginning of the demo. So to see that table top stuff without big chunks being chopped off you'd need to be standing further back a fair bit.
Bit disappointed that the bloke from Rare got a lukewarm reception, probably too many young whippersnappers in the crowd lol :o ;D
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Great to see FF-VII finally getting a remake.
"Coming first to ps4". (Presumably also on it's way to xbox One and pc, then.)
Looks fantastic:
youtube (https://youtu.be/Kznek1uNVsg)
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Shenmue 3..... FUCK YEAH!!!
Just became a backer (my first kickstarter) - just gone for the physical PC game - $60.
Kickstarter Link (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ysnet/shenmue-3?ref=hero_thanks) - although think this is going to get funded today.. it hit $1m within 3 hrs lol.
Also FF7 remake - yeah, great stuff.. who cares lol.. actually it is big news.. but totally eclipsed by the Shenmue 3 news.
Microsoft had a very strong press conference.. but those 2 games have just blown its exclusives out of the water.. don't understand why no major publisher would fund Shenmue 3.. and why (if its releasing on PC) its not releasing on the X1 if the fans are funding it... strange.
This has undoubtedly been one of the best E3's I can remember for a long time!
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So just a summary of the press conferences announcements so far... I might link these to videos later on if I can be arsed...
Bethesda
Doom
Fallout 4 (Nov 10th)
Elder Scrolls Legends
Dishonored 2
Fallout Mobile Game
Microsoft
Halo 5
ReCcore
Native Backwards Compatibility
Elite Controller
HoloLens with Minecraft
Forza 6
Xbox Game Preview (like Steam Early Access)
Rare Replay (Aug 4th)
Rise of Tomb Raider (Nov 10th)
Gears of War Ultimate Edition (Aug 25th)
Gears of War 4
EA
Star Wars: Battlefront
Need for Speed (new version)
Mass Effect : Andromeda
Mirrors Edge (Feb 16)
Madden NFL 16
NBA Live 16
Unravel
Ubisoft
Ghost Recon
Assassins Creed Syndicate (set in London)
South Park RPG Sequel
Rainbow Six Siege (Oct 13th)
The Division (March 8th)
For Honor
Trials Fusion
Sony
SHENMUE 3!!!!!!!!
Final Fantasy 7 Remake
The Last Guardian
Horizon : Zero Dawn
Hitman Sequel
Street Fighter 5
No Man's Sky
Dreams
Project Morpheus
Uncharted 4
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The EA Access app is free for one week only (on xb1, for gold subscribers only) - allowing access to the following games:
Battlefield 4
EA Sports UFC
FIFA 14
FIFA 15
Madden NFL 15
Madden NFL 25
NBA Live 15
Need for Speed: Rivals
NHL 15
Peggle 2
Plants vs. Zombies: Garden Warfare
Titanfall
Which reminds me - I was expecting EA Access to be announced as coming to ps4. I'm a little surprised that didn't happen. I guess it screws with their current subscription models too much.
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The Last Guardian..?!!?!? :o
I was sure that was vapourware lololol ;D ;D ;D
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Don't hold your breath. I don't think they've given it a release date yet.
Probably the back end of 2016, I'd imagine, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's still not out when we're bringing in 2017...
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Might be a launch title for the PS5 lmfao ;D ;D ;D
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Don't think Sony gave any release dates for any of their major showings... bit pants in that respect.. I have been thinking about getting one after that E3, perhaps for christmas... but that E3 has just confirmed that there is absolutely no point buying one until (probably) half way or towards the backend of 2016. A good job really, as I don't fancy paying £300 for what primarily would be a backup console. So perhaps I'll wait for a slimline and the price to be reduced a tad.
The Star Wars Battlefront gameplay trailers are very good by the way.. check them out if you haven't already
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Am watching their conference now, No Man's Sky looks amazing :o
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No idea who produced and directed Sony's conference but they've done a poor job so far. It appears kind of disjointed whereas Microsoft's flowed nicely. :-\
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Call of Duty looks good but I'm really surprised that its popularity has maintained this much this generation.
Should go back to World War II I reckon. They still haven't beaten Carantan as the best multiplayer map EVER imo.
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Lmfao, looks like the person that was supposed to be playing Uncharted wasn't ready lololol ;D
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Heh - yeah, that Uncharted reveal was a bit embarrassing. The game looks good, though - especially the environmental destruction of cover.
All in all the two pressers I've enjoyed the most (so far) have been Microsoft's and Ubisoft's. The former mainly for the news of backwards compatibility and the new controller (but they're taking the piss if they think I'll pay £130 for it!) The latter mainly for the presentation. Ubisoft have gone down in most folks' eyes this last year, but Aisha always kills it presenting their E3 shows (ignoring the incredibly awkward bit with the guy dressed as a 19th century assassin). They also score big points for South Park and Ghost Recon, both of which I'm looking forward to.
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Haven't seen any of the others yet, just Microsoft and Sony and Microsoft's conference pissed all over Sony's conference by a mile. And I don't think it was down to the content because Sony had a few Megatons of their own. I just think that Sony's conference was poorly written, directed and produced.
Have got the stream ready for Nintendo's Digital Event which has just started.
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What a fantastic start lmfao ;D
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Well that was a bit pants. Was hoping for more Megatons. The only big thing was a new Zelda for the 3DS.
Starfox looks cool though as does Xenoblade Chronicles X.
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Ah, it was you. Of course it was you. Yeah, I'd heard there was one person watching the Nintendo presser...
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Have missed everything because Armando, the guy in Flat C, has been fucked for 3 days. Has a problem with his neck and back which they know about, has an appointment for North Middlesex Hospital on the 20th but whatever the fuck it is has moved up his spine to the base of his skull and jaw. And he's unable to move his arms or legs without a great deal of pain. :o
Hope they're going to be able to help him out because me or Kev aren't going to wipe his bum or feed him lmfao :o :D
He's just got carted away in an ambulance :(
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Loads of Nerd Rage following Nintendo's piss poor Digital Event lol
So much so that Iwata has Tweeted an apology.
You can understand that they're busy working on NX projects but you would have thought that they would try and bring some sort of Megatonnage for the Wii U seeing as it's selling like shite. All they had for the Wii U was stuff we already knew about and Animal Crossing lmfao ;D
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Wii U has been selling like shite since it released.. a half decent E3 wouldn't of changed that lol.
Looking back on it... Microsoft had the best conference this year.. loads of exclusives plus some good hardware announcements. Sony was saved by FF7 and Shenmue 3... they were the biggest game reveals (for me).. although neither are true exclusives which is the kicker I guess. The Last Guardian still has no release date and Uncharted 4 is the equivalent of Tomb Raider being exclusive to the X1.
Bethesda was the best 3rd party conference.. although still don't understand why Fallout 4 was revealed before E3... I'm looking forward to Fallout 4 and Doom as much as any of the triple AAA exclusives.
Ubisoft also had a great conference... the stand out for me being the South Park game (although have to point out that Obsidian wont be making the sequel - so it could be a lot different) - it was the stand-out mainly because I was already aware of the Division and Rainbow Six Siege.. but they look great.. and cant go wrong with a Ghost Recon game. Who says they milk the Tom Clancy franchise hey??
EA also showed two great games - Star Wars Battlefront which looks pretty damn amazing.. and Mirrors Edge 2 which looks pretty good too. I forgot they announced Plants vs Zombies: Garden Warfare 2 - I was excited.. until he added "Garden Warfare 2" onto the end.. I still love the original tower defense game.. I wish they would make a true sequel to that.
Square Enix pretty much blew their load with FF7 at the Sony conference.. but then they showed off Deus Ex : Mankind Divided which looks pretty spectacular and Just Cause 3 which looks pretty nuts for an open world game.
All in all, a fantastic conference from all involved... (except Nintendo) ;D 8)
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Gotta agree with most of Kieron's post, there. I watched half of the pressers live, and most of the others later - I think the only one I skipped was Nintendo's.
Microsoft's was great, and when you consider they've got so much good stuff happening they've deliberately delayed several games into early next year* it's all the more impressive.
I checked my xbox One last night (bearing in mind I'm in the preview program so get some stuff early) and there were about 8 xbox 360 games ready for me to download and install on my One. I downloaded Super Meat Boy, but didn't get a chance to play it. Others there, waiting for me to download, included Perfect Dark, one of the Kefflings games, and Defense Grid.
I also downloaded Fifa 15 and Battlefield 4, to hopefully have a quick blast on while they're free.
The Elite Controller looks fantastic. Shame about the price, though. $150/£130 is a lot of money. A couple of websites had it mispriced at £40ish yesterday, and I gave it a shot, but they both realised the mistakes and cancelled all orders. No harm done - worth a shot.
Most of the games Kieron mentioned look great - I'm looking forward to hopefully playing most of them. I'll confess I've never played a Shenmui game though, so have no idea what that's all about.
(Don't forget Tomb Raider is only timed exclusive, K, rather than a full exclusive. I'd imagine it'll hit pc & ps4 around Feb 2016.)
As for Nintendo, I truly hope they had a bad one because they're hard at work making games for the NX. They need to get it right this time. With the U they brought out an underpowered machine and had no real big games for the first couple of years. If the NX has a decent amount of grunt and has a good lineup at launch and in it's first year then it should be a winner - especially if it comes fairly soon. (A lot of assumptions there. Have they actually officially announced the NX, or that it's a full console yet?)
All things considered, that was one of the best E3's we've seen in the last decade, imo (though of course all the big news about the two new consoles a couple of years ago was the biggest). Very enjoyable, and I'm hyped for several games and developments :D
*I'm taking them at face value, there. It's possible there have been unexpected delays on one or two of the games, but I genuinely think they've held back Crackdown, Quantic Dream, and Scalebound because their triple-A release schedule is just too full this Christmas.
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Quantum Break was delayed into 2016 a while ago.. annoying really as its been around since launch.. its slowly turning into vapourware lol. Scalebound and Crackdown didn't show at all, but I'd of thought they will be 2016 releases too.
I'm so looking forward to Rare Replay.. its funny reading comments about it around the web.. everyone has their personal favourites out of it. For me.. Atic Atac and Blast Corps were absolutely excellent. I have to admit to not even playing half of them though... I tried Battletoads this afternoon (emulator) and fuck me that's a tough game lol. Looking forward to finally playing Conkers Bad Fur Day, Perfect Dark (the first one) and Grabbed By The Ghoulies. Would of been quality if they could of got Goldenye and the Diddy Kong/Donkey Kong stuff.. as those games are pretty seminal, but I think Activision own the Bond licence now and Nintendo obviously own the Donkey Kong stuff. Excellent stuff with all the Banjo games on there... Nuts & Bolts is good, but the first two are epic.. I'm looking forward to playing through them again - for me, the first one is better than Super Mario 64 which is still one of my favourite platformers.
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Yeah, I'm looking forward to the Rare collection, too. Nicely priced, too (£19.99 rrp I think) and it looks well presented.
I'll have played less than a quarter of them. Will be good to see some classics I've missed out on. Having said that, there's a decent chance I'll spend ten minutes each on about three of them then leave it to gather dust. Whenever I get enthusiastic about a collection of classic games I usually end up disappointed by how poorly they've aged.
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Me too, but 10k Gamerscore should be a good incentive to invest some time into each.
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They haven't said what the NX is yet. I would have imagined, before they announced absolutely fuck all new for the Wii U, that the NX was their new handheld console. But seeing as the 3DS is still selling a shitload and they've announced a shitload of new games for it I reckon it's more likely to be their next home console.
But that would mean that the Wii U will only have a 4 year lifespan, which I would imagine will result in a fair bit of consumer distrust. Same lifespan as the original Xbox though so it's not unheard of I guess. :-\
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A short lifespan for the U might be for the best in the long run if it means they move their console cycle away from those of Sony and Microsoft. If all three keep releasing new consoles at around the same time (give or take a year or two) then the Nintendo is now in a position where it'd need to be the most powerful of the three to stand a chance of "winning".
If they're out of the cycle and release something 3 or 4 years after Sony/MS's last one and 3 or 4 years before Sony/MS's new one then they should be in a decent position. Natural progression of technology should mean they can produce something that's more powerful than the latest ps/xb, and give them a couple of years of unrivalled console dominance before the new playstation and xbox come out. A couple of great years, then a couple of poor years, repeating like that should keep them strong in the console market for the forseeable future. Has to be better than the current cycle of a couple of bad years, then a couple more bad years, then a few more bad years...
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They should just pull out of the console hardware market altogether and concentrate on handhelds where they obviously excel and start pushing their best IPs onto more mainstream platforms. Their main problem is that they lack 3rd party support and they produced hardware that was too cost prohibitive for the consumer and developer. The main reason the Wii was a success was the accessibility of the system which included a low entry price. Even then, the sales fell out of the Wii towards the end of its lifecycle which was years before the 360 and PS3 lifecycle (and they are still going at a steady pace).
They need to produce inexpensive hardware to attract the consumers.. this will attract the 3rd party developers.. and they will start to do well again. The moment they try to compete with the PS4 and X1 again is the moment they will fail. Even I admit, I'd probably buy a Wii U for sub £100.. just to play some of the Nintendo games. If they think I'm going to stump up double that.. to just get a "basic" system.. they've got to be a bit screwy.
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I reckon that if they brought out something in 2016-2017 (ie a long time before the next xbox and playstation are likely to appear) that was £300-£350, had similar architecture to the ps4/xb1, and was more powerful than the ps4 it'd do well. It should be perfectly possible to do so. With the natural progression of tech, it shouldn't be costly or difficult to release something in 2016 that's more powerful than 2013's machines, and if the xb1 and ps4 are both selling for around £200-£250 it seems likely they're costing less than £200 to produce. I don't think they're loss-leading machines.
You've then got a machine that has full third-party support and the most stable/consistent 1080/60 visuals (possibly even consistent 4k) - plus a load of Nintendo exclusives (assuming they pulled their fingers out and actually released some in the first year). I reckon it'd be a massive hit.
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You don't just release a machine and get full third party support though. Why has 3rd party support pulled out on the Wii U.. because they don't make any money.. the installed user base is too small, development costs are too high, typical Nintendo consumers have niche tastes (instead of mainstream) and probably some internal Nintendo restrictions have a part to play aswell.
They haven't had a console with decent 3rd party support since the SNES - and the only "real" success story they have had since then was the underpowered, cost effective cheap Wii.. and even that had a watered down 3rd party support.
Nintendo are innovators in some aspects and produce some great games... its a shame they insist on locking them away behind their piss poor consoles. Either make it cheap so everyone can play.. or don't bother!
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I think it's time that Nintendo cleared out their entire upper management tbh, they're just out of touch with the industry. Time for them to bite the bullet and start releasing consoles with plenty of power I think. And as much as I love the latest gimmicks such as motion controls and the GamePad's touchscreen it's pretty clear that third party publishers and developers aren't up to anything other than cookie-cutter games these days.
You'll still find third party games selling less than first party games on Nintendo games because Nintendo's IPs are just too big and popular, plus there's a huge gap between them in terms of quality and polish. I can practically guarantee you that the latest Star Wars Battlefield game will be practically if not literally unplayable online at launch, it happens with every DICE game. And then look at the mess that MCC was in for ages, and that was a Microsoft first party title for gawd's sake. I just don't think that a number of Nintendo fans are happy enough with the quality of third party offerings. :-\ I also think that there's also a physological problem with third parties too for the same reason. They know that they can't compete in terms of quality.