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SundayLeague => Football => Topic started by: harv on June 13, 2019, 04:37:09 PM
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Fixtures are out, United have Chelsea at home for the first match, Wolves away for the second match.
Easy peasy 8) :P ;D
Not a bad run in at the end of the season though.
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Buying big name stars like Daniel James has the rest of the premier league sweating on Utd being title conteders again I'm sure ;D ;D
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I welcome United buying young British talent tbh. Maguire will be next I think, plus we have plenty of top quality yoof players coming through our academy.
Now that Pogba's agent has won his appeal we can get shot of him too as long as Real Madras are prepared to pay £150m or so for him.
Chelsea are the side with serious problems though, Hazard has been carrying your side for years and will be difficult to replace.
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According to some of the papers Palace want £70m for Wan-Bissaka ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
We'll probably come back and offer £50m after our previous bid of £40m was rejected on a take it or leave it basis. I can't see us paying £70m for him lol
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And now Pogba has said he wants 'a new challenge'. Both Juventus and Real Madrid are sniffing around, we'd better get around £150m for him!!! :o
I want Lukaku and Martial gone too tbh.
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Well that's the Wan-Bissaka deal done for £50m. I can't believe this has taken so long to sort out. Woodward is incompetent when it comes to transfers. And because we've wasted so much time on this ONE transfer we're probably going to miss out on Fernandes too, the bookies have him odds-on to go to Liverpool now.
Happy with the Wan-Bissaka deal getting done but a club the size of United should be able to concentrate on more than one transfer at a time ffs. :o
Ollie wanted these deals done by Monday when the players are due to come back from their break, fat chance of us getting another one (or possibly two if Pogba ends up going) midfielder, a central defender, a right winger and a striker (assuming that Lukaku ends up going) before the 1st July. >:(
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Frank is home and the bridge is going to be buzzing again, first English manager in 23 years, Hoddle (96), can you believe that, this will breathe fresh impetus into the team, already forgotten about hazard and the transfer ban.
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Losing Hazard without being able to bring in a replacement would normally be a disaster but I reckon Fat Frank will give Hudson-Odoi a good run when he regains fitness. He won't be returning to training until the beginning of August though I think, and then he'll take time to regain his match fitness and match sharpness, so don't expect too much from him too soon.
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Going to be interesting to see if Pogba turns up in Australasia. ;D ;D ;D
Woodward has completely fucked up yet ANOTHER transfer window so far. We should have had the Fernandes deal done weeks ago, the Wan-Bissaka deal took 3 weeks to get sorted and we still need a central defender, a defensive midfielder, a right winger, a Pogba replacement and a striker. Then we need to get rid of Rojo and Darmian AT LEAST too. So that's 10 deals we need to get sorted out (6 in and AT LEAST 4 out) before the window closes on 8th August.
Now we MAY get away with getting rid of Pogba and Lukaku and replacing them with Fernandes and Greenwood respectively and relying on Chongy to play on the right but is that too much pressure to put on two young players..?
And where the FUCK is our Director of Football..? :o
Leicester want £85m for Maguire too lmfao ;D ;D ;D
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Well that's our first pre-season game played and a 2-0 win, goals from Rashford and Garner. Pretty poor opposition but we did manage to get one more goal than Chelsea did last year, although they did have a couple of 15 year olds playing in the second half :P ;D
You can tell why Wan-Bissaka is nicknamed The Spider, his tackling is excellent. Can't wait to see him play against better opposition.
Dan James had a great game too in the first half.
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The Sun are saying that United have agreed an £80m fee for Maguire. £60m up front and £20m worth of bonuses. He's having a medical tomorrow according to them.
They're also reporting that the board aren't going to spend £70m on Fernandes, they only want to pay £50m. A STUPID decision if true, the signing of Fernandes is MUCH more important than the signing of Maguire. Our biggest problem since Fergie retired has been SCORING goals, not conceding them.
Apart from last season, which was an anomaly due to Maureen doing his best to get the sack and his usual massive payout, we've always had one of the best defensive records in the Premiership.
Fergie's last season we were top scorers, Moyes 6th best, van Gaal 4th best, van Gaal 6th best, Maureen 6th best, Maureen 6th best and Maureen/Ollie 6th best.
We need goals, our defence has been good enough to win Premiership titles every season apart from last season.
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Still no more news on Fernandes or Maguire.
United beat Leeds 4-0 early this afternoon and Ollie has said that Greenwood might start against Chelsea for the first match of the season if he keeps on putting performances in during pre-season.
Unless he gets fucked up with injuries Greenwood will be worth over a hundred million quid in a few years. Same goes for Gomes and Chongy too.
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Still no transfer activity for United. Unbelievable. We'll end up losing Fernandes at this rate. Not too bothered about whether we get Maguire or not because our defence has been pretty sound over the years. But we need to score goals, something we've struggled to do since Fergie retired.
Fernandes is worth €60m easily, all we need to do is offer €55m and that should be a done deal.
Such a bloody frustrating transfer window!!! >:(
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Team news for United before the match against Inter in Singapore:
De Gea; Wan Bissaka, Tuanzebe, Lindelof, Shaw; Matic, Pogba; James, Lingard, Martial, Rashford
Looking like either 4-5-1 with two defensive midfielders or 4-3-3 with a number 10, probably the latter.
And the bench:
Romero, J Pereira; Dalot, Darmian, Young, Bailly, Jones, Rojo, Smalling, A Pereira, Fred, Garner, Gomes, Mata, McTominay, Chong, Greenwood
We'll see a few players doing 60 minutes which should give us an early indication of some of the players will start against Chelsea.
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0-0 at halftime, Wan-Bissaka has been looking REALLY good on this tour so far, although our opponents, including a weakened Inter Milan, haven't been that good so far.
The next match against Spurs will be more of an indication of where United are so far.
I can see Wan-Bissaka being difficult to get past and James winning PLENTY of free kicks this season.
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Thought it was only a matter of time. Nice finish from Greenwood puts United 1-0 up.
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Lindelof came off injured earlier, just a minor thigh strain by the looks of it but Chongy has just come off injured now and it looks a little more serious, he wasn't walking off too comfortably. :(
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And that's a 1-0 final score. We were a better side in the second half because Matic wasn't there to slow things down. Chongy really is looking like a class player, same with Greenwood. Gomes came on for the injured Chong late on but didn't have much time to make any impact.
Chongy, Greenwood and Gomes are all going to be worth £100m+ in a few years. Best I've seen out of the Academy since 92.
Another fantastic game from Wan-Bissaka but with all of these performances it should be remembered that United are a week ahead of Inter in terms of their pre-season and they didn't have any strikers lol ;D
Wan-Bissaka was the MOTM, a great performance.
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Also I can't believe that some people want us to sign Skriniar, he's always been a red card waiting to happen because he always hacks speedy players down. Terrible defender.
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Also forgot to mention Wan-Bissaka and the crowd yesterday. Whenever an Inter player started running down their left towards their final third the crowd started going, 'Whooooooooooooaaaaaaa' and then cheering when Wan-Bissaka made the tackle. And he didn't miss a single one :o ;D
We've got a bargain there for only £50m, and we've improved what has been one of the best defences in the Premiership for every season since Fergie retired apart from last season which was an anomaly due to Maureen going out of his way to get the sack last season for his usual massive payout. And of course we've also improved our attacking play with that signing too.
Still no news of Maguire or Fernandes yet, and PSG have been reported to be sniffing around Fernandes now. >:(
This transfer window has been a bit of a shambles so far tbh. We should have signed both Maguire and Fernandes WEEKS ago. Judge and Woodward seem to be obsessed with not forking out an extra £5m or £10m to get deals done. It's ridiculous. :o
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Some reporter on Twitter has broken the news that we've agreed an £80m deal for Maguire. Nothing official yet but if it ends up being true we'll see an official announcement in the next 24-48 hours I reckon. We've paid too much but that's down to the usual English Player Tax. If his name was Harrio Maguiro we'd probably end up paying half that amount ;D ;D ;D
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Turns out it was nonsense.
Latest is that Pogba is on his way out and we'll be getting Milikovic-Savic, Pepe and Fernandes.
Probably also nonsense.
I don't think we're going to sign ANYBODY.
I see Chelsea beat Barcelona! :o
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Mistake by the keeper and Martial, who's leading the line with James and Greenwood either side, puts United 1-0 up against the Spuds.
Spurs struggling to cope with our pressing game in the first 20 minutes.
A bit of handbags at dawn after James got stamped on, looked accidental to me though.
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Water break now, might have some myself lol ;D
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A REALLY bad challenge on Kane by Pereira. It was more of an assault tbh :o
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1-0 to United at halftime and despite Spurs having LOADS of possession we've been the better side by far. 7 attempts on goal, 3 on target compared to 2 attempts on goal and 1 on target.
Delli Alle should have put them a goal ahead early on but fluffed his lines and provided De Gea with an easier save than it should have been.
Spurs unable to build up from the back due to our front three's crazy pressing but I can't see them keeping up that intensity for too much longer, I think he might change players at halftime instead of 60 minutes.
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Bah! A cruel deflection and Spurs are level :(
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A great goal from Gomes puts United 2-1 up. Spurs have had a better half this half but on balance of play so far we deserve to be ahead I think.
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And that's 2-1 to United at fulltime. A decent win brings our pre-season record to:
P4 W4 F9 A1
8)
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Oh and I forgot to mention that all 9 goals were either scored or assisted by an Academy product. Not too shabby.
United have had an Academy product either in the starting eleven or on the bench for every game played since 1937.
I'm liking the look of this being our first choice eleven so far:
De Gea
Wan-Bissaka Tuanzebe Lindelof Shaw
McTominay Pogba
Lingard
Greenwood Martial James
Playing 4-3-3 with a number 10. That's our best defensive lineup I think and McTominay and Pogba together in the middle of the park worked surprisingly well and is something that should be explored.
The number 10 is a difficult one, Lingard's work off the ball is great and Mata is way too slow to press. I'd be tempted to bung in Gomes in that role too.
We still need to sign Maguire or Koulibaly and Fernandes to guarantee a top four place or a trophy I think but like I've said before our defence isn't as bad as people like to think it is: for four out of the last six years we've had one of the top three defensive records and those other two times was under Moyes (5th best defence) and Maureen/Ollie (6th best defence).
Our REAL problem since Fergie retired has been SCORING goals not conceding them. We were 4th top scorers for van Gaal's first season but every other season we've been 6th top scorers.
This is why the signing of Fernandes is SO important.
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Team lineup against some Norwegian team I've never heard of in Ollie's home town:
De Gea, Wan-Bissaka, Jones, Lindelof, Shaw, Matic, McTominay, James. Lingard, Martial, Rashford
Bench: Romero, Dalot, Rojo, Smalling, Tuanzebe, Young, Pereira, Fred, Gomes, Mata, Pogba, Chong, Greenwood
Probably 4-3-3 with a number 10 again with Matic and McTominay as the central defenders, Lingard as the number 10 and Rashford as the striker with Martial and James on the left and right respectively. I'm expecting those three to switch around though during the match.
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Nope. Looks like Martial as the striker and Rashford on the left. I'm happier with that because Martial is the better finisher.
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0-0 at halftime, no changes for the second half.
It was all United as expected and some good defending and good goalkeeping from the Norwegian side keeping United out in the first half.
They've played with 11 behind the ball for most of the game and have been poor on the break so far. They did nearly score from a corner just now so they could be dangerous with set pieces.
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Ollie's son just stopped Pogba scoring in the last minute!!! :o ;D
And now we've got a penalty in stoppage time!!!
And Mata gets the winner and 5 wins in 5 for Ollie. But only JUST lol ;D
Great performance from them, we had 30 odd attempts on goal and some great defending and some great goalkeeping kept it at 0-0 until injury time.
I reckon a draw would have been a fair result but I'm not complaining. AC Milan next.
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Aw, turns out it wasn't Ollie's son it was another 16 year old. A cracking challenge that saved a certain goal though.
Latest transfer news is that we've agreed a swap deal, Lukaku for Dybala. Not sure what that means for Fernandes though. Could mean we won't sign him and will play Dybala as the number 10, could mean we'll sign both and have Fernandes as the number 10 and Dybala wide right or it could mean that Pogba will go, Fernandes will replace Pogba and Dybala as the number 10. Doesn't sound too shabby whichever way it all ends up going.
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So here's the options if Dybala is up for joining United and we also manage to sign Maguire and Fernandes:
4-3-3 with a number 10/4-2-3-1:
De Gea
Wan-Bissaka Maguire Lindelof Shaw
McTominay Pogba
Fernandes
Dybala Rashford
Martial
4-3-3 with a number 6:
De Gea
Wan-Bissaka Maguire Lindelof Shaw
Matic/McTominay
Fernandes Pogba
Dybala Martial Rashford
4-4-2 with a diamond:
De Gea
Wan-Bissaka Maguire Lindelof Shaw
Matic/McTominay
Fernandes Pogba
Dybala
Rashford Martial
Now I'm getting excited about it we'll probably see either Lukaku or Dybala not fancying the swap lol ;D
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Bollocks, Spurs are trying to hijack our bid for Fernandes. The most important signing we've had to make in YEARS and Woodward and Judge are dragging their fucking feet. It will be DISASTROUS if we don't end up getting him!!! >:( >:( >:(
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Woo hoo!!!
We've just had an £80m/£85m offer accepted by Leicester for Maguire. So subject to a medical he'll be a United player soon. He's not the fastest defender in the world but he reads the game well and will have the protection of Shaw and Wan-Bissaka on the flanks so it shouldn't be too much of a problem.
The best thing about him is his slab head, we haven't had a dominant in the air central defender since Vidic left.
So now we've got:
De Gea
Wan-Bissaka Lindelof Maguire Shaw
as our back five. Looks pretty good to me 8)
Next up is Fernandes and Dybala, although Spurs putting in a bid for Fernandes has now upped the price that Sporting will want because they now have to give Fernandes 5m Euros and double his wages. So that means that we'll probably have to offer £5m-£10m more than we were planning to and increase the wages we were planning to give him. >:(
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Team news for United against Milan:
De Gea
Wan-Bissaka Lindelof Rojo Shaw
Matic McTominay
Pereira
Mata Martial Rashford
Am expecting things to be going at a snail's pace until we bring Matic off lol ;D
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Nice goal from Rashford puts United 1-0 up. If we win by 3 goals or more we'll end up winning this Mickey Mouse competition 8) ;D
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Bah! 1-1 now! Nice goal but you'd expect De Gea to save that. :(
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Wan-Bissaka is just ridiculous lol ;D
You'll never beat Wan-Bissaka!!!
Doesn't have the same ring to it as Des Walker though ;D
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Aw bollocks, 2-1 down now :'(
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Lingard makes it 2-2, nice build up and a nice finish.
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2-2 at fulltime so it goes to penalties. Fuck knows why lmfao ;D
I think it's a 2 point win if you win by penalties and the losing side gets 1 point.
Not that it matters anyway lol ;D
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Well Maldini's son can't take penalties ;D
United won on penalties. 8)
Rashford was looking great on the left, hopefully he'll start there regularly when the season starts. I've always said it was his best position.
A decent game to watch and a decent performance from United.
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Looks like the Lukaku-Dybala swap is off according to reports from the British press. We've pulled out because his wage and agent fee demands are taking the piss.
Whilst that would have been nice, it's nowhere near as important as getting Fernandes but that's on and off more than a buggered kitchen light lol ;D ;D ;D
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Maguire is now a United player. He's on around £200,000 per week on a 6 year contract with an optional 1 year on top. So he's basically going to spend the rest of his career at United if all goes according to plan.
We've overpaid (again!) but he's exactly what we need.
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Sky Sports are now reporting that United won't be making any more signings. Terrible news if true...we haven't replaced Herrera yet ffs :o
Maybe that'll change if Inter fork out some cash for Lukaku..?
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Well something odd may be about to happen. Spurs have had a bid for Dybala accepted, I can't see them being able to satisfy his wage demands though. And Spurs want us to sign Eriksen, probably to lighten their wage bill.
We'll see what happens during these next two days. Spurs could be looking at a serious title challenge if they get Dybala!!! :o
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But then this is Pochettino we're talking about here, he hasn't managed to win a trophy in his managerial career yet! :o
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United have accepted a did of £70m/£72m (depending on where you're reading the report) for Lukaku from Inter.
So that means since January we've got rid of Fellaini, Herrera, Valencia and Lukaku and only signed James, Wan-Bissaka and Maguire so far.
Our midfield is looking a little weak at the moment, we need at least a number 10 or a number 8 (or a player able to play both roles well). Hopefully now we're getting 70 million quid from Inter we'll get something sorted before 5pm tomorrow otherwise we're pretty much screwed when we get Pogba injured or suspended.
Bruno Fernandes would be ideal.
I can't believe we've only spent around £150m or so so far, around £80m if you take into account the sale of Lukaku. An £80m net spend is something you'd expect from the likes of Burnley instead of a club the size and stature of United. It'll be embarrassing if we don't make at least one more buy tomorrow. Fucking Glazernomics!!!!! >:(
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And we didn't sign ANYONE. No surprise tbh.
We'll be lucky to get 4th place with our midfield at the moment, if Pogba and McTominay are injured or suspended we're screwed.
#WoodwardOut
#GlazersOut
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The red scouse gits won 4-1 last night. Wankers. I had a fiver on them winning by 5 goals or more at 4/1. >:(
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Team news for United:
De Gea; Wan-Bissaka, Lindelof, Maguire, Shaw; McTominay, Pogba; Pereira, Lingard, Martial; Rashford
Bench: Romero, Mata, Young, James, Greenwood, Matic, Tuanzebe
Not too sure about the positions up front, probably Pereira on the right, Lingard as the number 10, Rashford on the left and Martial as the number 9 I think, but any of those 4 positions and players in those positions are pretty much interchangeable.
Good luck for later on drags and jman! ;D
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Chelsea hit the post in the first 5 minutes. These first 7 minutes have a ridiculous pace so far. They're all going to be knackered at halftime lol ;D
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Rashford puts United 1-0 up with a penalty. Chelsea have JUST been the better side so far, I can see them scoring if they keep this up.
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That's 1-0 at halftime. It was even on attempts on goal and on target until a 4 minute flurry by Chelsea in the last 10 minutes put them ahead on attempts on goal and attempts on target.
United have had 5 attempts on goal and 2 on target, Chelsea have had 8 attempts on goal and 3 on target. Chelsea have also hit the woodwork twice.
Quite an entertaining first half and this game could go either way because we're only 1 goal ahead.
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2-0 now. Nice goal from a fast break. Good work by Rashford and Pereira and Martial finished it.
And just as I was bunging that on my phone Rashford gets number three. An amazing ball from Pogba, a great first touch and a great finish from Rashford.
Chelsea have had the most possession and more attempts on goal but for the most part those attempts have been pretty poor.
I'm really liking the way we're reacting to losing possession, to quote the NBC commentator, when we lose the ball we're hunting in packs.
The scoreline is flattering us but we've had the better chances I think.
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James has just come on for Pereira.
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Fantastic work from Pogba with a driving run sets up James who gets a goal via a deflection.
We're attacking SO quickly. The ball is coming from inside our 18 yard box to the back of the net in less than 30 seconds I think.
Mata and Greenwood on for Lingard and Rashford.
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4-0 final score, it was almost like watching the old United playing again. Still a lot of work to do but that was a good performance from everyone.
You've got to feel for Fat Frank though, that transfer ban combined with losing Hazard is a big challenge for any manager, let alone one without a great deal of experience.
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That's us 2nd in the table now.
Wolves away is going to be more of a test for United and Ollie-Ball though. Probably the same side for that match.
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Apparently the top speed of James was clocked at 20.82 mph on Sunday :o ;D
No wonder he's nicknamed The Flash!!!
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City got a winner disallowed today through the daft rule that ANY handball that leads to a goal, even if it's accidental, means the goal is disallowed. Some of these new rules are a bit shite tbh but I found this one quite amusing lol ;D ;D ;D
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More points dropped by Fat Frank but at least he broke his duck with a draw.
Team news for United:
De Gea; Wan-Bissaka, Lindelof, Maguire, Shaw; McTominay, Pogba; James, Lingard, Martial; Rashford
Bench: Romero, Mata, Young, Pereira, Greenwood, Matic, Tuanzebe
Am happy with that lineup cos it's the one I predicted on another forum 8)
A tougher match for United and the Wolufs won't be anywhere near as susceptible to the break as Chelsea were because they play in a similar way.
Ollie has two options if things don't go our way, send on Tuanzebe and match the Woluf's three at the back or send on Mata to create chances.
Hopefully we won't need to do either of those two things though!
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Martial puts us 0-1 up after a nice team goal.
No idea how many attempts on goal each side has had cos the Sky Sports app stats appear to be broken but I think we've had a fair amount more.
That's Martial's 50th United goal!
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And that's United 0-1 ahead at halftime.
We've been the better side in the first half and now the Wolufs need a goal we've got more chance of catching them on the break.
Turns out the stats weren't broken, there were only 3 attempts on goal during that first half. That's me not paying attention lol :-[ ;D
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Wow. Fantastic equaliser from Neves. Should be a candidate for Goal Of The Month I think. :'(
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And now a penalty for United...
...and Pogba misses it!!!
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Should have got Rashford to take it when Rashford gave him the ball lol ;D
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Bollocks. 1-1 final score and a fair result I think tbh. >:( :'(
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Oh shit! We've just gone 0-1 down against Palace lmfao ;D
We've had 71% possession and got caught by a sucker punch!!! :o
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0-1 at halftime and we've been pretty poor. Loads of possession, 9 attempts on goal and not a single one on target.
And we should be playing against 10 men too after Cahill denied Martial a goalscoring opportunity with a foul.
And all of our build up play has been way too slow too.
I think Ollie may have that hairdryer going as I'm typing this.
Shaw went off with a hamstring strain too so we've got Young at left back now too.
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There has to be some funny money changing hands with some of these VAR decisions. The ref failed to give us a stonewall penalty. Unbelievable.
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Bollocks.
Missed penalty from Rashford. Nice equaliser from James and a shot that De Gea should have saved.
1-2 down.
This ref has been godawful >:(
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Ended up losing 1-2 in the end. Lingard getting his first deserved bit of stick of the season. First two games he played pretty well but plenty of United fans have given him stick after all 3 matches. It has been annoying me tbh, people are just ball watching and not paying any attention to the excellent work he's been doing off the ball.
Against Palace though he was shite and deserved all the grief he got after this match.
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Yesssssssssssss!!!
We've managed to get rid of Sanchez on loan to Inter. I love Conte!!! ;D
So that's more deadwood gone. We've got rid of Fellaini, Valencia, Lukaku and now Sanchez. The only player I'm sad to see us lose was Herrera. Hopefully Rojo will be next!
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Hilarious.. united are still subsidising his wages and still paying him more than most players who can actually play for your team.. ;D ;D
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Depends on which article you read and believe. Some are saying Inter are paying 33%, 50%, 60% or 66%.
I don't give a monkey's just as long as he's out of the dressing room tbh.
Smalling is also going too.
Ollie is doing exactly what he said he would - he's getting rid of the deadwood.
That's Valencia, Fellaini, Darmian, Lukaku, Smalling and Sanchez gone, although those last two are loan deals. He's getting rid of the deadwood.
Now we have room for the kids to come through, especially with the Europa League starting soon.
Happy with MOST of the transfer business we've done, but we REALLY could have done with a couple of midfielders though.
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Team news for United:
De Gea; Wan-Bissaka, Lindelof, Maguire, Young; Pogba, McTominay; Pereira, Mata, James; Rashford.
Lingard dropped to the bench.
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United are 0-1 up through a great finish from James. In 4 games he has now scored 3 goals. More than Sanchez has done in his whole United career so far lol 😯😂
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United a goal up at halftime. Pogba is having a TERRIBLE game so far, I'd be tempted to take him off during the break. :o
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Bollocks 1-1 now. Another header lost by Lindelof :(
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Lingard and Static on for Mata and Pereira earlier on and now the Saints are down to 10 men.
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1-1 final score and another 2 points dropped. Decent performance though and I think we did enough to deserve a win. Oh well, at least we weren't robbed by dodgy VAR decisions this time!
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So a draw for Chelsea and arse and Spurs yesterday and today helps us a lot with regards to our top four challenge.
There are plenty of United fans panicking at the moment which is RIDICULOUS. Only FOUR games have been played ffs :o
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Aw bollocks. United have just gone a goal down just before the end of the first half. We've controlled the game so far but not had enough chances.
Rashford has been pretty poor and looks like he's struggling. An injury, perhaps? Maybe an illness like the one that has ruled out Greenwood.
The side have been pretty lethargic, but we always are when bloody Static plays. I'd personally take him off at halftime.
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Static is off and Fred came on to replace him. Still got Mata on there slowing things down. Rashford came off injured too, replaced by Lingard.
Such a shame that Greenwood was ill, but a bit of a joke that we don't have any strikers left to speak of.
Mata and Static should never play for United again unless we're REALLY desperate.
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Gomes on for Mata and a cracking free kick from Cresswell puts the Hammers 2-0 up.
What a fucking disaster for United. >:( :'(
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A must win game for both sides this evening and Wan-Bissaka is unavailable through illness!!! Aaaaaaargh!!!
Team is as follows:
De Gea
Young Lindelof Maguire Tuanzebe
Pogba McTominay
Pereira Lingard James
Rashford
So we've got Greenwood back on the bench. I would have started Greenwood and had Rashford on the bench tbh.
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I tell you what Harv... the way you play is absolutely terrible. Its so boring. 0 creation.
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Well I'm not complaining if we win lol
A crazy good finish from McTominay puts us 1-0 up just before halftime 8)
A pretty even first half but we go in ahead.
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If we do end up winning this game it's just papering over the cracks. You're right, our football just isn't good enough so far.
I really can't understand why Ollie switched from the 4-3-3 with a number 6 formation that got us plenty of goals last season before everyone ran out of puff to playing 4-3-3 with a number 10.
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Bollocks. 1-1 now :'(
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Greenwood needs to come on.
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NAO!!!
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1-1 final score and another bad performance. Should have put Greenwood on after 60 minutes I think.
We'll be fighting bloody relegation soon the way we're going lol ;D
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Oops, I put the United team news in the wrong thread lol
Another poor performance from United so far with 33 minutes gone. We've only had one attempt on goal so far. :'(
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0-0 at halftime and Newcastle have been the better side so far. Terrible performance from us. >:(
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Another bloody injury. Dalot this time. :'(
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So that's now Dalot, Fosu-Mensah, Bailly, Lindelof, Jones, Wan-Bissaka, Pogba, Lingard and Martial all injured. :o
Greenwood on for Mata. Not soon enough, he should have made that change 10 minutes ago.
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Not to keep banging on but this has got to be the worst United team I have seen in my 30 year memory. So mediocre. Mid table team at best.
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And now we're 1-0 down. :'(
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The problem is that Moyes, van Gaal and Maureen changed us from a Premiership challenging side into a cup challenging side. It's going to take some major transfers to change things around, as well as a few years.
Will Ollie get the time? I'm not sure, he might be gone at the end of the season.
Without Pogba we don't have enough creativity or enough of a goalscoring threat from midfield. I'd be tempted to bung in Garner in place of Fred if Pogba still isn't fit for the next game.
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Fred, Mata and Static should never wear a United shirt again as far as I'm concerned.
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Bring in Garner and Gomes.
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I've also mentioned it the other day, he needs to change the system now. Switch back to 4-3-3 with a number 6, 4-3-3 with a number 10 just isn't doing the job. It's too defensive.
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Another disaster for United. Bollocks. >:( :'(
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Got it wrong... Solskjaer won't be gone by Xmas.. he'll will be gone by November ;D
Hope not.. because Utd are playing like absolute dog shite at the moment ;D ;D
Can't blame the other managers for selling all your strikers or wasting a transfer window buying shit players like Dan James can you?
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James, Wan-Bissaka and Maguire have performed pretty well so far. James has got three goals so far I think.
Our problem is with our midfield, without Pogba we're lacking goals and creativity. This is why I'm hoping that Garner is going to see some first team action soon.
Ollie simply hasn't been supported by the board to make the signings we needed.
Ollie has done the right thing getting rid of both Lukaku and Sanchez, Lukaku wasn't suited to playing for United because he didn't have the service that he thrives on.
Sanchez wasn't even a first team regular so replacing him with James has been thr correct decision imo.
We haven't been helped by injuries but most of us United fans would rather Ollie put in the likes of Williams, Garner and Gomes rather than relying on Young, Static and Mata.
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If it was guaranteed that Solskjaer was going to be United manager all season - no matter what the results - I'd put some serious wonga on United to get relegated lol ;D ;D
You're like a broken record... When Looney was in charge, you blamed Moyes, when Mourinho was in charge, you blamed Looney and Moyes, now you're blaming all 3 previous managers.. oh and you constantly blame the board despite the fact they've ploughed over £680m into new transfers since then..
You never blame the current management - unless you personally don't like them.. like Jose - who you wanted out from Day 1 - but actually did the best out of everyone you've had.
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Our net spend has been bloody awful. We've spent something like 60 million quid at a time when we needed to replace Fellaini and Herrera.
Next Summer, assuming that Pogba goes, we'll need to buy THREE midfielders.
We've replaced Sanchez with James, Lukaku with Greenwood, Valencia with Wan-Bissaka, Smalling with Maguire. All great moves in the transfer market.
But we also needed two midfielders and a right winger.
But the money wasn't there. Because the board are as tight as a gnat's chuff.
Ollie needed around £300m to fix the squad and he got £60m. You REALLY couldn't make this shit up.
We've spent £60m quid this Summer just gone, Maureen got a similar amount to spend last year too, but even if he got £300m to spend he still would have gone out of his way to alienate players, get bad results and get the sack because that's his MO.
He'll do exactly the same thing if anyone else is stupid enough to give him a job with anything other than a one year rolling contract.
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Big game for United this. They don't expect to get anything as Liverpool are light years better. So a point for them would be huge.
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Bloody streams!!! Can't get a decent one!!!
Tuanzebe injured apparently, Jones called from the stands to appear on the bench.
So yet ANOTHER bloody injury for United!!! :'(
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I think I'm going to give up with these bloody streams and 'watch' it via the Sky Sports app commentary so won't be posting until halftime and full time.
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Your not missing much. United sitting with 11 behind the ball playing on counter @ old trafford.
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United scored through Rashford, VAR used cos there was a foul by Lindelof early in the buildup (I think?) but the goal was allowed.
Klopp goes a bit mental.
Scouse gits got an equaliser through Mane but he handballed it so it was disallowed.
Klopp goes mentalerer. ;D
Scouse gits slightly ahead on possession but goal attempts and attempts on target are even Stevens at 4 off target and 2 on target.
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Bollocks 1-1 now. Cock ups by Young and Rojo. Awful defending apparently. Martial came on for Rashford just before that.
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1-1 final score. :(
Can't really comment on the match, will watch it on MUTV later on tonight.
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Disappointed with Ollie's team selection:
De Gea
Wan-Bissaka Lindelof Maguire Young
McTominay Fred
James Pereira Rashford
Martial
Bench: Romero, Rojo, Williams, Garner, Lingard, Mata, Greenwood
It's been mostly United, Norwich missed a great chance that was poorly missed but United have had two great chances. The first saw an amazing reaction save from Krul and the second saw a great finish from from McTominay.
Claims for a penalty for United, no chance.
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Ridiculous decision, United given the penalty. There was no way that was a penalty for United.
Rashford poorly taken and a save. Justice done there, that was nowhere near a penalty.
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Great second goal for United. Great run from Rashford, brilliant cross from James and an even better finish from Rashford. Brilliant goal.
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Another penalty, this time deserved and Krul saved it. :o
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A reckless challenge from Wan-Bissaka, he could have seen a straight red from that!!! :o
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And that's United 0-2 up at halftime, two thirds of our attempts on target and two penalties saved.
Much better from United. 8)
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Lovely goal from Martial for number three. 8) ;D
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Greenwood on for Martial, Lingard on for James and Garner on for Pereira.
Norwich have made all 3 subs and Krul looks injured.
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A lovely goal back from Norwich. Just a consolation though with 2 minutes left.
It's a shame because United deserve a clean sheet today.
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Shit. There are rumours that the Glazers have sold the club to the Saudis. I don't want this family anywhere near my club. >:(
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No more rumours about the Saudis so hopefully it was a load of old bollocks.
Team news for United:
Same as we had against Norwich. Too lazy to type it out again lol
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I do like our gold away strip. 8)
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Fucking streams are crap again today. I might just end up going for the MUTV radio commentary >:( :'(
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Bollocks. 1-0 down just before halftime >:(
We should have had a penalty in the first half too.
United have just about been the best side going into the break but there's not much in it. They certainly don't deserve to go in a goal down on the balance of play. Terrible defending for the goal though :(
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United in the ascendancy these last 10 minutes or so. Have switched to the MUTV commentary for this half.
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Bollocks, lost 1-0 >:(
No idea how the game went cos I stopped watching at halftime, and the first half was on a bad stream so I can't comment on how we played tbh.
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Popped my head back in, jeepers Harv, you're talking to yourself a lot. It's like a ghost town in here.
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Yup, was wondering where you had got to!
This forum is now my personal blog these days lmfao ;D
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Oh shit. We now have 12 players injured:
Bailly, Pogba, Tuanzebe, Matic, Shaw, Young, Dalot, Lindelof, McTominay, Maguire, Gomes and Fosu-Mensah.
So that's seven defenders injured, three defensive midfielders injured and two number tens injured. :o
Bloody hell ;D ;D ;D
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Oops, it's ONLY 11 players injured cos Young has a suspension for 5 yellow cards.
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Brandon Williams gets his first Premiership start today. Team news for United:
De Gea
Wan-Bissaka Lindelof Maguire Williams
McTominay Fred
James Pereira Rashford
Martial
A must win for United today. :o
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Bollocks. Streams went tits up and I've missed 2 goals for United. 2nd one might be disallowed for handball.
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Goal stands! 2-0 to United. ;D
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A bit of a poor performance so far and we're lucky to be 2 goals ahead. Pereira's goal was a deflection and the second was an own goal.
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Ref has been a bit card happy this half imo. 5 yellow cards so far.
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2-0 to United at halftime. I don't think we deserve to go in ahead by one goal let alone two, but we're attacking with pace and three out of four of our goal attempts have been on target.
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Bollocks, 2-1. They're back in it now. >:(
Not for long lol
3-1. Good work from Martial and Rashford who gets number three. ;D
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Oh shit, Rashford missed a bloody sitter lmfao :o ;D
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McTominay injured at the end, didn't look too clever :o :'(
3-1 final score and I was MUCH happier with the second half. 21 attempts on goal and 11 on target in 90 minutes.
Martial is making the difference I think, he was MOTM today.
Williams had another great game, although I was a bit concerned when he got booked because he's never afraid to put a challenge in when needed.
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Well that's Pochettino sacked. :o
Some idiots want him at United. The bloke has NEVER won a trophy in his entire managerial career.
There's talk of Maureen taking over Spurs but they'd be INSANE to have him at Spurs. The man is toxic. If he gets the job he'll win a trophy or two and then do his best to get the sack and his usual massive payout.
The only way any sensible club would employ Maureen would be on a one year rolling contract.
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Well it's official. Levy has gone insane. Maureen has been given a contract until 2023. :o ;D
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Looks like 3-4-3 for United this afternoon:
De Gea
Lindelof Maguire Jones
Wan-Bissaka Pereira Fred Williams
James Martial Rashford
;D
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Bollocks, 1-0 down after a cock up by Jones. And they deserve the lead too.
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I think Ollie might change to a back four soon.
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Well he didn't change anything before the end of the first half. We've been bloody terrible during that first 45 minutes.
1-0 down at halftime. :'(
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Shite, that's 2-0 now. United were playing much better this half too since Lingard came on for Jones during the break.
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Williams gets his first United goal. He nearly broke the bloomin net lol :o ;D
Greenwood on for Pereira.
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Greenwood with an equaliser :o ;D 8)
Lovely goal too.
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Rashford, 2-3 8)
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Aw bollocks 3-3 now lol :o ;D
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VAR review...
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Goal stands, no handball. Correct decision :'(
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3-3 final score, we probably would have won that if he had made those changes after 30 minutes instead of during the break.
A fair result though I think.
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Arsenal 8 points off top 4, sacked their manager. Spurs 9 points off top 4, sacked their manager.
United, 9 points off top 4... and you get so many deluded united fans that still have faith in ole ;D ;D One of the biggest frauds going ;D
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If they do sack Ollie, who's going to want to take over with a transfer budget of 60-70 million quid every Summer?
We're only in December (well at least tomorrow!) the only reason for a club to sack a manager at this time of the season is if the manager has lost the dressing room. Both Emery and Pochettino both lost the dressing room, Ollie hasn't.
United need to stick with Ollie not just this season but also next season too. He has a long term plan for the club but this plan has been hampered by the board not giving him the support he needs with transfers.
We've lost Fellaini and Herrera and Ollie wasn't given the cash to strengthen what was already a weak midfield because he's had to sell players to buy players.
United should have had a net spend of around 300 million quid this Summer just gone but he only had 60m or so.
I still think we'll get a top four place depending on whether we make any signings in January.
We needed a right back, a central defender, two midfielders, a number 10 and a right winger. Plus a left winger and forward to replace Lukaku and Sanchez.
Now we signed a right back (Wan-Bissak), a central defender (Maguire) and a left winger (James) and promoted Greenwood to replace Lukaku, but we were still short of a couple of midfielders, a number 10 and a right winger so we have been 4 players short.
Ollie has been seriously let down by the board unfortunately. And like I've said, if he does get sacked who's going to take the job if he's only given 60m quid to spend every Summer?
And things will get worse when we get rid of Static and Pogba goes too.
The board need to spend money.
Our kids coming through will make things a bit easier - Laird will replace Young when he goes, Bernard and Tuanzebe will replace Jones and Smalling. We have both Garner and Levitt to bolster our midfield too, but we still need to buy some experienced players to help our kids develop.
We're not out of reach of getting a top four place and if we don't win a Cup of some description we'll make it to at least one Final I think.
Ollie needs time and I think he'll be given it by the board as long as he doesn't lose the dressing room. He's only made 3 signings so far but they've all been good signings so I'm trusting his judgement.
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Looks like nothing's changed at arse, they drew 2-2.
Team news for United:
De Gea, Lindelof, Maguire, Wan-Bissaka, Pereira, Fred, Williams, Mata, James, Rashford, Martial.
Bench: Grant, Lingard, Young, Shaw, Greenwood, Garner, Tuanzebe.
So it's looking like Pereira and Fred in the middle and Mata as the number 10.
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Oh shit! A cracking goal from Grealish. Wow. Outstanding. :o
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I was going to slag Pereira off at halftime but he's just put in a peach of a cross to give Rashford an easy header for an equaliser ;D
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That goal has gone down officially as an own goal. Rashford has every right to feel aggrieved about that I think.
Second half has started.
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Bloody hell, Grealish just missed a sitter!!! :o ;D
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And United get a goal almost immediately afterwards. A great header from Lindelof 8)
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And now Villa have scored an equaliser :'(
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Well that's livened things up lol ;D
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Lingard on for Mata.
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Shaw on for Williams. And Martial missed a sitter. Bloody hell lol ;D
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Greenwood on for Martial who's had a bad game.
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2-2 final score and another poor performance from United, although our finishing was marginally better. A side like United should be getting half of their attempts on target. We had 16 with 6 on target.
That's two points dropped with a few tough games coming up, not looking good for United at the moment but there's plenty of games to play before the end of the season.
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Jose got sacked with 26 points after 17 games.. ole has 18 points after 14 games... ;D ;D
Hate to tell you this, your young players are shite. Mctominay, Fred, Lingard and Pereria shouldn't be getting near the bench, never mind the first 11.
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Our problem these last couple of games has been losing McTominay and not having anyone good enough to replace him. McTominay has been one of our best players this season.
Ollie won't get the sack until he loses the dressing room, that's the main reason why Maureen had to go...and that's why Emery and Pochettino went.
If we lose on Wednesday then there'll be A LOT of pressure on Ollie and the board though.
Personally I'm disappointed that Garner hasn't been selected whilst McTominay has been out.
I'm not too sure what's going on with Lingard. The first couple of games he was fantastic, in the running for the MOTM awards after both matches but since then his form has dropped off a cliff.
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Big match for Ollie now with Ollie vs Maureen. We've got McTominay back thankfully but he's not going to be 100% fit and sharp just yet.
Martial has been dropped and Greenwood is given a start. Here's the team news:
De Gea
Wan-Bissaka Lindelof Maguire Young
McTominay Fred
James Lingard Rashford
Greenwood
Bench: Romero, Shaw, Williams, Tuanzebe, Garner, Pereira and Mata
No backup strikers on the bench which is a concern, I'm guessing Martial is out through injury?
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Watch for runs into the box from Greenwood, something desperately missing from our last game. It was quite frustrating to watch.
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Rashford puts us 1-0 up. 8)
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Bloody hell, great effort from Rashford hits the crossbar :o
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That was actually saved by the keeper. Rashford is having a great game so far.
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Terrible defending from United and Delle Alli gets an equaliser.
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VAR checking it out but the goal stands. Rightfully so too.
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1-1 at halftime and United don't deserve to go in level, they've been the better side by far.
If United continue playing the way they did in the first half we'll be looking at 3 points, but for some reason United aren't able to keep up decent quality play for 90 minutes so I'm expecting a draw or a Spurs win :(
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That's a brace for Rashford who keeps his cool and scores from a deserved penalty. 2-1 to United 8)
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2-1 final score and a great performance, particularly from our midfield pairing. We're a completely different side with McTominay playing. Another two goals from Rashford too.
So that's us in 6th place, 4 points away from Chelsea in 4th place.
Going to be interesting to see what the table looks like after the Christmas and New Year fixtures have come and gone. That's reduced the pressure on Ollie for now but we have the Berties next away.
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Make that 8 points away, no idea where I got 4 from lol :o ;D
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Martial back from injury and Greenwood on the bench. Shaw gets a start ahead of Young and Williams:
De Gea
Wan-Bissaka Lindelof Maguire Shaw
McTominay Fred
James Lingard Rashford
Martial
Subs: Romero, Mata, Pereira, Young, Greenwood, Tuanzebe, Williams
Happy with that side. I would have been tempted to go for Williams ahead of Shaw but he tends to get stuck in so would probably pick up an early yellow card and walk a tightrope for the rest of the match. Still hasn't stopped him getting stuck in in the past though lol ;D
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United the best side in the opening 15 minutes, 2 attempts on goal and 2 on target.
City have had more possession but haven't done a great deal with it so far.
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A stonewall penalty for United if VAR is doing its job properly.
Yup.
Penalty.
And Rashford slots it home. Noice. 8)
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Pep going apeshit lol. They've been quite correctly denied two penalty appeals so he's not a happy bunny lmfao ;D
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And Rashford has missed a sitter. :o
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And just hit the crossbar. Rashford is on fire at the moment and City are pooing their pants whenever we counterattack 8)
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And Martial makes it 0-2. We're starting to look like United again now.
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City piling on the pressure now. Winning free kicks in dangerous areas.
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Has to be a penalty for City. Handball by Fred.
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And it's a corner!!! We were lucky there I think. :o
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And that's halftime with United going in 0-2 up. A good performance so far, we could have been 3 or 4 goals up on another day.
Pep could feel aggrieved about that last penalty decision but the two they were denied early on and the one that United got were the right decisions.
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It's been all City in the first 10 minutes of the second half but we've defended well so far, and can punish them on the break.
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Great save from De Gea :o
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Dickheads in the crowd are throwing stuff. Fred just got hit by something when he was about to take a corner >:(
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I'm a bit disappointed we've been defending our 2 goal lead since this half started. I can't help thinking that we may end up paying for it. You can't keep giving a side like this chances, it's asking for trouble.
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Pereira on for Martial, more defending on the way I guess. :(
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Bollocks. 1-2 now. 5 minutes plus injury time to go. My nerves are going to be shot. This will be points thrown away if we don't win.
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Young and Tuanzebe on for Shaw and Lingard, United switching to 5 at the back. Balls to the wall time, 5 minutes of injury time to play.
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And that's fulltime, United won 1-2.
Now if you'll excuse me I need to change my underwear lol :o ;D
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Looks like Fat Frank's honeymoon period is over, Chelsea got beat 0-1 at home by Bournemouth.
This means that a win for United will put us just 2 points away from 4th place with the games coming thick and fast over Christmas and the New Year.
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Team news for United:
De Gea
Wan-Bissaka Lindelof Maguire Shaw
McTominay Fred
James Lingard Rashford
Martial
Bench: Romero, Williams, Tuanzebe, Young, Mata, Pereira and Greenwood.
This is United's 4000th game with a Yoof Academy product either in the starting 11 or on the bench. That's every game since 1937. Incredible record.
De Gea looks like he's picked up an injury early on.
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Own goal from Lindelof puts us a goal behind after De Gea isn't strong enough for a corner. Looked like a foul on the keeper to me but VAR says the goal stands. :'(
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And that's the end of the first half with us going in a goal down against an injury ravaged side. We've had more chances on goal but only a couple of them on target. >:(
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Greenwood on for Lingard.
A better second half from United so far.
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18 shots on goal so far and only 4 on target. We need to be more clinical otherwise we'll throw points away.
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Greenwood with an equaliser, 1-1 ;D
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Going to be so frustrating if we don't get 3 points here, particularly when you consider the fixtures that Chelsea have coming up. >:(
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Wan-Bissaka REALLY needs to work on his crossing!!!
Mata on for James.
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Bollocks. 1-1 final score and that puts us 4 points behind Chelsea. That was a good opportunity lost to close that gap a little more. :'(
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Team news for United, the team picks itself at the moment with only the left back position a toss up between Shaw and Williams:
De Gea
Wan-Bissaka Lindelof Maguire Shaw
McTominay Fred
James Lingard Rashford
Martial
Subs: Romero, Young, Static, Pereira, Mata, Pogba, Greenwood
Pogba back on the bench! Once he's match fit and sharp I'm expecting Ollie to play him as the number 10.
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Our passing has been fucking terrible so far. :o
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0-0 at halftime and we've been terrible. Lingard had a good opportunity to put us ahead when he was one on one with the keeper but his lob ended up over the crossbar. Neither side has had a shot on target yet.
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A HUGE cock up from De Gea gives Watford the lead. >:( :'(
And now they have a penalty.
2-0 down. :'(
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Greenwood and Pogba have come on for James and Lingard.
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And that's another 3 points thrown away, 2-0 final score. United were a bit better in the last 10 minutes but we're continuing to struggle to break teams down when they park the bus. >:( :( :'(
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Looks like Fat Frank's honeymoon period is over, Chelsea got beat 0-1 at home by Bournemouth.
This means that a win for United will put us just 2 points away from 4th place with the games coming thick and fast over Christmas and the New Year.
Classic Harv, always getting ahead of himself... you forget.. United are shite and will be lucky to finish in the top half with that clown in charge, keep him on, he's doing a great job.
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It's a waste of time looking at the table until February or March, Liverpool have won bugger all apart from the Mickey Mouse World Club Cup so far. Like I said in that post you've quoted, the games are coming in thick and fast over Christmas and the New Year and points will be dropped by EVERYONE.
And as I think I've already mentioned Ollie was given bugger all money to spend in the Summer, same with Maureen the Summer before. We need a net spend of £300m or so but the board are being VERY tight with the purse strings these last few seasons, both Ollie and Maureen had a net spend of around 60 or 70 million quid these last two Summers.
We still haven't replaced Fellaini and Herrera ffs :o
I'm confident that Ollie can turn things around this season even if we don't sign Haaland, and I reckon we'll end up with a trophy of some description this season.
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Merry Christmas 9and thanks for three points Spurs).
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More points dropped by Fat Frank.
Team news for United:
De Gea, Shaw, Wan-Bissaka, Lindelof, Maguire, Pereira, Fred, McTominay, Martial, Rashford, Greenwood
Bench: Romero, Jones, Pogba, Mata, Lingard, Young, James
James dropped to the bench and Greenwood gets a start. Pogba on the bench, Lingard dropped to the bench and looks like Pereira playing as the number 10.
A win today gets us within 4 points of 4th place at the halfway through the season mark.
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So we'll probably drop points AGAIN lol :o ;D ;D ;D
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Oops, McTominay booked in the first minute will see him walking a proverbial tightrope for the remaining 89 minutes!
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And now he's just got himself injured. Pogba warning up! :o
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Think he's just run it off.
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Fucking Matty Longstaff again!!! 0-1 down. Really poor performance from United so far. :'(
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Martial gets the equaliser, 1-1. 8)
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Greenwood, 2-1. Nice assist from a bizarre mis-pass from a Geordie defender.
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Nice goal from United, great assist from Wan-Bissaka and a header from Rashford. 3-1 to United.
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3-1 at halftime, a bad start from United but they ended up purring once they got the equaliser. ;D 8)
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Pogba on for McTominay ;D
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Another defensive cock up from Newcastle and a cool finish from Martial makes it 4-1 and that should be game over. Wouldn't surprise me if we score more now.
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Lingard on for Rashford and Mata on for Martial.
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I'll be really disappointed if we don't get at least 1 more goal.
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4-1 final score, should have had 5 or 6 tbh. So that's us in 6th place, 4 points behind Chelsea. We would be in 4th if we hadn't thrown some ridiculous points away during these last few games >:(
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Pogba not in the matchday squad at all :o
4 changes from the last match:
De Gea
Young Lindelof Maguire Williams
Static Fred
James Pereira Rashford
Martial
Bench: Romero, Jones, Wan-Bissaka, Shaw, Lingard, Mata, Greenwood
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Quite an open game so far. 3 attempts on goal for United and 1 on target. Burnley 0 on both counts.
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Clearance off the line by Bardsley :o
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Martial puts United a goal up just before halftime. A lovely pass from Pereira after a defensive cock up and a nice touch and nice finish from Martial.
United deserve to go in ahead after this first 45 minutes. Burnley 0 - 1 United at halftime.
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A better second half from the Clarets early on in this half.
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Pellegrini has left the Hammers with immediate effect apparently. :o
No news on whether he jumped or was pushed, my guess would be the latter.
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And Rashford seals the result with a goal. A nice counterattack, good ball from James and great determined work from Rashford to get the ball in the net.
And that's fulltime, Burnley 0 - 2 United.
So that's us 1 point behind Chelsea with their game in hand against arse away tomorrow. 8)
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Awwwwww. Chelsea left it up to the last 10 minutes or so to get a win today. Still, 4 points away with half the season left to play isn't a complete disaster. Top four is still on and we're still in the running for 3 trophies.
Things were looking completely different a month or so ago.
The problem that we have at the moment is consistency, we're struggling to beat sides that park the proverbial bus. I still think some players are having difficulty adjusting to NOT playing boring defensive football and passing the ball forwards instead of backwards and sideways.
arse away next, another tough match but their defence isn't great and our forwards are in form so we could get a result.
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Looks like Haaland has gone to Dortmund instead of United. And because the owners of our club are too tight to front up the money to get a deal done. Again. This is just getting ridiculous. >:(
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Chelsea dropped another 2 points and Spurs got beat earlier. If we beat arse we'll be just 2 points behind Chelsea and 5 points ahead of Spurs...which is precisely why we'll ALSO drop points against arse, cos that's what we seem to do these last few seasons when we have the opportunity to close any sort of gap!!! :o ::) ;D
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Make that 4 points, I can't add up lol :-[ ;D
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Ollie has confirmed that Pogba is injured again. Team news for United:
De Gea
Wan-Bissaka Lindelof Maguire Shaw
Static Fred
James Lingard Rashford
Martial
Bench: Romero, Jones, Williams, Young, Pereira, Mata, Greenwood
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Terrible defending from United and Pepe puts arse a goal up. :'(
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arse have been the better side by far so far. We've only had one shot on goal, a poor effort from Rashford.
And they've just hit the woodwork. :o
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Bollocks. 2-0 now.
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We've been bloody terrible. 2-0 to arse at halftime.
Hopefully we're going to see some changes at halftime, Williams on for Shaw will have me happy, and maybe Greenwood on for James.
Static has been awful too, as expected. Wish we had Garner on the bench.
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Greenwood and Pereira on for James and Lingard.
Our full backs have started to push up more now.
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2-0 final score, I knew we'd throw away this opportunity to close that gap!!! >:( :'(
We played a bit better in the second half but the first half we were godawful. So that loss leaves us 5 points away from 4th place and only 1 point ahead of Spurs. Bollocks. Such a wasted opportunity.
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;D ;D ;D What did you expect with a midfield of Fred, James, Lingard and Matic - I think this is honestly the shittest PL squad I've ever seen at United ;D You can blame transfer markets all you want.. but you are not a big club anymore.. you can't attract the big players
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Harv my man, Your still going strong :)
United were awful the other day against arsenal. So bad wasnt they, esp after good wins against newcastle and burnley. Such a good chance wasted to get back into top 4 and pull away from spurs.
I dont hold much hope though mate as i dont think we have the squad depth or the quality. I feel pogba will go and we will struggle to get anyone decent in.
Hope poch will come in for ole but that might not happen or it will be end of season.
Frustrating times being a united fan aha
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Hello mate, long time no see!
I don't want Pochettino anywhere near the club. He hasn't won a single trophy in his entire managerial career. Ollie has won 7, albeit 4 with the United Yoof Academy and 3 with Molde.
The problem is at the top. The Glazers and Woodward. They're as tight as a gnat's chuff. Ollie only had a transfer budget of £100m this Summer and spent £60m...so he's got £40m to spend in this transfer window.
And sacking Ollie will be the worst thing they can do. What sort of manager is going to take the job when you only have a transfer kitty of £100m across two transfer windows?
I think Ollie will win a trophy or two this season and he won't get sacked. It's just frustrating to see that he isn't getting the backing from the board that he needs to build a side.
The injuries to the McTominator and Pogba might not be a complete disaster though because we might end up seeing Garner and Levitt breaking through, but on the other hand if they weren't both injured we'd finally be getting rid of Static this month. Can't see that happening now though.
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yes mate is has been a while. Good to see you still about.
i get what your saying with ole i just dont think hes tactically good enough. he dont know much. poch was good with yoof and thats what united are about.
will see what happens this weekend. defeat to wolves could heap more pressure on.
just miffed nobody going to stop liverpool, think its there year....
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The Scousers will probably do their usual and fall apart at the end of the season.
I hope. ;D ;D ;D
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We should have had a bloody penalty there. VAR is a load of old bollocks. ;D
Not too happy with Ollie's team selection:
De Gea
Wan-Bissaka Lindelof Maguire Williams
Static Fred
Pereira Mata Rashford
Martial
Static and Mata in the same side.
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Nice goal from Rashford assist from Mata. Ended 1-0 to United at half time. ;D
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Daft penalty given away by Krul and Rashford slots it home. 2-0 to United, Rashford on a hat trick.
Now Martial gets number 3 with his head, another assist from Mata.
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And Williams just missed a sitter :o
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Rashford off injured. Bugger.
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Greenwood makes it 4-0 ;D
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Too easy, Not getting carried away though as we usually win one convincingly then lose the next 1 or 2 when we should be winning lol.
I actually have liked mata in the side recently. The other week he was the only one looking to drive with the ball and play little one twos ect rather than playing a easy side way pass or backwards. He is a good player and can make things happen just hasn't had a good run in the team to build up any confidence or consistency.
Need to perform next game or its the same old story im afraid.
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Hopefully we'll have Bruuuunnnnoooooo!!! playing either against the Wolufs or the red scouse gits. But that's assuming that Judge and Woodward can get their fucking arses in gear.
We should have signed him in the Summer but despite what Ollie said I don't think he had the money to spend.
I'm still pissed off that we didn't sign Haaland tbh.
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dont look like its gonna happen with bruno until the very end lol sporting being idiots about the valuation. there even talking about looking else where unless they drop the valuation.
Not looking forward to the game tomorrow. Think we going to get a right hiding....
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It's the board and the Glazers being stupid. They only gave Ollie £100m net to spend in the Summer according to one of the tabloids last year. I thought it was a load of old bollocks at the time but if they're only offering £35m up front then it appears that might have been accurate. Pretty bloody ridiculous if true when you consider the bucketloads of cash the club has coming in every year.
I think the Glazers are looking to sell, that's why they've spent bugger all money for the last two seasons.
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Loads of draws today and Chelsea got beat. A win tomorrow and we'll go with 2 points of fourth place. We've REALLY got to start taking advantage of other sides dropping points, we haven't been anywhere near consistent enough.
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you are right with consistency, Same will happen today. I cant see us beating liverpool today.
Hopefully they do sell, we dont want them in our club there holding us back.
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The problem with them selling is that we'll be bought by journalist murdering arabs. I don't want that family anywhere near my club.
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We seem to do better against the top four though, we're the only side to have taken points off them so far, and we do have a habit of breaking unbeaten runs so you never know.
I'm more confident about United getting points off the red scouse gits than I am against any of the bottom half of the table.
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Harv loves banging the net spend drum.. like £100m is not a lot of money (especially net spend)... Chelsea have spent that amount twice since Abramovich took over.. one was the first season and one was last season - and we've won the most trophys in the last 15 years out of any english club... we've just had a net spend of -£152m this season too and are still 4th..
Net Spend means nothing... but... when you buy one of the world's most coveted strikers in Lukaku for £75m two seasons ago.. and then sell him in his prime (he's 26 now) - and you sell him for LESS... that is an absolute joke.. Woodward hasn't got a clue - and its hilarious ;D ;D 14 in 19 games for Inter by the way...
Why did Ole let Lukaku go though - he didn't have a choice... he can't manage a player of that calibre.. which is exactly why Pogba is going at the end of the season too.
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He let Lukaku go because he wasn't suited to play Ollie's style of football. He has no pace and no first touch but if you bung him in a decent cross he'll score a shitload. I said at the time that he'd score a load of goals over there because he'll get the service and the pace of the game is slower.
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And how's Ole's style of football gone down ;D ;D
If you truly believe that bollocks then you're more deluded than I thought... Ole should have build the club around Lukaku and Pogba - and instead he's building it around players like Fred and Pereira ;D
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In the Summer we will have to spend a shitload of money if we don't sign Fernandes. We haven't replaced Herrera and Fellaini and we'll soon lose Pogba. So we'll need 3 midfielders and a number 10.
This is also Martial's last season I think so we'll need another striker.
So we need 5 players minimum.
Maureen and Ollie have had transfer kitty of £100m for the last two seasons by the looks of things, which is just plain ridiculous.
One thing that Ollie has done that none of the others have managed to do is that he's gotten rid of a lot of deadwood - Young, Valencia, Fellaini, Sanchez, Smalling and Lukaku have all gone.
And now we've just gone 1-0 down. Free header. Bollocks. :'(
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Pereira will be going in the Summer too I think.
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Fucking hell, this ref has been TERRIBLE :o
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United 1-0 down at halftime and we've been terrible. We were okay when the match started and okay towards the end but the middle of that first half we could have been three goals down if it wasn't for VAR :o >:(
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Not sure what's happened to Wan-Bissaka :o
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Well that's the Premiership won for them now, but there must have been plenty of scouse bums squeaking during that last 15 minutes or so when we were knocking on the door.
Best team won.
:'(
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Well that was obvious.. United were complete pants for the majority of that game.. and lucky that the first disallowed goal wasn't given as it really wasn't a foul... Liverpool should have had about 4 or 5, with a midfield of Williams, Matic, Fred, Pereira and James - it was pretty obvious that United were gonna get stuffed though. Least you've stopped playing Lingard lol.
Rashford out for 3 months though... now I expect United to really start dropping places in the league.
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We could have got a goal or two back though. The scoreline didn't reflect the balance of play. Like I said above in that last 15 minutes or so there were some VERY anxious scousers in the crowd and watching at home. If we had got a goal at that point we could have gone on to win it.
Ollie REALLY needs to knock zonal marking on the head. I've never been a big fan of it.
Rashford being out for three months isn't great news but we have Greenwood, James, Chongy and Martial to play in his position.
I think Pereira, Martial and Lingard will all be gone in the Summer, Pogba too. But how much will the board give Ollie to replace them all? A net spend of 60 million quid again probably :o ;D ;D ;D
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Oh shit. Jones is playing.
De Gea
Wan-Bissaka Jones Maguire Williams
Fred Matic
Pereira Mata James
Martial
Bench: Romero, Shaw, Dalot, Lingard, Gomes, Greenwood
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Martial injured. Doesn't look good.
We don't need both our goalscorers injured. Hopefully he'll be able to run it off.
:o
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He's fine now.
It's all United so far.
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Mistake by Maguire and VERY much against the run of play and Burnley go 0-1 up. Unbelievable. We've been all over them but haven't managed to get the ball in the net.
So bloody frustrating :o >:(
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0-1 at halftime. All United need to do is play the same way we did kn the first half but finish better. With better finishing we would be 2 or 3 goals up. >:(
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Wasn't Maguire it was Matic.
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Bollocks. 0-2 now, incredible finish. Shite. 😂😂😂
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The signing of Fernandes can't come soon enough. That's assuming that the Glazers can find enough spare change down the back of their sofa.
United need an almost complete rebuild and we're not going to manage that on a £60m net spend. Actually if you average it out it works out at £30m per transfer window 😯😭😂😂😂
Ollie has been doing this job with one hand tied behind his back.
The Glazers have taken over a billion quid out of this club when other owners are putting a billion quid into the club.
We need more deadwood out of the club but what's the point if a manager isn't given the funds to do a rebuild?
Ollie probably won't get the sack at the end of the season (and he doesn't deserve it imo) because who's going to want the job if you're only given £60m to spend? 😯
We need Fernandes at a BARE MINIMUM before the window closes. Will we get him? Probably not. 🤬😡🤬
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Old Trafford is virtually empty now.
2 minutes to go.
I'm starting to think that I'd want the journalist killing Saudis owning the club now. ANYONE is better than the Glazers.
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That's fulltime now and a big win for Burnley.
Things could have been SO different if we had bought Fernandes as soon as the transfer window opened.
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I'm still Ollie In because none of this is his fault. If anyone needs to leave the club it's Judge, Woodward and the Glazers.
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After that performance, I'd be surprised if Fernandes hasn't turned his phone off and destroyed it by now ;D
Closer to 15th than 4th.. good one Ole
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Things have got so bad that I'd not be entirely against those Saudis buying us now. I want the Glazers gone THAT bad.
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Apparently there have been 8 opportunities for United to close that gap to 4th place and we've lost or drawn 6 of them.
I do hope Bruno Fernandes wasn't watching that match, he'll want to join Burnley 😂😂😂
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knew we would throw another good chance away. Same old same.
Bruno deal is apparently off now as united wont pay the 67mil? so i heard.
So now they have left it too late again and will panic buy come deadline day and end up with yet another player we dont really want or need but they try to keep fans happy.
The club is a joke atm. Something needs to change big time either or both glaziers and woodward gone and two or 3 class players in. But i cant see any of that happening anytime soon. If we loose today in FA cup no trophies this season lol
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Got a bet on tranmere to win today ;D definitely worth a shot with the form united are in.
Latest news is that you are gonna get Tevez back on loan ;D ;D ;D
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Apparently the Fernandes deal is back on. Again. They've basically done what they did with Maguire and Wan-Bissaka - taken ages to negotiate a deal to waste a bit of time and then just paid what the club were asking for. Gives them an excuse for not signing any more players.
If Maguire and Wan-Bissaka were signed when the Summer window opened, and Fernandes was signed when the Winter window opened everyone would expect the other three or four signings that we need.
And now Barcelona have also put in a bid according to reports. We've needed a player like this for quite some time now, I'll be REALLY pissed off if we end up losing him because Woodward is playing silly buggers.
Hopefully it's going to be sorted in time for him to play against Wolves, although I'm still expecting large sections of the crowd to walk out in the 58th minute so not sure what he'll make of that. ;D
I'll only believe this deal is done when I see him holding the bloomin shirt tbh.
And that Tevez story is nonsense...I hope!!! ;D
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Brunoooooooo!!!
Fernandes starts today for United:
De Gea
Wan-Bissaka Lindelof Maguire Shaw
Fred Pereira
Mata Fernandes James
Martial
Bench: Romero, Jones, Dalot, Lingard, Greenwood, Chong, Williams
We should have signed him and Haaland on 1st January tbh, we would probably be fighting for third place if we had.
Chelsea dropped another two points earlier too. :o
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0-0 at halftime. We've had 5 shots on goal, only 1 on target by Fernandes. Wolves have had 7 and 2 on target.
Fernandes has had a pretty quiet game so far. His passing, as expected, hasn't been great but he's not shy about having a shot from distance and he's picked out a few good positions but hasn't had the ball passed to him.
Quite a tight game so far.
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Also going to be interesting to see how many fans walk out in the 68th minute in the second half. :o
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I didn't notice anyone walking out lol ;D
Final score 0-0 and a good debut for Fernandes, not sure who got the MOTM award because the stream was playing up but he must have been in the running.
;D
Disappointing that we couldn't close that gap down to 4 points but Fernandes is going to be such an important player going forward.
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he had a decent debut tbh and will have alot to offer going forward. puts a tackle in too.
Another poor game all round though and pretty boring.
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Got a bet on tranmere to win today ;D definitely worth a shot with the form united are in.
Latest news is that you are gonna get Tevez back on loan ;D ;D ;D
How much you lose ? :)
United on a shit pitch actually looked good
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Fernandes is going to be great for us, could be the thing that gets us 4th place. The Spuds won today which hasn't done us any favours though.
With a bit of luck we'll have either McTominay or Pogba back after the mid Winter break, or maybe even both!
Ollie is supporting Martial after that godawful performance saying he was just fatigued rather than being a lazy fucker. Hopefully this is his last season for United, and Pereira and Lingard too with a bit of luck.
There's talk of United having talks with Pochettino to take over for next season but I can't see the club letting Ollie go unless we have a real disastrous end to the season. We got to the Semis of the League Cup and were narrowly beaten to the Final, we're still in the FA Cup, still in the Europa League and are still in the running for 4th place.
All of his signings have been good so far and he's had the balls to get rid of some of the deadwood with more to follow - something that NONE of the managers after Fergie did.
I'm still Ollie In. Would Pochettino be doing any better than Ollie with the injuries we've had so far this season? Probably not imo.
Plus he hasn't won a single trophy so far in his managerial career. At least Ollie has won 7, albeit 4 with the United reserves and 3 with Molde.
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It wouldn't surprise me if olly said he will step aside and let poch come in maybe with a role still at the club. I dont actually think deep down he believes hes got all the attributes of a world class manager to win premier leagues, champions leagues and bring in the very best players and manage them well. I think Poch is a world class manager. He hasnt won anything granted and hes still learning alot. But what he did at southamption for the youth and players he brought through was imressive. He also had a solid side at spurs and they were playing really well as a team. He can clearly spot talent and get a good team spirit. I think hes a lot stronger mentally and dont take a lot of shit from the players.
I think it should happen, Im not sure if it will though.
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He's nowhere near a world class manager. You can't be a world class manager if you bottle it in Cup Finals and Semis.
And if he does take over he will end up having the exact same problem that Ollie has had - he won't have enough money to spend. A club the size and stature of United having ~£100m to spend for the last two seasons is ridiculous.
Ollie needs to stay and be given the opportunity to build a side imo.
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when i say world class manager i mean potentially he can be, He isnt now i agree.
Hes by far a better manager than oly will ever be. Im not even sure olly should be a manager.
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Ollie will do fine as long as he's given the time to build a side. He's already started to get rid of the deadwood - Fellaini, Lukaku, Valencia, Smalling, Sanchez are all either gone or will be going.
Martial, Pereira and Lingard will be gone in the Summer.
Do you honestly believe that Pochettino would do any better with a side missing McTominay, Pogba and Rashford? That's our three best players gone.
We were narrowly knocked out of the League Cup Final, are still in the FA Cup, still in the Europa League and are still in for 4th place. Ollie isn't doing too bad considering he's only been able to field his strongest side twice this season.
We need to stick with Ollie.
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No he probably couldn't do any better with the team atm. Im talking about in the long run, His tactical knowledge, His management skills and mentality. His man management skills the whole package. Poch is a far better manager than olliie and if you dont agree with that then your blinded by the thought you want ollie to do well.
Narrowly knocked out of the league cup ? We got absolutely battered by city in first leg they just took it easy second half. Also in the second leg as they were winning anyway.
We have lost far too many games against lesser teams which if we had won we would easily be in the top 4.
Will see what happens but i hope things change come end of the season.
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I'd rather have almost ANYONE doing the job than Pochettino. He bottles it when it comes to winning trophies. This is why he has NEVER won a trophy in his entire managerial career. He just doesn't have what it takes.
We'll probably see an improvement in United's results just by having Fernandes in the side before you even start to think about Pogba, McTominay and Rashford being back (although I think we might not see Rashford back until the end of the season).
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Okay. Own up. Who broke the bloody forum for a day or so?!!? :o ;D ;D ;D
Ollie continued his good record against the Big 6 by beating the Chelsea Rent Boys by 2 goals to nil. Helped by a dodgy VAR decision that stopped Maguire getting sent off in the first half though, although I do think that (if you watch the incident again in slow motion) BOTH players could have gone off. It looks like Maguire reacted to a stamp on his hip so if one has to go then they both should go. There was less contact on Maguire but it was still violent conduct.
So that's us 3 points behind Chelsea in 4th place and 2 points behind Spurs in 5th place.
And with City having a 2 season ban from Europe starting next season a 5th place finish will end up with a Champions League place next season. City will appeal it to death and probably get it reduced to 1 year I think, although I'm surprised that criminal charges haven't been filed tbh because they've committed fraud.
Chelsea have got some real tough matches coming up too. Mind you, saying that we'll probably get hammered by Watford on Sunday because they'll probably park the proverbial bus.
Fernandes has been pure class so far, makes you wonder where in the table we'd be if we had signed him in the Summer. Wouldn't surprise me if he ends up getting 5+ goals and 10+ assists before the end of the season. 8)
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Back to a back 4 again for United. Team news:
De Gea
Wan Bissaka Lindelof Maguire Shaw
Fred Matic
Greenwood Fernandes James
Martial
Bench: Romero, Bailly, Williams, McTominay, Mata, Chongy, Ighalo
Happy with that side I think.
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Watford the more dangerous side at the moment, quite an open game.
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Brunooooooo!!!
Fernandes wins and scores a penalty. It's always a bit funny seeing him take pens because he always does a funny little jump after his run up just before he hits the ball. 😂😂😂
1-0 to United and Fernandes has scored his first of many here today. So that's 3 appearances, 1 goal and 1 assist so far. He'll end up scoring 5+ and assisting 10+ before the season is over I reckon.
United started growing into the game a bit more after around 20 minutes or so.
Bruno Fernandes the best player on the pitch by far in that second half.
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Watford goal disallowed for handball ;D
Phew! ;D
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Lovely goal from Martial! 😯😁😎
2-0 to United 😁
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Greenwood made it 3-0 and in the last 10 minutes a triple substitution - McTominay on for Fred, Chongy on for Greenwood and Ighalo on for Martial.
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And that's United getting 3 points with a 3-0 win. 😎😁
So that leaves us in 5th place, 3 points behind Chelsea!
So bloody annoying that the board didn't allow Ollie to buy Fernandes in the Summer. We've definitely found our Pogba replacement.
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Another 2 points dropped by Fat Frank again and the red scouse gits have FINALLY lost a match.
Big match for United tomorrow though, every game at the moment is a must win game.
If we can keep Fernandes fit we HAVE to be favourites to get 4th place. Chelsea have got the red scouse gits and Wolves as their last two games and we've got Spurs on 15th March and West Ham and Leicester in our last two games.
Makes you wonder where we would have been in the table if we had signed Fernandes in the Summer!!! :o >:(
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Looks like we're playing 4-3-3 with a number 6! 😯
De Gea
Wan Bissaka Lindelof Maguire Shaw
McTominay Matic Fred
Greenwood Martial Fernandes
Not sure how that's going to work out tbh, Fred is playing Pogba's role there where I'd expect Fernandes to be and Fernandes is playing out wide in Rashford's role.
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Fucking hell lol, HUUUUUGE cock up from De Gea puts Everton 1-0 up. What a twat 😯😂😂😂
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Playing with a diamond instead!
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United popping the ball around very nicely, looking the most likely to score next so far.
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Brunoooooooooo!!!
First goal from open play and his third United goal. The keeper should have saved that though I think.
So that's three goals and two(?) assists I think.
We deserve to be ahead on the balance of play though.
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Plenty of bookings so far.
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1-1 at halftime and Everton were struggling to cope with our diamond. Greenwood has had a pretty poor game so far though. He'll need to up his game for the second half I think.
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Oh shit. An own goal! 2-1 to Everton!!!
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Goal disallowed for offside!!!
Fucking hell!
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1-1 final score, both keepers made up for their earlier cock ups. Ancelotti has just been sent off lol 😂😂😂
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Wolves have just beat Spurs 2-3, so that leaves us in 5th place, 3 points behind Chelsea and Wolves in 6th place. Both of us have 42 points and we're ahead on GD. Spurs on 40 points in 7th place.
Real pressure on Spurs against us on 15th!
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Chelsea are 2-0 up so far 😭😡
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4-0 now 🤬😡
Team news for United:
De Gea
Lindelof Maguire Shaw
Wan Bissaka Matic Fred Williams
Fernandes
James Martial
Bench: Romero, Bailly, Tuanzebe, McTominay, Mata, Ighalo, Greenwood
So it's looking like 3-4-3 with 3/5 at the back to cope with City's pressing and split strikers with Fernandes playing through the middle.
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Martial puts United 1-0 up, another assist from Fernandes. Quite a clever free kick but the keeper should have saved it.
Ollie's game plan is working so far, giving City plenty of possession and catching them on the break. Bit risky though.
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Fred booked for diving, looked like a penalty to me 😡🤬😡🤬😡
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1-0 at halftime and United have been the better side by far. City have had nearly 70% possession and have done bugger all with it. They've had one shot on goal and it was on target. United have had 7 on goal and 3 on target. 😎😁😎
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A MUCH better half from the Berties this half. United look like they're hanging on to their lead rather than controlling the game. 😭
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This half REALLY isn't doing my nerves any good lol 😂😂😂
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Fucking hell, another cock up from the keeper and McTominay scores with an INCREDIBLE finish.
2-0 😁😂😂😁
And that's full time. 😎😁😎😂
A great performance from United or a poor performance from City? I'd go for the former just for the quality of our defending.
Despite the amount of possession that the Bitters had United were in control of the game. There was a 30 minute period in the second half when we lost it a bit but we still defended well.
So that's us 3 points behind Chelsea. It's a shame that the Everton that turned up against the Chelsea Rent Boys didn't turn up against us last week. 😭
The race for 4th place will probably go down to the wire I think, but there's a good chance that 5th place will be enough for Champions League football next season!
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Just realised that both Chelsea and us are creeping up on Leicester too!!! So third place could be up for grabs as well!!! 😯
Ollie has beaten Pep three times this season now!!!
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3 goals and 4 assists from Fernandes in 9 appearances. This is why so many of us United fans were screaming at Woodward to sign him last Summer.
We certainly wouldn't be in 5th place if we had him playing from the start of the season. >:(
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Bugger me, harv. Surprised you haven't started watching Rugby League now Liverpool are the kinds of the North West!
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They're not kings of ANYTHING yet.
And if United manage to sign Sancho and can keep Fernandes fit then the big problem that United have had since Fergie retired (scoring goals) will be over.
Normal service will be resumed sooner rather than later. Our transition period is nearly over. 😎😁😎
Plus rugby is pants. 😂
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FOOTBALL.
IS.
BACK!!!!!!!
Starting Wednesday 17th June!!!
Awesome! 8)
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Chelsea have agreed to sign Werner cos the red scouse gits are too skint to pay his release fee 😂😂😂
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Great to see football back 😎😁😎
Watching Villa vs Sheffield United. There's a LOT less tackles going in. Players probably too paranoid cos of COVID-19. Ollie had better tell my lot to get stuck in on Friday!!!
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Looks like the goal line technology is broken 😂
Sheffield United should be 0-1 up.
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0-0 at halftime. 😁
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Villa definitely the better side, if it wasn't for Henderson making 3 or 4 great saves Sheffield United would be losing this. They were REALLY unlucky with that goal not being given though.
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0-0 final score, not a great result for us, but not a disaster either. If they win their game in hand then they'll be a point ahead of us but we've got them next week.
We've got an easier run in on paper though.
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Actually, scrub that! Just looked at the table. We're a point ahead and we've both played 29 games. We were 2 points ahead of them before the game started, thought we were on even points! 😁
Still means that we need to win our next two games though!
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Technology fucking the blades again ::)
That’s about 15 points we’re owed
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Atleast Hawkeye apologised for this one ;)
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Would rather have the 3 points and laugh at Hawkeye costing someone else
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Going to be interesting to see if Sheffield United take legal action. They could end up with a good case if they decide to do so.
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With the fixtures we’ve got left I think Europe is probably out of our reach but these decisions have definitely cost us vital points.
Can’t see us going down the court route I don’t see the point in biting the hand that feeds
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Well you've got us on Wednesday so all is not lost. The downside to that match from your point of view is that Henderson won't be between the sticks due to the loan deal.
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Shite. Terrible defending and De Gea should have saved that too. United go 1-0 down. 😡🤬😡
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De Gea made up with that mistake by making a cracking save, denying Son Spurs' second goal. Phew! 😯
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Spurs go in 1-0 up at halftime 😭
We started off well enough but once they went a goal ahead Spurs settled down and played better.
We've had 4 attempts on goal, all 4 on target, Spurs have had 6 but only 3 on target.
I think that Pogba might get on at halftime.
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Pogba and Greenwood on for Fred and James.
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Pogba and Fernandes starting to weave a little magic. The pace has picked up since the subs.
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Fucking hell!!! Fantastic save from Lloris 😯
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Lindelof off injured, Matic on at centre half, Ighalo replaces Martial.
Penalty won by Pogba! Fernandes slots it home. 1-1 now 😁
😎😎😎😎😎
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Daft decision by Pogba gives a free kick in a dangerous area. Luckily Spurs wasted it 😯
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Bailly on for the McTominator, Matic in midfield now.
United claiming for a penalty. No chance it was one, right decision there. Unfortunately lol 😂
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1-1 full time.
An early taste of what Pogba and Fernandes in the same side can do.
If we sign Sancho I think Pogba will sign a new deal now that we have a manager that's making a few decent and sensible signings.
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Early tips for relegation are Norwich, Bournemouth and West Ham!
All 3 have looked terrible
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A shame that arse have reached 40 points now. They SHOULD be safe from relegation ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
More points dropped by Sheffield United today and Chelsea have gone 3 points ahead of United in 4th place with their win earlier. We've got an easier run in on paper than them both so the race to 4th place is still on, and we're playing Sheffield United on Wednesday which is a must-win game for both sides.
The dodgy thieving red scouse gits will win the Premierhip if they win later on tonight :'( :'( :'(
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Not sure what table you're looking at, but Chelsea are 5 points ahead of united.. ::) And you're joint 5th with wolves, never mind Sheffield United
A dodgy penalty call is the only reason you're 5th too...
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It was in the Sky Sports app. Looks like they made a cock up, they had Chelsea on 49 points for some reason. 5 points shouldn't be a problem though because you'll drop plenty of points due to your more difficult run in.
I'm not counting Wolves as a competitor for 4th place, just Chelsea and Sheffield United, because I don't think they're good enough to get there. I'd say the same thing about Sheffield United too if it wasn't for Henderson who fortunately for us won't be between the sticks on Wednesday.
If Sheffield United take any points from us on Wednesday then that's a completely different kettle of fish altogether.
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Maybe you've forgotten, but in your 8 remaining "easy" fixtures.. you only beat 2 of them in the reverse fixture... Brighton and Leicester..
You actually lost to Bournemouth, Palace and West Ham and drew to the rest ;D ::)
If you lose on Wednesday, you're out of the top 4 race.. end of.
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Maybe you've forgotten, but in your 8 remaining "easy" fixtures.. you only beat 2 of them in the reverse fixture... Brighton and Leicester..
You actually lost to Bournemouth, Palace and West Ham and drew to the rest ;D ::)
If you lose on Wednesday, you're out of the top 4 race.. end of.
Most of those losses and draws happened without Pogba, Rashford and/or Fernandes.We were playing with the likes of Pereira and Lingard, who are both on their way out of the club, and Young, who has left the club. We're simply a MUCH better side than we were at that time right now.
And even if we DO lose on Wednesday top 4 still isn't out of reach. Leicester are going to continue to drop points for the rest of the season I think, they'll be lucky to get 5th.
We've got a solid back four and now that we have Fernandes and Pogba both playing we have two players there that can unlock sides that are parking the bus. We're on a 12 match unbeaten run that has seen us (in all competitions) winning 8, drawing 4, scoring 30 goals and only conceding 3.
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Good start from Sheffield so far.
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Sheffield caught napping after a throw in from United. Martial scored and Rashford had the assist. If you had blinked you would have missed it! 😯😁
1 - 0 to United 😎
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Rashford fluffed an open goal, but to be fair he didn't have much time to react. 🤔
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Water break. After a good start from Sheffield, United have dominated the game following the goal.
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And that's a brace for Martial, Wan-Bissaka with the assist.
2 - 0 to United. 😎😁😎
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This is pretty bloody disgraceful.
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The ref should step in here.
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And force United to give Sheffield a go on the ball 😂😂😂
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Wolves have gone 1-0 up. They're probably going to go on a run after I said they weren't a challenge for the top four places 😂😂😂
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A hat-trick for Martial. Really good build up and a great finish. That's his first one for United.
Has to be the MOTM but every single one of the United players have been exceptional tonight. 😎😁😎
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5 subs for United. Ighalo, Mata, James, McTominay and Pereira on for Martial, Greenwood, Rashford, Pogba and Fernandes.
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Ended up with 3-0 being the final score. Great to see that so far United are continuing the moment we built up before Kung Flu messed things up.
Next up is Norwich away in the FA Cup on Saturday. This puts Ollie in a bit of an awkward position. Does he field the strongest side possible to help improve match sharpness or does he field a weaker side to rest players and give our fringe players a chance to build up match sharpness?
I think he might try and do a bit of both. 🤔😂
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Games before their first Premier League hat-trick:
Ronnie - 147
Roonster - 139
Martial - 138
Not bad going 😎😁
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Bloody Chelsea giving the red scouse gits the Premiership title. I was STILL hoping that they would end up throwing it away at the last minute and go 31 years without winning the top division title >:( ;D >:(
Oh well, never mind. We'll win it next season if we manage to sign Sancho 8)
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Someone on a YouTube video has just pointed out something that I've never thought about before - United were only two points away from winning the Premiership every season from 92/93 to 00/01 :o
Bloody arse and Rovers ;D ;D ;D
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Team news for United vs Brighton:
De Gea
Wan-Bissaka Lindelof Maguire Shaw
Matic Pogba
Greenwood Fernandes Rashford
Martial
So the same side that beat Sheffield United, arguably our strongest line up.
Every game for United, Chelsea, Leicester and Wolves is a must win game now, but given the form of the Foxes I think they may drop down the table before the season ends.
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Nice goal from Greenwood puts United 0-1 up after 16 minutes. 😁
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Another goal from Fernandes, Pogba with the assist. Another nice build up too.
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Linesman is a clown, that ball went out of play in the build up. Not that I'm complaining too much 😂😂😂
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Fucking hell. What a SUBLIME counterattack from United. Assist from Greenwood and a great finish from Fernandes.
Having Sancho added to this side will guarantee us the Premier League next season if we don't get screwed by injuries.
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That's 15 games unbeaten now with this match ending 0-3 to United.
So 15 games played, 11 won, 4 drawn, For 38 Against 4.
People are claiming that Fernandes is the difference but I'd say it's a combination of three things:
1) Having Ferdinand in the side
2) Having Pogba back but most important of all
3) Matic (and other CDMs when he's been missing) passing the ball forwards instead of backwards and sideways.
It's taken quite a while to break Matic out of that habit in particular because he was passing backwards and sideways for so long that it took Ollie a while to get him (and others playing the same position) to drop the habit.
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Big pressure on Leicester and Chelsea for their matches tomorrow. I'm expecting Chelsea to win and Leicester to drop more points. 😁
Third place is up for grabs if we keep this form going. 😎😁😎
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3 points dropped by the Foxes like I predicted 😁
Chelsea and West Ham go in at 1-1 at halftime, West Ham should be 2-1 up though after a controversially disallowed goal in the first half.
Still, I thought before the match started that Chelssa winning was a nailed on certainty so going in level at halftime isn't a bad result. I just hope they end up dropping points after 90 minutes has gone. 😁
We're currently 3 points behind Leicester in third place, and I can see their decline continuing right until the end of the season. They might end up in 6th or 7th place the way they've been going 😯
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Oh shit!!! 😯
The Hammers have just hammered Chelsea (well, okay, they only just beat them 3-2 with a goal in the 89th minute!)!!! 😁
Wasn't expecting that!!!
Went shopping with it 1-1 😯😂
So that's Leicester in 3rd place on 55 points and a +29 goal difference, Chelsea in 4th place on 54 points and a +13 goal difference and United in 5th place with 52 points and a +20 goal difference!!! 😯😁😯😁😎
So within 3 points of 3rd place with Leicester to play Palace, arse, Sheffield United, Spurs and us.
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An unchanged side for United again, we haven't had 3 consecutive matches unchanged since 2006 😯
I am a bit worried about fatigue now, Fernandes was looking pretty knackered in the last match. 🤔
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Oh shit!!! We've just gone 0-1 down!!! 😱
De Gea should have saved that. 😡🤬😡
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1-1 now, Greenwood with the goal and yet another assist from Fernandes. 😎😁😎
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Penalty for United!
Rashford to take it...
...and he slots it home. 😁
That's goal number 20 for Rashford 😎
2-1 to United. 😎😁😎
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A cracking finish from Martial just outside the 18 yard box. A ridiculous amount of curve on the ball and he nearly broke the net 😯😂
And that's halftime, 3-1 to United.
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Bailly on for Lindelof at halftime. Not sure if he's resting him or he's picked up an injury though. 🤔
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Away bollocks. Concentration has gone out the window. A combination of errors. Penalty for Bournemouth due to a handball from Bailly.
3-2 now.
😡🤬😡
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Didn't look like handball to me. Looked like the top of the shoulder.
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Could have been 3-3. Goal disallowed for offside.
What the fuck are United playing at this half?!!? 😯😡🤬😡😯
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Another great goal from Greenwood. This kid could end up being one of the world's best players in a few years. 😁
4-2 to United.
Incredible goal.
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Brunooooooo!!! 😁
Great free kick but it's going to VAR for a potential offside.
And now my stream has died 😂
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Looks like it was good.
5-2. 😁😎😁
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That's 43 goals scored and 6 conceded in our 16 game unbeaten run now.
Glad that we're winning games scoring 5 or more goals again. Up until the year 2000 (if I'm remembering correctly!) we averaged 3 games per season scoring 5 or more goals.
Ollie has got us scoring goals, the only thing that has stopped us winning a few Premier League titles since Fergie retired.
Rashford just had one disallowed for offside, could have been 6 but it was the right decision.
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No hat trick for Greenwood, James comes on for him. ☹😂
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5-2 final score and that's us in fourth place. A bit of a shaky performance at the start of the second half though but am happy with the five goals we've scored, particularly Martial's screamer.
I'm REALLY hoping that Ollie can get rid of Pereira and Lingard and bring in van de Beek and Grealish, and also sign Sancho. Even if we ONLY sign Sancho we should put in a good challenge for the Premier League.
Really happy with United at the moment. 😎😁😎
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arse beat Wolves 😯😁😎
Wasn't expect that at all!!!
Chelsea vs Watford is 0-0 so far but going by the stats it's only a matter of time before Chelsea score ☹😭☹
Premier League goals this season:
Greenwood - 8
Every other teenager in the competition combined - 7
😁😁😁😎😎😎😁😁😁
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There you go, 1-0 to Chelsea. 😭
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2-0 at halftime, looks like 3 points for Chelsea unless something drastic happens. 😡
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Finished 3-0 in the end. So that's us on 55 points in 5th, 3 points ahead of Wolves, Chelsea on 57 points in 4th and Leicester on 58 points in 3rd.
Glad that arse managed to beat Wolves because that gives us a little breathing room. Ollie reckons the top 4 will go down to the wire but I think that Leicester will be lucky to get 5th.
So good to see Manchester United play like Manchester United again, makes you wonder what the table would look like if we had signed Fernandes before the season started instead of in January. 😯🤔😯
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Bruno Fernandes Premier Leage stats so far. 9 games, 6 goals and 5 assists. :o ;D 8)
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Another win for Chelsea and Leicester dropped another two points against arse.
If we win on Thursday against Villa that will leave us 1 point behind Leicester in 4th and 2 points behind Chelsea in 3rd.
Every game is like a Cup Final for United, Chelsea and Leicester at the moment. If we win all of our remaining games we're guaranteed 4th place at least.
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Sheffield United beat the Woolufs 1-0 tonight.
If we beat Villa tomorrow then that will put us 6 points ahead of Wolves in 6th place, giving us a nice cushion between us should we need it.
City will end up getting a one year ban once their appeal is heard instead of two years I think so 5th place will give us Champions League football next season.
I still want third place though 😁
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Another unchanged side, we haven't had this many consecutive unchanged sides since 2006. 😯
I guess with every game being must win Ollie isn't taking any chances. He'll probably make plenty of changes for the FA Cup match cos we're only playing a Mickey Mouse side for that one 😝😂😝
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A great start from Villa but...
Brunoooooooo!!!
Wins a clever penalty and scores. 😁
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Rashford has just pulled up with an injury 😯
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Looks like he's run it off. Phew!
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And Greenwood makes it 0-2.
Great play from Martial in the build up and with the assist. And of course a supreme finish from Greenwood. This kid is practically impossible to defend against. 😎😁😎
United 0-2 up at halftime.
United have a chance to set a record for the most amount of consecutive wins by 3 goals or more if they get another goal without conceding.
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Another two points dropped by the Spuds too. Levy was INSANE giving Maureen a 5 year deal. He's going to be stuck between a rock and a hard place at the end of the season in terms of finances.
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Pogba makes it 0-3 thanks to some awful defending from Villa.
If we don't concede that's a record 4 Premiership games won by 3 goals or more.😎😁😎👍😎😁😎
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Ended up setting that record, 0-3 final score but could have been 5 or 6.😁😎
We're coming for Liverpool next season.😎😎😎
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Some stats about Mason Messi/Lionel Greenwood:
10 Premier League starts on the right wing - 10 goals
Strike success rate:
Left foot 33% 😯
Right foot 20%
So one in three attempts on goal with his left foot ends up in the back of the net. Fucking hell. 😯😂
And he's scored his 10th Premier League goal tonight, so beating the Roonster in his first season as an 18 year old and on a par with Fowler. And there's 4 games to play before the season ends. 😎😁😎
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Oops, he's not on a par with Fowler, yet. Fowler scored 12. So he needs another 3 goals in 4 games to get 13. Easy peasy. 😁😎
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Oh shit!!! 😯
Sheffield United have just BLUDGEONED Chelsea 3-0 😯
If Leicester don't beat Bournemouth tomorrow and we beat Southampton on Monday we're in 3rd place. 😁
I absolutely LOVE the end of the season when there's something to play for! 😎😁
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Thought that Greenwood had scored 10 Premier League goals, he's only scored 9. So he's even with the Roonster at the moment. He needs to score 2 more goals to beat Fowler who has scored 10 and I don't think there's much of a chance of beating Michael Owen who scored 18 goals in a season whilst 18 or younger. 😯
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Unchanged side again, first time this has happened this many times since 1993 😯
You have to worry about fatigue and injuries now though, but I'm sure that Ollie will be making changes to training to try and mitigate any potential injury problems.
A tough match though seeing as they turned over City.
A win will put us in third place, as will us winning all of our remaining games.
Now that the CAS has bizarrely overturned City's ban completely rather than doing what they thought they would and cut the ban from two years to one, finishing in the top four is now essential. Fifth place won't cut it.
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Aaaaargh!!!
We've gone 0-1 down and my streams have ALL died!!! 🤬😡🤬
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2-1 up at halftime and my streams are sorted now. Missed three goals though.
One each for Rashford and Martial, both decent goals too.😁
The Saints must fancy their chances in the second half, they played pretty well for the first 45 minutes apparently.
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Shaw off injured, Williams on to replace him.
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James and McTominay on for Greenwood and Fernandes. Fernandes hasn't had a great game and he still got an assist! 😯😂
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We've been happy to defend our one goal lead for the last 10 minutes or so. Not great for my bloody nerves 🤬😡🤬🤔
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Williams off with a head injury and no subs left so we're down to 10 men. 😭
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Shite. 2-2 now. 🤬😡🤬
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That's a 2-2 final score, unbeaten run continues but we're now in 5th place instead of 3rd. 😭
If we win our remaining three games we're guaranteed 4th place so not a complete disaster I guess. ☹
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Looking at form mate I have you guys nailed on for 3rd
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Looking at form mate I have you guys nailed on for 3rd
Not certain whether we can keep it up though. I think that last night was one consecutive unchanged line up too far, he'll make at least a couple of changes on Thursday I think, and there's quite a drop off when we make subs.
This is why us signing Sancho, van de Beek and/or Grealish is so important I think.
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Bah! A 1-0 win for Chelsea tonight ☹
Hopefully Sheffield United are going to do us a favour tomorrow against Leicester!
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A couple of changes for United, Shaw and Williams aren't fit so we have Fosu-Mensah as the left back, and Matic is rested on the bench with McTominay taking his place.
De Gea
Wan-Bissaka Lindelof Maguire Four-Mensah
Pogba McTominay
Fernandes
Greenwood Rashford
Martial
I was expecting Dalot to start as the left back tbh.
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Good start from Palace so far producing a decent save by De Gea from a Zaha shot.
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Quite a tight game so far, only eight attempts on goal, four from United, and the only two on target have been from Palace.
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A really nice goal from Rashford and yet ANOTHER assist from Fernandes.
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Well that's United a goal up at halftime and we don't deserve the lead imo. Not that I'm complaining too much 😁
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I think that's 7 goals and 8 assists from Fernandes now. REALLY pisses me off that we didn't sign him last Summer, we would probably be in a battle for the Premier League with the red scouse gits right now if we had.
There was always this small voice in the back of my mind asking, 'Can he produce the goods in the Premier League?' but I was pretty confident that he could.
This guy signing for us is every bit of an influence that Cantona was in 93. If we end up signing Sancho this transfer window then everyone else might as well just give up and stay at home next season 😝😂😂😂
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Aw bollocks!!! 🤬😡🤬
1-1 now 😭
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Phew! Ruled out for offside!!! 😁
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Matic and Lingard on for McTominay and Greenwood.
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Martial makes it 0-2, another decent fast break and a peach of a pass from Fernandes through a defender's legs to Rashford who gives it to Martial with one touch and Martial sticks it in the back of the net 😎😁😎
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0-2 final score and a deserved win for United in the end. Fernandes JUST beat Pogba for the MOTM award I think.
That's 19 games unbeaten, hope we can get a couple of wins in our last two Premier League games and get ourselves Champions League qualification without needing to win the Europa League! 😎
Next up is Chelsea in the FA Cup on Sunday, am expecting a shitload of changes for that one though, Fernandes needs a break I think.
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That's 19 games unbeaten now 😎😁😎
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Well I never expected Maureen to do us any favours but the Yids have just beaten Leicester 3-0 😲😁
So that's evened out our goal difference and us with a game in hand against the Hammers on Wednesday. 😁
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Just posted in the FA Cup thread by mistake lol
A 1-1 draw for United and a 5-3 defeat for Chelsea sees us in 3rd place by Goal Difference, Leicester in 4th and Chelsea in 5th a point behind us two.
Only a win against Wolves can get Chelsea Champions League football next season because their Goal Difference is screwed. If they draw they'll end up in 5th place regardless of the result of Leicester vs United. If they lose they're also obviously screwed. 😲
A win will guarantee us 3rd place. 😎😁😎
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Chelsea can lose and still finish 4th you moron ::) we just need one point to be sure. Or win the champions league again.
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Oops, my bad, I was misreading the Premier League title I think. Thought you were in 5th! ;D
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Back four for United, still no Shaw:
De Gea
Wan-Bissaka Lindelof Maguire Williams
Pogba Matic
Greenwood Fernandes Rashford
Martial
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Leicester are pressing Matic and both of our full backs out of the game so far ☹
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Having a bad day for streams too 🤬😡🤬
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Fernandes scores but was a couple of yards offside.
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Chelsea go 1-0 up just before halftime and a flurry of chances missed by United sees us going in level, 0-0.
That puts Chelsea in 3rd and us in 4th as things stand right now. A win for Leicester will see us in 5th place, and needing a Europa League trophy win to get Champions League football next season.
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2-0 to Chelsea now and the United game could go either way, it's quite a tight game so far.
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Penalty for United and Brunooooooooo puts it away! 😁😎😁
0-1 to United.
Just before the drinks break too so good timing. That puts us back in third and Chelsea in fourth place as things stand.
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A straight red for Evans, that was a leg breaker 😲
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Looks like Villa have stayed up, means we won't get Grealish on the cheap ☹
And a second goal from Lingard of all players. Hopefully his final goal for United 😝😂
And that's full-time, final score 0-2 and third place for United. Not bad for a team that was 8th around Christmas 😎
I told ya we'd do it jman 😁
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Told me you'd do what... spend 200m and still only finish 3rd with no trophies? Yeah.. well done ::)
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I told you that we would get a top four place at the end of the season when we were in 8th place in December.
And getting Champions League football means that it's going to be easier to sign the likes of Sancho.
For 5 out of the last 7 seasons since Fergie retired we've had a defensive record of a side capable of winning the Premier League, we've just been short of goals. An extra 20+ goals per season would have seen us winning a few Premier League titles 😎
If we add Sancho to the forward line of Rashford and Martial with Fernandes behind them we've got a good chance of winning the Premier League next season if we're lucky with injuries.
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You spent 200m and haven't won a trophy or come anywhere near 1st place... i wouldnt be feeling too smug about that.. especially since the fa agenda handed you penalty after penalty and ensured you finished in a CL place ;D
I can, because at the start of the season I said I'd be happy with 4th with or without a trophy.. given we lost our top goalscorer and couldn't buy anyone and have a manager with little experience..
Next season is different, I'm expecting a title push with the money we've already spent... you should be expecting the title with the amount of money you've spent... if mourinho couldn't do it, ogs certainly won't be the guy to do it though
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Well I'd say that 3rd place and reaching 2 Semi Finals with another Semi Final on the way isn't too shabby, particularly when you consider that Pogba has been injured for 9 months and Rashford and Martial have also had long term injuries
And with regards to United's spending they haven't actually spent that much these last few years because the Glazers are as tight as a gnat's chuff. We had a net spend of £60m or so last Summer and around the same amount the Summer before that. Considering the size and stature of the club that's pretty much peanuts. And we wouldn't have signed Brunooooooooo in January if we didn't have a shitload of injuries too.
And of course I'm expecting a title push next season if we sign Sancho. Like I've said before United have had a defensive record capable of winning the Premiership for 5 out of the last 7 seasons since Fergie retired, our problem since Fergie went has been scoring goals. Another 20+ goals each of those seasons and we would have won a few Premier League titles. A front line of Sancho, Martial and Rashford with Fernandes behind them will put us in a VERY good position in terms of a title challenge.
As for the penalties, yes, there has been a dodgy one or two but we've also had several stonewall penalties that WEREN'T given so these thinhs even out over the course of a season. We've always had more penalties awarded than other sides because we've always had players with pace running into the opposition box. If Chelsea aren't getting enough penalties for your liking I suggest you bring some more pace into your side.
And Maureen couldn't do it because these days he's a shite manager who completely RUINS the atmosphere in dressing rooms at EVERY SINGLE CLUB HE'S MANAGED. He does this on purpose because he knows that when he inevitably loses the dressing room and gets the sack he always gets a massive payout. Levy was insane giving him a 4 year deal, it's going to cost him a fortune. I honestly thought that after we fucked him off that he was finished as a manager because I couldn't see any club daft enough to give him a job given his GODAWFUL track record during the last few years.
United have shown progress since Ollie joined. All of his signings have been good, we're beating the top teams regularly and since we signed Brunooooooooooo we're also now able to beat sides parking the proverbial bus. Ollie will win us the Premier League, no doubt in my mind about that.
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There's now talk about the Sancho deal being off cos United aren't willing to splash the cash. If this is true I can see Woodward's house getting attacked again.
We're one of four clubs that haven't made any signings yet, this is getting embarrassing 🤬😡🤬
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There is now news breaking 'from a reliable sauce' that the Glazers have verbally agreed to sell the club to the Ortega family. 😲😂
Probably complete bollocks, although it could explain the very quick purchase of van de Beek, the Glazers will want to increase the value of the assets for the sale. So we could end up seeing us buying Badiashiele and Sancho a bit sharpish.
Probably not though 😂😂😂
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Team news for United for their first game of the season:
De Gea
Fosu-Mensah Lindelof Maguire Shaw
McTominay Pogba
James Fernandes Rashford
Martial
Bench: Henderson, Bailly, Greenwood, Fred, Ighalo, Wan-Bissaka, van de Beek.
Thought we might see van de Beek starting ahead of Pogba because the latter must have missed some training when he got COVID-19.
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Ffs, 0-1 down already 😲🤬😡🤬
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Our passing has been godawful so far!!! 🤬
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Bale has now officially rejoined Spurs. Could be a great loan deal if it works out but you do wonder how many games he's going to play.
United doing better now but passing is still pretty ropey and Palace are looking dangerous on the counter.
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0-1 down at halftime, think we might see a change or two during the break. United have been off the pace all the way through the first half but got back a bit of pace towards the end.
Think we need to bring someone on to stretch the play a bit more. van de Beek and/or Greenwood could be good options.
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Greenwood on for James. 😁
Called it 😎
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van de Beek on for Pogba, who's been poor.
And now it looks like a penalty for Palace.
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Yup. Penalty.
And we all know how shite De Gea is with pens.
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saved by De Gea 😲
Can't remember the last time that happened 😲
But it's a fucking retake 😭
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Zaha puts it away.
We're now 0-2 down and I can't see us getting anything out of this game now.
A disastrous start of the season for United. 🤬😡🤬
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Maybe this will convince the board to sign Sancho, it worked for Fernandes 😂😂😂😂😂
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Donny van de Beek gets his first goal for United. A bit lucky but fuck it 😂
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Ighalo on for Timbo, McTominay playing at right back.
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Bollocks. Zaha gets a brace. Game over.
Lindelof at fault for the goal.
1-3 to Palace. This is embarrassing 😭
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Ended up being a 1-3 loss for United. We were fucking AWFUL. Plenty of attempts on goal but only 4 on target. What a fucking embarrassing DISASTER 🤬😡🤬😭🤬😡🤬
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What's funny is that you genuinely sound surprised by that result.. it was a typical United performance...
Signing Sancho (which was never going to happen) is not going to fix the fact that you have a pile of shit at the back.. you need another clear out and more importantly, a manager and board that are capable of doing that.
Cue some hilarious panic buying in the next week now
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Gotta agree with Jman here, Harv.
Last nights result was nothing special for a neutral.
Man Utd has a board not willing to spend money, and a manager, who is I imagine too polite to try and persuade them to do so. Until that's resolved (which I doubt it will be anytime soon) I can see similar results following this season.
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What's funny is that you genuinely sound surprised by that result.. it was a typical United performance...
Signing Sancho (which was never going to happen) is not going to fix the fact that you have a pile of shit at the back.. you need another clear out and more importantly, a manager and board that are capable of doing that.
Cue some hilarious panic buying in the next week now
We're not a pile of shit at the back. We had one of the best defensive records in the Premier League last season. There's a need to improve it, and only ONE signing of a left-footed center back with pace will make a HUGE difference. I think the main problem yesterday is that due to Pogba having COVID-19, Maguire with his issues abroad, a couple of players having just come back from injury and only having one pre-season game United were off the pace and Palace had already played a couple of games.
I think you may be right about Sancho though, Woodward wrote in the programme yesterday not to expect any high value signings.
I don't think we'll have any panic buying, we'll buy players that we've scouted for a while. Probably Telles which could see Shaw playing at left back.
Gotta agree with Jman here, Harv.
Last nights result was nothing special for a neutral.
Man Utd has a board not willing to spend money, and a manager, who is I imagine too polite to try and persuade them to do so. Until that's resolved (which I doubt it will be anytime soon) I can see similar results following this season.
There have been reports of Ollie having a go at Woodward about not making signings and not making signings quick enough but what else can he do?
The worst thing about all of this is that we'll end up seeing some idiot fans calling for 'Ollie Out!', I've already seen a few online saying it. But the problem is going to be the same in a couple of years if he gets the push and a new manager comes in. He'll get a few quid to spend (but not nearly enough) and then won't get backed in his second season.
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Team news for United:
De Gea
Wan-Bissaka Lindelof Maguire Shaw
Matic Pogba
Fernandes
Greenwood Martial Rashford
Hopefully a better performance than that embarrassment against Palace 😲
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Greenwood scored but Rashford was offside with the assist. Would have been a nice goal if Rashford had timed it better.
Our passing is still pretty bad though here and there.
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Bruno gives away a daft penalty.
Brighton go 1-0 up and deserve to be winning the game 😭🤬😡🤬😭
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Maguire makes it 1-1. Bruno makes up for giving that penalty away with a good delivery from a free kick. Looks like an own goal rather than one for Maguire.
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And that's halftime, 1-1. United don't deserve to be level. ☹
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Penalty denied for Brighton and a yellow card rescinded for Pogba thanks to VAR, correct decision.
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Nice goal from Rashford and a nice assist from Fernandes. Rashford also had a goal disallowed for offside a few minutes before that. 1-2 to United.
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Bit lucky there. They ended up getting an equaliser with some GODAWFUL defending from United and it was looking like they had got a point, but a penalty deep into injury time saw Fernandes getting the winner at the very last minute.
2-3 to United and Brighton deserved at least a point from that, not that I'm complaining 😲😝😂😝😲
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Sancho has told his agent to 'pull all the stops' to get him to United. He didn't travel with Dortmund due to a 'respiratory illness' but that sounds like a load of old bollocks to me 😂 He's obviously throwing a sickie 😁
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I can't believe that these Muppets Judge and Woodward have made such a mess of things so much this Summer.
Liverpool, City, Chelsea, arse and Spurs have ALL improved their squads with several players and we've signed ONE so far with only a few days left until the window closes.
And we've got Spurs, one of our competitors for a top four place, to play on Sunday.
I'm at the point now where I'm thinking ownership of the club by Saudi journalist-killing bastards will be better than the Glazers.
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I’ll be honest pal I think Man U have the squad that can be up there I think Ole’s biggest problem is changing the attitude of the players so they turn up and perform every week not just when they can be arsed!
I’m hoping the signing of Brewster today kickstarts our season, yet again VAR has raped us so far and we have a tough run of fixtures coming up! could easily be 8/9 games in and still have 0 points :-[
Would be very difficult for us to stay up from there
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I still think we'll get fourth place, but it's not going to be easy. We would have been looking at third place again and closing the gap on second place if we'd have made some decent signings.
Still, there's a few days left until the window closes so we MIGHT sign a player or two. I'm just hoping we're not going to be signing Dembele, there are rumours that we're going to buy him. Even a loan would be a waste of time, he's going to be even more of a sicknote than Jones, and that's REALLY saying something.
The lack of support that Ollie has got from the board has been disgraceful.
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Apparently we're about to sign Cavani on a 2 year deal, subject to him passing a medical. He's 33 years old ffs 😲
This board are a fucking embarrassment 🤬😡🤬
And they're refusing to pay £18m for Telles too. Despite him only having 8 months left on his contract he's worth every penny of that fee. Same with Sancho too, he's worth £108m, he's a generational talent ffs.
I never thought I'd see United being skint and so tight arsed. Unbelievable.
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Very happy with the start Leeds have made to the season.
Scared the hell out of Liverpool on the first day of the season. Deservedly beat Fulham, even though we got sloppy after being 4-1 up, but we recovered well to see the game out. A 1-0 win against Sheffield United, with an amazing performance from our defence. We had a strong display against Man City right now, which could of gone either way in my opinion.
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Yup, I've been REALLY surprised by Leeds. They don't seem to be having problems getting those players they signed to gel at all. I thought they'd signed too many at once.
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We’ve only signed 3 for the first team. Rodrigo, Koch and Llorente. We signed Costa and Meslier too, but they were both on loan last season, and Harrison is on his 3rd loan spell from Man City.
The rest of the signings were for our U23’s. We seem to sign a new player weekly for the U23’s, only to never hear from them again after they’ve signed 🙄.
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Oh shit! Streams playing up and I've just missed three bloody goals 😲
United 1-2 down. 😭
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I wouldn’t bother trying to fix it Harv...this could be a battering for your lot.
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And now Martial gets sent off. Fucking hell.
We're going to get hammered now.
1-3.
We're fucked 🤬😡🤬
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Got my stream sorted out just after the third goal went in.
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The red card was soft, but I think it’s done you in now. It was very end to end before that and an open game.
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Yup, should have either been two reds or two yellows with the two yellows being the better option.
We're fucked now.
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1-5. 😭
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1-6. 🤬😡🤬😭😭😭🤬😡🤬
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And there's still 12 bloody minutes plus Injury Time to go 😲😂😂😂
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Lucky it wasn't 8 or 9.. an absolute embarrassment.. ole has to go, surely
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This isn't down to Ollie. This is down to the board not supporting Ollie.
Before the transfer window opened EVERYONE knew that Ollie needed a center back, a left back, a defensive midfielder, an attacking midfielder, a right winger and a striker.
Now with COVID-19 you can understand not getting all of these players needed, plus signing too many is asking for trouble. So realistically you'd expect the board to sign the most important player first - a left footed center back with pace, a left back, an attacking midfielder and a right winger.
4 players.
And we've only got one so far.
Woodward and Judge, as well as the entire fucking board, have been an absolute disgrace.
United have only signed ONE player so far with the transfer window closing tomorrow, and we're about to sign Cavani on a free, who's nearly 34 years old on a two year contract for £220,000 per week and paying hid agent €15m for the privilege 😲
You really couldn't make this shit up 😲
Ollie is NOT to blame for this. The biard are.
You've also got to have ghe ref taking a fair bit of responsibility for this too. It was either two red cards or two yellow cards. A single red card was the WRONG decision and completely changed what was an even open game in Spurs' favour.
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Oh well, the red scouse gits result has cheered me up a bit 😲😂😂😂
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Deluded Harv, you said many times during last season that if you had Fernandes at the start - you'd probably be challenging for the title ;D ;D then, at the back end of last season that if you sign Sancho you'd expect a title push.. now you need 6 players all of a sudden?? ;D ;D
Ole, now clear favourite on every bookmakers site to be the first manager to be sacked... ;D ;D
Also, a single red card was not the wrong decision, Lamela was tussling.. probably a bit forceful and could argue a yellow card.. but Martial raised his hands and slapped - instant red card - ref got it right.
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The difference is that other sides have improved their squads more than we have. We've only signed van de Beek so far, Telles will be a good signing but signing Cavani and Dembele will be a mistake.
Cavani is nearly 34 years old and hasn't played a full season for two years and Dembele has hamstrings made of glass.
We'll still end up with one of the best defensive records in the Premier League this season, despite the bad start, but the signings we're thinking of making won't increase our goal tally that much.
Signing Dembele in particular is going to be a disaster.
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I didn’t see it before as I didn’t take that much attention to the league above sitting in the Championship the last 16 years. But I gotta agree that this is all the boards doing at Man Utd.
No investment isn’t gonna to lead to any improvement for any manager. Also Ole isn’t the right man for a club like Man Utd anyway in my opinion, I don’t believe a player would want to come to Man Utd to play for him to lift there game or anything, but a player would go there for the money obviously. However, Ole hasn’t even got the support of the board, otherwise they would have made more than one signing this summer.
I can’t see Man Utd having one of the best defences in the prem this season Harv, you were very exposed at the back yesterday before the red card even came out, It wouldn’t shock me if Man Utd didn’t qualify for Europe in any form this season.
Could be a weird season since no one got a proper pre-season this year, and of course the loss of revenue to clubs like Man Utd could really change football.
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So far for United are transfer dealings are looking like this:
INS
van de Beek
Cavani
Telles
Traore
OUTS
Sanchez
Dalot (loan)
Pereira (loan)
Chongy (loan)
Smalling
Shame that we couldn't get rid of Pereira and Dalot permanently.
Getting rid of Sanchez was great, freed up £400,000 per week of wages but the board have managed to completely fuck up that benefit by giving Cavani half of those wages.
I'm glad to hear that the Dembulance loan deal is off, that was NEVER going to be a good idea.
I can see things really kicking off with some of the fans over the way they've completely screwed Ollie over this Summer.
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Probably a good job that these games are being played behind closed doors now that I'm thinking about it.
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Smalling isn't done yet. Some sort of problem with the paperwork apparently.
Ed Woodward is a fucking CLOWN 🤡
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He's gone now.
I can't believe that they've given Cavani the number 7 shirt.
I'm fucking FUMING about this transfer window.
I can see Woodward needing police protection after all this.
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Loads of changes for United against the Geordies:
De Gea
Wan-Bissaka Lindelof Maguire Shaw
Fred McTominay
Mata Fernandes James
Rashford
Rashford up front and no Greenwood at all so he must be injured.
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And we're 1-0 down after 2 minutes 😂😂😂
A Luke Shaw own goal. Unbelievable. 😭
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Bollocks. Brunooooooo got an equaliser ruled out cos it was offside. It was a great goal too 🤬😭🤬
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There was nowt wrong with THAT one. Maguire finally scores from a corner with his slab head.
Apart from that early howler United have been the better side in these opening 25 minutes.
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De Gea with an injury. Looks like he nearly dislocated his shoulder. Looked bloody painful but he stays on.
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Good job he stayed on, he just made an AMAZEBALLS save early in the second half😲😁
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United get a VERY soft penalty 😲
And Fernandes' penalty was saved! Justice done there I think.
Still 1-1.
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Pogba on for Fred, who's passing this evening has been atrocious 😲
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Their keeper has been carrying a groin injury for a good few minutes now and we're not putting him under any sort of pressure. So frustrating 😲🤬😡🤬😲
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Wow. What fantastic goal. Has to be a candidate for goal of the season by Fernandes and Rashford with the assist.
1-2 to United and 3 minutes plus injury time to go. 😲
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And Wan-Bissaka gets number 3 and another assist from Rashford. 😎😁😎
That has to be a United win now.
1-3 😎😁😎
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And Rashford makes it 1-4.
A great performance from United after going a goal down in the second minute of the game.
28 attempts on goal, 14 on target for United, Newcastle managed 7 attempts on goal and 4 on target. Their keeper, Farlow, was the MOTM by a mile, could have been 6 or 7.
No idea why Brucie didn't take him off when he was injured though. Not that I'm complaining 😂😝😂
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So that's a goal and two assists from both Fernandes and Rashford. And Fernandes messed up a penalty too.
Both Maguire and Lindelof looked solid at the back again, and we only conceded a goal due to a freakish deflection.
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Looks like power hungry Liverpool and Manchester United are pushing for a European Premiership still.
The idea sounds terrible though. Only 5 countries involved across Europe, they’re are some great teams in the Nertherlands, Belgium and Portugal to name a few who wouldn’t be involved. Not that I’d watch any of it, the only European matches I have watched over the last 10 years is Champions League finals and that’s only coz it’s free.
The current Champions League tournament works fine, nothing needs replacing with it. Just a bunch of billionaires who are bored with there football clubs it looks like.
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Yup, I agree. It ain't broke and don't need fixing.
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Three changes for United from the side that beat PSG and Ollie has picked the side that beat Newcastle last week:
De Gea
Wan-Bissaka Lindelof Maguire Shaw
Fred McTominay
Mata Fernandes James
Rashford
And our bench is ridiculous:
Henderson, Pogba, Cavani, Greenwood, Matic, van de Beek, Tuanzebe 😲😂
No Telles though and only one defender. 🤔
Good luck to jman and drags later on 😁
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Quite a tight game so far, chances very few and far between in these first 30 minutes.
Both Fred and McTominay working well together in the middle.
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0-0 at halftime and United have had more and the best chances with a couple of decent saves preventing Chelsea from going behind.
Still quite a tight game though.
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Not sure how Chelsea and United didn't get a penalty each in that first half though. The VAR ref must have been asleep 😲😂
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Cavani and Pogba on for Mata and James.
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Greenwood on for McTominay.
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Bollocks, 0-0 draw. 😭
We had so many chances but nowhere near enough on target. If it wasn't for Mendy making three really good saves we would have won that.
Fat Frank may feel aggrieved about not getting that penalty but that was evened out by us not getting one either a few minutes later.
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Not really evened out, because VAR looked at that one and adjudged it wasn't a penalty... they didn't even bother looking at the headlock on Dave... and it would have changed what was an utterly boring game.
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It's your goalie's fault that it was a boring game. Not sure who got the MOTM award but he certainly deserved it.
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Okay, own up. Who broke the forums yesterday? 😂😂😂
Team news for United vs arse:
De Gea
Wan-Bissaka Lindelof Maguire Shaw
McTominay
Fred Pogba
Fernandes
Greenwood Rashford
Bench: Henderson, Cavani, Mata, Matic, Williams, van de Beek, Tuanzebe
So it's looking like we're playing 4-4-2 with a diamond again but Ollie has got Williams on the bench so that we can switch to 3 at the back. 😁
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0-0 at halftime and United have been pretty poor so far. We're pretty much parking the bloody bus and are only pressing in our own half.
Leno has made a half decent save from our only attempt at goal and arse have had three attempts at goal and none of those have been on target.
I've nearly dropped off to sleep a couple of times. Hope they got the hairdryer treatment during the break. 🤬😡🤬
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Looks like they did 😂😂😂
United have stepped up their game now. 2 attempts on goal in the first few minutes, both off target though.
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Rashford is getting a real BATTERING this match for some reason 😲😂😂😂
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Matic on for Fred.
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Bollocks. United have gone 0-1 down from a penalty. Missed the decision and goal cos my stream went tits up but it was a deserved penalty apparently.
arse deserve the lead though, they've been the better side I think. 😭
So frustrating.
arse should be down to 10 men now too. That was EASILY a second booking for Gabriel. 😲
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Van de Beek and Cavani on for Fernandes and Greenwood.
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Bollocks. That's full-time and a 0-1 win for arse. And they deserved it too. 😭
So that result leaves us 6 points away from 1st place if we win our game in hand 🤬😡🤬
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More boring shite and united stuck in 15th place ;D
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Still got a game in hand though!
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Team news for United against the blue scouse gits:
De Gea
Wan-Bissaka Lindelof Maguire Shaw
Fred McTominay
Mata Fernandes Rashford
Martial
Bench: Henderson, Pogba, Cavani, James, Matic, van de Beek, Tuanzebe.
Not sure what's happened to Greenwood 😲
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Bollocks. 1-0 down already. 🤬😡🤬
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I think Ollie will get the push if we lose this. It's a real shame because if he had adequate support from the board he could start to build something VERY impressive here and have us playing top quality football.
Having a net spend of £35m this Summer, and £60m for the two Summers before that is embarrassing for a club the size and stature of United.
Great equaliser from Brunooooooo 😎
Assist from Shaw 😁
Nice goal too.
1-1.
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Rashford scores a LOVELY goal, assist from Brunooooooo 😁
Not sure if he actually scored that, might have been another for Fernandes 😂
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A good first half for United after a shakey start. Hope Rashford and Fernandes don't have a punch up in the dressing room over who scored that goal lol 😂
United 1-2 up at halftime and we were popping the ball around VERY nicely in the final third at times.
8 attempts on goal, 3 on target and 2 goals. The blue scouse gits have had 3 attempts on goal, 1 on target and 1 goal.
Ollie will be the happier manager during the break but it's looking like there are going to be more goals before the final whistle blows.
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United denied a penalty 😭
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Everton have REALLY been piling on the pressure these last 10 minutes or so and Shaw has gone off injured to be replaced by Tuanzebe.
Cavani and Pogba on for Martial and Mata.
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Cavani gets number 3 😎
Assist from Brunooooooo 😁
Going to be interesting to see if Cavani is going to be another Larsson or another Falcao.
And that's the final score.
Happy with the performance and the result. 😎😁😎
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Team news for United vs the Baggies:
De Gea
Wan-Bissaka Lindelof Maguire Telles
Fred Matic
Mata Fernandes Rashford
Martial
Telles with his first Premier League start for United.
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0-0 at halftime and United have been pretty poor. We've had the better chances, could have had a penalty and Johnstone made a couple of great saves but we've only had 5 attempts on goal, 3 on target. The Baggies have had 4 with 1 on target.
We should have had twice that against a side like this 🤬😡🤬
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United lucky not to get a penalty against us. VAR had the ref changing his mind because Fernandes had a tiny bit of the ball.
Looked like a penalty to me but that makes up for the one we didn't get in the first half. Justice done imo.
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And Johnstone saves a penalty but it has to be retaken cos he was off his line.
2nd try for Brunooooooo
In the back of the net!!! 😎😁😎
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1-0 to United.
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Cavani on for Mata.
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Van de Beek on for Rashford.
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McTominay on for Fred.
4 minutes of Injury Time.
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And that's fulltime with a 1-0 win to United. The Baggies COULD feel aggrieved by the VAR decision wiping out their penalty but Martial could also feel the same about not getting his one for the shirt pull.
A much better second half from United, 17 shots on goal and only 7 on target but Johnstone put in a MOTM performance imo, with three great saves otherwise we would have scored another goal or two.
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Team news for United against the Saints:
De Gea
Wan-Bissaka Lindelof Maguire Telles
Fred Matic van de Beek
Brunooooooo
Greenwood Rashford
The Sky Sports app has them lining up as 4-4-2 with Bruno as the number 10 behind the two strikers, but with that line up we can play 4-5-1 with two defensive midfielders that Ollie seems to favour the most too.
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Good job there's no fans in the ground otherwise that minute's silence would have been filled with boos and jeers for THAT cunt. 😲😂
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Bollocks. 1-0 down against the run of play. 🤬😡🤬😭
Terrible defending.
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2 bloody 0 now, fucking Ward-Prowse!!!! 😲😭😲
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Brunooooooo 😎😁😎
Assist from Cavani.
Half an hour to go.
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Brunooooooo returns the favour, another assist and a goal for Cavani.
2-2.
😎😁😎
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Cavani gets number 3, assist from Rashford, a lovely ball in.
2-3 now. 2 minutes of Injury Time left.
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Early days yet but he's showing early signs of being another Larsson rather than being another Falcao.
De Gea and Telles off injured, looks like a groin strain for Telles, hopefully he came off before doing too much damage.
And that's now 8 consecutive away wins for Ollie and United now in 7th place.
Feenandes with another MOTM performance, just beating Cavani by a whisker.
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0-0 for Chelsea and the Spuds. Missed the match but doesn't look like I missed much. Maureen parking the bloomin bus again, they had ONE attempt on goal in the second half, and that was in the very last minute. :o
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Team news for United, a couple of players rested:
Henderson
Wan-Bissaka Lindelof Maguire Telles
McTominay van de Beek/Pogba
Greenwood Pogba/van de Beek Martial
Cavani
Not too sure which way around he's going to play Pogba and van de Beek, or Ollie could go for a 4-4-2 diamond too, with those two either side of the diamond.
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Bollocks. Fucking zonal marking. 1-0 down.
We've been fucking terrible so far, our passing has been all over the bloody place. 2 attempts on goal so far and only 1 on target.
They've been all over us, we should be a couple of goals down at least so far. We've been beyond shite. 😭💩😭
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1-0 down at halftime and it should be more. Ollie had better get that hairdryer going during the halftime break. 🤬😡🤬
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Fernandes and Rashford came on for van de Beek and Cavani at halftime.
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Mata on for Martial who comes off injured. That's all of our subs used now.
Half an hour to go and we deserve fuck all from this game so far.
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Wow. A real screamer from Pogba. Rashford with the assist. Might be disallowed cos the ball might have gone out...
...and the goal stands 😁
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Greenwood with number 2.
Telles with the assist. A REALLY nice finish. 😁
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Rashford with number 3, a beautiful assist from Mata.
1-3 to United.
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Team news for United in the Manchester Derby:
De Gea
Wan-Bissaka Lindelof Maguire Shaw
McTominay
Fred Pogba
Fernandes
Greenwood Rashford
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Bollocks. Looks like Fred is fucked 😕
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He's got some treatment and comes back on. Hopefully he'll be okay to continue.
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0-0 at halftime, United have been the better side but not taken our chances. City have been pretty wasteful too. United 7 attempts on goal and 1 on target, City 4 attempts on goal and 1 on target.
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United awarded a penalty by the ref but Rashford was offside so VAR overturns it.
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Aaaaaaargh!!!
Fucking Internet has gone tits up!!! 😲😭
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0-0 final score and has to be the most boring local Derby ever played. 😲😂
Terrible match to watch.
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So bloody annoying that we dropped 2 points on Saturday!!! Absolutely EVERYONE has dropped points this weekend, if we had won we'd be sitting in 6th place just 3 points away from top spot with a game in hand!!! Aaaaaaaaaargh!!! >:(
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Team news for United against the Blades:
Henderson
Wan-Bissaka Lindelof Maguire Telles
Matic Pogba
Greenwood Fernandes Rashford
Martial
De Gea getting a rest tonight and no Cavani, who's going to get a ban soon for his dodgy Instagram post. Martial up front.
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Wtf. HUGE cock up from Henderson. Wtf was he thinking lmfao 😲😂
As the Great Dane says being a world class keeper isn't about not making mistakes, it's about how you recover from them. 😲
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Forgot to say 1 - 0 to Sheffield United 😭
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Rashford with an equaliser, an absolutely SUBLIME first touch and a great finish from a long ball from Lindelof for the assist.
1-1 😁
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A nice piece of skill from Martial for goal number two for United. Assist from Pogba.
1-2.😎😁😎
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A real fantastic goal, ref played the advantage after a foul and United went through them like a knife through butter. Great passing and movement which ended with Martial laying the ball off for Rashford to score his second.
1-3 😁
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Mata on for Greenwood 😁
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van de Beek on for Brunooooooo 😁
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Bollocks. 2-3 now, a bit of a lucky goal. Going to be more of a nervous 5-10 minutes than I was hoping. 😲
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McTominay on for Martial.
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Henderson made a good save, makes up for that cock up he made early on for their first goal.
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And that's it, 2-3 final score. Good performance from United, unlucky to concede that second goal though. And Henderson made up for his mistake that gave them their first goal by pulling off a good save to deny them their third goal and an equaliser.
United deserved the win in the end I think.
If we win our game in hand then that puts us in second place, two points behind the red scouse gits.
Not too shabby given our bad start to the season. 😎😁😎
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2-0 to United after 3 minutes lol
McTominay scored them both! A nice couple of strikes too. 😲😁😎
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Brunooooooo!!!
3-0. 😎😁😎
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Lindelof, 4-0 😂😂😂
That has to be game over after 36 minutes 😲
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Bollocks, 4-1 now. ☹
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More great play from United, James with a nice finish and McTominay with the assist.
5-1.
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Penalty for United...
...and Brunooooooo puts it away.
6-1 to United and +5 on our Goal Difference so far. Could be more goals from either side though in the last 20 minutes.
Cavani on for Rashford and van de Beek on for Fernandes.
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And Leeds get one back, a cracking strike too. 😲
6-2. 😲
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6-2 final score leaves United in third place with a new and improved goal difference of +7 now.
A great performance but it's a shame that the MOTM, Scott McTominay, came off injured at the very end. Probably a groin problem. ☹
We're coming for ya, yer red scouse gits, we're coming for ya!!! 😲😁😎
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Rashford scores and yet another assist from Brunooooooo 😎😁😎
De Gea
Lindelof Bailly Maguire Shaw
Fred McTominay
James Fernandes Rashford
Martial
United 0-1 up after 23 minutes.
😁
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Bollocks, a great hit from Barnes for an equaliser 😲☹
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Pogba on for James.
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Tuanzebe on for the injured Lindelof.
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Brunooooooo 😎😎😎😎
Great finish and a lovely assist from Cavani who came on for Martial a minute or two ago.
1-2 😎😁😎
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Fucking Vardy, 2-2. Bollocks. 🤬😡🤬
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2-2 final score and probably a fair result I think. ☹
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Looks like just about everyone has dropped points this weekend 😲
I'm hoping that we're going to sign a defender with pace next month, and that Ollie is going to ditch bloody zonal marking. I've NEVER liked it. We're not going to win or even challenge for the Premier League otherwise. ☹
I don't know what the fuck has happened to our defence this season. We usually end up with one of the best defences in the Premier League but I can't see us doing that this season if we carry on like this. 😲
Ollie HAS got us scoring goals again though, but this is mostly down to signing Fernandes in January. He's one of the best attacking players in the world right now I think.
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Team news for United:
De Gea
Wan-Bissaka Bailly Maguire Telles
Matic Pogba
Greenwood Fernandes Rashford
Cavani
Another strong attacking line up for Unitedand a deserved start for Cavani with Martial dropping down to the bench. 😎😁😎
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Wolves have been the better side in the first 20 minutes, Traore is causing us a few problems. We've only had 2 attempts on goal and none on target. Wolves have had 5 with 3 on target.
Most of that is down to VERY good defending from Wolves so far. ☹
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We've had a great save from each keeper, otherwise it would be 1-1. 😲
Wolves have had the better chances so far but you'd be a fool to take your eyes off this match for a second.
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Shaw on for Telles during the break.
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Rashfoooooooorrrddd!!!
1-0 to United and a deflection gives United the lead after 3 out of 5 minutes of Injury Time. We deserve absolutely NOTHING from this game, we've been fucking TERRIBLE 😲
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And that's full-time 😁😂
You could argue that Wolves deserved a point but they pretty much parked the bus for the last 20 minutes or so and got punished for it.
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The red scouse gits only picked up a point against the Geordies 😲
That's them 3 points ahead and us with a game in hand. 😎😁😎
Way too early to talk about a title challenge yet. If we're there or thereabouts in March or April then it's game on but right now it's just too early to even start to think about it.
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Team news for United against Villa:
De Gea
Wan-Bissaka Bailly Maguire Shaw
Fred
McTominay Pogba
Fernandes
Rashford Martial
Looks like a 4-4-2 diamond for United as Cavani misses his first match after he got a 3 match ban the other day.
Liverpool are playing on Monday so a win will get us on equal points with them but they'll be in first place down to goal difference. 😎😁😎
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Looks like Wan-Bissaka has been working on the attacking part of his game. A great run and cross from him and a Martial header puts United 1-0 up at the 40 minute mark.
1-0 to United at halftime 😁
United have had almost three times more attempts on goal but have wasted most of those chances with only 3 of the 11 chances being on target.
Still, can't complain too much, United have been the better side so far 😎😁😎
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Bollocks, a deserved equaliser for Villa. 😲☹😭
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Pogba wins a penalty for United and...
Brunooooooo!!!!!!
Puts it away. 2-1 to United. 😁
That's a 93.75% success rate from the spot. Incredible record for a penalty taker. 😲
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Matic on for McTominay.
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Bloody hell, that was a great match to watch and I nearly pooed my pants in the last minute lol 😂😂😂
Final score 2-1 to United and that's us 10 games unbeaten now and level on points with the red scouse gits with goal difference keeping us in second place. 😎😁😎
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Oh shit!!! 😲
The Saints have just beat the red scouse gits 1-0!!!!!! 😲
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So now we have Maureen AND Klopp moaning about penalties that we get lol 😂😂😂
Ollie doesn't need to play mind games, opposition managers are doing all the work for him 😲😂😂😂
Pep will be moaning next, hopefully after we knock them out of the League Cup tomorrow 😝🤞😝
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Just the team line up I was hoping for for United vs Burnley at Turf Moor:
De Gea
Wan-Bissaka Bailly Maguire Shaw
Matic Pogba
Rashford Fernandes Martial
Cavani
It's mostly Burnley so far and United are struggling to break the Clarets down early on.
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Bit of controversy imo. Shaw made contact with the ball with a challenge then at the other end Cavani was fouled and denied a goalscoring opportunity.
Ref gave Shaw a yellow card for that. Wrong decision imo 😡🤬😡
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Shaw COULD have broken that guy's leg, admittedly, but it was a 50/50 challenge and Shaw made contact with the ball.
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Maguire FINALLY scores a goal with his head but it's disallowed. This is a fucking conspiracy lol 😲😂😂😂
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Okay, I've seen that Shaw challenge again, didn't realise he went over the top, could have seen red for that!!! 😲
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Pogba put us 0-1 up with a screamer and Greenwood is on for Rashford.
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Looks like Martial has done his hamstring. Tuanzebe comes on for him.
Looks like Matic now has a groin injury!
And that's full-time with United 3 points clear at the top of the table and our game in hand out of the way.
If we beat the red scouse gits on Sunday we'll be 6 points clear!!! 😲
Even if we get beat we can afford to lose thanks to that 3 point cushion but beating them will be a MASSIVE statement of intent. 😎😁😎
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A valuable win for Fat Frank today, but they're still 7 points away from United in top spot and we've got a game in hand which we're playing tomorrow against the red scouse gits.
Told you that he'd bought too many players at once. They'll probably get a boost of a good few points towards the end of the season I think, and they'll certainly be a threat to our title defence next season 😝😂 but I can't see them challenging for the title this season.
And Klopp is certainly feeling the pressure what with him moaning about our penalties every five minutes. 😂😂😂
It'll be hilarious if Fernandes scores the winner with a penalty at the last minute tomorrow, if that happens United fans will start to call Anfield Fernanfield 😲😂😂😂
It's a big game and at their house so I'll be happy with a point tbh.
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Team news for United and I'm NOT happy!!!
De Gea
Wan-Bissaka Lindelof Maguire Shaw
Fred McTominay
Rashford Fernandes Pogba
Martial
Cavani and Bailly on the bench ffs 😲
That leaves us with two center backs with NO pace and without the movement of Cavani.
🤬😡🤬😭
I think we're going to lose this!!! Ollie has got his team selection wrong!!! 😲☹😭☹
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Fuck me, this is a boring game!!! 😲
Scousers have had 9 attempts on goal, 1 on target, we've had ONE off target attempt on goal. Our lack of chances is mainly down to the timing of our runs, flag goes up for offside before we can get a shot away.
0-0 at halftime.
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And that's full-time, 0-0.
The second half was A LOT better and their keeper ended up winning them a point with a few good saves, De Gea wasn't really THAT bothered with many chances because we (surprisingly given that Bailly wasn't paired with Maguire!) defended REALLY well. Another couple of chances on goal and we would have won that I think. 8 attempts on goal and 4 on target and the scouse gits had 13 and only 3 on target.
Happy with the point and still top of the Premier League but if the Berties win their 2 games in hand they'll be a point ahead of us. 😁
The red scouse gits needed to win that game so I'm happy.
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Fat Frank is 2-0 down at the Foxes at halftime. 😲
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Looks like I was right about Fat Frank and his transfers. That's what happens when you put a man in charge of a big club that's got a big transfer budget with bugger all managerial experience. They should have given the job to me, I've had THOUSANDS of years of managerial experience thanks to me working on Champ Man for a few years lololol :o ;D
The big question is, who's going to win the sack race? Fat Frank or Arteta..? My money would be on Arteta but Lumpard HAS spent A LOT of money! :o
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Team news for United:
De Gea
Wan-Bissaka Bailly Maguire Shaw
Fred Pogba
Greenwood Fernandes Martial
Cavani
Rashford rested on the bench.
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Bollocks. 1-0 down already 🤬😡🤬
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1-1 Cavani 😎
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1-1 at halftime, after a shakey start United ended the half well. Goal came from some great work from Brunooooooo with a decent cross that the keeper spilled and Cavani put it away.
Yet again we haven't been clinical enough, 8 attempts on goal and only 2 on target and Fulham have had 4 with 3 on target.
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Pogbaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!
Wow.
Incredible strike. Could be Goal of the month.
1-2 to United 😎😎😎😁
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And that's full-time and United at the top again. City still have a game in hand and they're only 2 points behind us.
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Fuck me ragged with a wire brush!!! 😲😂
The red scouse gits got beat by Burnley!!! And it was from a penalty too, oh the irony lololol 😂😂😂
That's us now 6 points clear of the champions. 😲
And they've got Spurs and the Hammers coming up too.
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Well that's Fat Frank sacked. Told you that he'd bought too many players at once. They reckon Tuchel is going to get the job in the next 48 hours.
There's no way I'd take the job at Chelsea. Sure, you get plenty of money to spend, but no job security.
I think Lumpard should have been given more time myself.
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Six changes for United against the Blades:
De Gea
Wan-Bissaka Tuanzebe Maguire Telles
Matic Pogba
Greenwood Fernandes Rashford
Martial
No Bailly in the side or on the bench which is a concern.
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Just a 'bang and a bruise' for Bailly, so nothing serious. Bailly and Maguire is our best central defensive pairing I think.
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Bollocks. 0-1 down at halftime when they scored after a push on De Gea took him a split second away from the ball and they scored from it.
Then later on there was a slight collision between Maguire and their keeper and Martial scored from it. Either both goals should have stood or neither of them 🤬😡🤬
We've been pretty poor in the first half, particularly with our passing in the final third. Think that hairdryer might be making some noise during the break!!!
We've had 7 attempts on goal and only 1 of those on target. Not good enough!!! 😲🤬😡🤬😲
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Shite. We ended up losing 1-2 in what must be the most embarrassing shock of the season!!! They were so depleted that they couldn't even field a full bench ffs.
They certainly deserved the win, Jagielka in particular was incredible but Sheffield United were helped by us being VERY poor in the final third. We kept on giving the ball away.
We can only afford to lose ONE more game before the end of the season I think otherwise we've no chance of winning the Premier League this season. 😲🤬😡🤬
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Team news for United:
De Gea
Wan-Bissaka Lindelof Maguire Shaw
Fred
McTominay Pogba
Fernandes
Cavani Rashford
Could be 4-4-2 with a diamond or Fred and McTominay as two defensive midfielders and Pogba on the left in a 4-2-3-1 formation.
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Well that was disappointing. Ended up with a 0-0 draw. I don't know wtf has happened to our finishing these last few games. 😲 We only had 3 attempts out of 14 in total on target.
Not good enough.
Any more results like these two and we can wave goodbye to a challenge for the title. 🤬😡🤬
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One change for the match against the Saints with Pogba resting on the bench and Greenwood starting:
De Gea
Wan-Bissaka Lindelof Maguire Shaw
McTominay Fred
Greenwood Fernandes Rashford
Cavani
The Saints turned to Sinners in the first 80 seconds with an horrific challenge on McTominay and they were down to 10 men.
Due to a one man advantage we're 4-0 up at halftime with goals from Wan-Bissaka, Rashford and Cavani and an OG by Bednarek.
If we don't get at least another two goals in the second half I'm going to be VERY disappointed. We've got a real good chance of sorting out our goal difference here. 😎😁😎
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Well I got my two goals and more in the second half. We ended up winning 9-0.
Before the match our Goal Difference was +10, it's now a much more respectable +19 😎😁😎
The second sending off for them was VERY harsh I think though.
Goals came from Wan-Bissaka, Rashford, Rednarek (OG), Cavani, Martial (2), McTominay, Brunooooooo and James.
United. Are. Back. 😎😁😎
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Another defeat for the red scouse gits last night 😂😂😂😎
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One change for United, Fred replaced by Pogba in the starting lineup.
United 2-0 up at halftime, first goal was a Cavani header from a Rashford cross and the second was a great goal from Brunooooooo and an assist from Wan-Bissaka.
We're just looking so good at the moment, would have been 3-0 up if Pogba hadn't gone off injured as Fred missed a chance that Pogba would have buried.
I still don't think we're good enough to win the title but this has been a strange season so who knows..? We're still missing four players to turn us into a side capable of dominating English football for a while. A center back, defensive midfielder, right winger and a striker are needed I think, then we can bring through more of our Yoof players during the next few years.
So glad to see Manchester United playing like Manchester United again. If Ollie had decent support from the owners and board instead of penny pinching we'd probably be 10 points ahead of everyone else by now if we had Grealish, Upamecano, Sancho and Haaland in the side.
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Well we played like Manchester United in the FIRST half lol 😲😂😂😂
Looks like the Toffees got the hairdryer treatment during the break, pulled 2 back to make it 2-2, then McTominay got what LOOKED like the winner to bring us 3-2 up only for Tuanzebe to give away a stupid free kick in the last minute and we let the equaliser in. 3-3 final score.
Unbelievable.
That's 2 points thrown away!!!
I'm sooooooo pissed off right now!!! 😡🤬😡
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Even more pissed off now. Red scouse gits vs the Berties was looking like it was going to end in a 1-1 draw but Alisson decides to give them a few goals.
Looks like another three points for them and with our result yesterday they've increased their lead at the top. 🤬😡🤬
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Baggies 1 - 1 United at halftime.
United went 1-0 down after the first minute, looked like a foul on Lindelof to me, should have been disallowed 🤬😡🤬
United equalised before halftime with a great finish from Brunooooooo and an assist from Shaw.
Here's our side playing:
De Gea
Wan-Bissaka Lindelof Maguire Shaw
McTominay Fred
Rashford Fernandes Martial
Cavani
Hopefully more goals from United in the second half! 😲
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Bollocks. Another 2 points dropped. Ended 1-1. 🤬😡🤬
Looks like our title run is coming to an end, currently fighting for second place at the moment I think unless City have a drop in form.
I squad has been punching above it's weight though. I think we need another 4 players before we can seriously challenge for the title. A striker, a right winger, a central defensive midfielder and a central defender with pace. ☹
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Fucking he'll, we've been godawful in this first half against Newcastle 😲
Our passing has been TERRIBLE.
Rashford managed to put us 1-0 up but we conceded an equaliser from a corner. Martial has been pretty impotent, I think this is his last season at United, he's not good enough.
1-1 at halftime, if we don't pull our fingers out then we're going to get beat this evening. 🤬😡🤬
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A better second half for United...just. We ended up winning 3-1, the other two goals from James and Brunooooooo, and I'm sure that the records will show yet another assist from Brunooooooo too, even though it was the slightest touch before James put it away. Another penalty for Brunooooooo too. 😎😁😎
I think that's 22 goals from him so far this season and maybe(?) 13 assists. So he's been directly involved in 35 goals if I'm remembering my stats correctly.
I'm beginning to feel a bit guilty only paying Sporting £50m or so for him. Think we should give them another £50m to make it fair 😲😂😂😂
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0-0 at halftime against Chelsea and I'm almost dropping off to sleep watching it. Both sides cancelling each other out.
Fuck knows how we didn't get a penalty in that first half though 😲🤬😡🤬
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Ended up 0-0 and the game didn't get any better to watch. A point at Stamford Bridge was a decent result I guess ☹
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0-0 at halftime during a DIRE 45 minutes of football. They'd better be getting that Norwegian hair dryer during the fucking break!!! 🤬😡🤬
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Christ on a fucking bike that was PAINFUL to watch. We were terrible, ended 0-0. A win would have given us a three point lead on Leicester, ANOTHER wasted opportunity. That's City 14 points clear at the top now. 🤬😡🤬
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United 0-1 up against the Berties at halftime through a Fernandes penalty. Good performance from United so far, City have had LOADS of chances but very few of them on target. 13 shots and only 4 on target and United have had 4 attempts on goal and 3 on target so we've been MUCH more clinical.
Ollie will be the happier bunny during the break. 😎😁😎
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Ended up 0-2 and a great second half from United. We could and should have scored more. Shaw got the second goal.
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Just beat top of the league with 10 men! No biggie 8)
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Just beat top of the league with 10 men! No biggie 8)
😂😂😂😂
And the Comeback Kings have just humiliated Maureen, should have been 1 - 4 too. His post-match press conference was hilarious 😂😂😂😂😂
And now there's a small voice in my head saying that the Premiership title is still on!!! 😝😂
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Played the Champions Elect last week and the current champions tonight, and neither one could beat a newly promoted team...big six my ass! I hope the lot of them get chucked out the league! ;D
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Won't get chucked out of the Premier League (even though they deserve it!!!), might be a points deduction at the start of next season, maybe?
The problem that the FA and Premier League have, and UEFA too, is that any punishment on the club is going to be a punishment on the fans.
Wouldn't surprise me if we see a year ban from playing any European matches for a year for the Greedy 6 though.
What they really need to do is fine the individuals that own each club but I don't think they can do that.
The European Super League knob-ends will also throw some sort fines our way too for pulling out of the thing.
The owners of one of the Greedy 6 is rumoured to be ready to sell, my money would be on arse I think but I'd sell my soul to Santa for it to be those Glazer cunts. 😲
I want to see all 6 getting a 20 point points deduction at the start of next season and at least a 1 year ban from Europe
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It’ll probably be a fine, if that.
I agree though, a harsher punishment is needed, I’d agree with Gary Neville about relegating the clubs. I’d take a ban on Europe though, as things stand Leeds would get Champions League right now. :o
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Good to see protests continuing by fans of all 6 clubs. There was a couple of thousand United fans at Old Trafford this afternoon.
I'd normally be going apeshit at protests but the UK attained herd immunity on 12th April according to the boffins at Imperial College London so protests are okay with me now.
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That’s what they call a classic 0-0.
Most boring match I’ve ever watched, apparently this is Man Utd’s 8th 0-0 of the season, i can only imagine how hard it must be for there fans to watch games like that another 7 times 😴. Would off taken a draw before the game though...just played Man City, Liverpool, and Man Utd consecutively and not lost any...these big 6 need a reality check 😂
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A well deserved point for Leeds. Nearly fell asleep lol ;D
Despite those 0-0 draws we're still the second best scorers in the Premier League. Our big problem when teams park the bus is a lack of creativity, especially on the right. We've needed a right winger for donkey's years. There's no doubt in my mind that Sancho would turned most of those 0-0 draws into wins.
It's the Glazers being useless AGAIN. :o
If we'd bought Sancho in the Summer we'd be right up City's bum. :(
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3-1 win against Spurs, means none of the greedy 6 beat us at home this season!
Will take that in our first season back 😁
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3-1 win against Spurs, means none of the greedy 6 beat us at home this season!
Will take that in our first season back 😁
Have been quite surprised by Leeds this season! 😲
The Comeback Kings did it again this afternoon. Gave Villa a head start then went on to win 1-3 😲
Still mathematically possible to win the Premier League too lol 😂😂😂
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Yeah, I would expect a higher finish next season too...we’ve only had a full strength defence since March, so there is defiantly potential there to do even better next season with new signings too, as long as Bielsa renews his contract, which I imagine he will, fingers crossed.
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Meh. 10 changes and our Reserves got beat by Leicester and City are now winners of the Premier League. Guess that's what happens when you're forced to play a ridiculous amount of times in such a short time.
Still wouldn't swap that postponed game for the world, going to be interesting to see what happens on Thursday with protests. Old Trafford is a fortress now lol, bloomin great big metal sheets. Looks like a Combine barrier from Half Life 2 lmfao 😲😂😂😂
Plenty of good points, Elanga made some VERY good runs which may have resulted in a goal or two if he was surrounded by first team players and Tuanzebe was incredible. Amad got his first start but both players out wide suffered from United playing WAY too deep for most of the match, but despite that Amad got the assist for Greenwood's goal.
United ended up losing 1-2 but we've had a great season so far so I don't have too many complaints.
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9th place finish, not bad for our first season back.
Would like to think we’ll be fighting for European football next season, after Marcelo signs his new contract.
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2nd place for us. Not bad considering how little support Ollie has had from the board since he took the job.
A side the size and stature of United having a net spend of £60m these last few years is nothing short of SHOCKING and a fucking disgrace. 🤬😡🤬
Maybe these fan protests will give the Glazers a kick up the arse and loosen their purse strings.
We're at least three players short of winning the Premier League - a defensive midfielder, a center back and a right winger...the last of which we've needed for 6 bloomin years 😲
We won't need a striker because Cavani has been convinced to stay for another season, plus I wouldn't be too comfortable about signing as many as four players at once. Fat Frank found out that signing too many players at once isn't usually a good idea.
Not a bad season for United though. 2nd place, just 12 points behind the Berties. We were in a title race until March! And a European trophy up for grabs on Wednesday.
We're showing progress under Ollie, the happiest I've been with a manager at United since Fergie retired. There's no doubt in my mind that Ollie is the man to get United back where we belong - winning the Premier League and Champions League 😎😁😎
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Easy start for Leeds next season :)
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United's first preseason friendly against Derby tomorrow afternoon, Sancho deal is done and Varane deal is expected to be done in the next few days with a bit of luck. 😎😁😎
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United 5 - 1 Leeds
A great performance across the board, a hat trick for Brunooooooo and a goal each for Greenwood and Fred. 😎😁😎
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Our defence was dog shit, I can’t complain about the result, they got stuffed and deserved to get stuffed. Our defending was one of our strongest areas towards the end of last season and I really thought we made a step forward.
Pre-season it’s been terrible, I thought it would be sorted for the 1st day of the season but obviously not.
I’ve got tickets to Leeds vs Everton next week, if they defend like that, I’ll be making sure they hear my thoughts.
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It's down to the midfield more than your defence though more than anything. Pogba dropping deep more than playing as a traditional winger overloaded the midfield and created more chances.
Leeds should have man-marked Pogba after this became apparent I think.
All 6 goals were excellent in this game though, the Leeds goal being the best of the lot although not much consolation for you right now. 😎😁😎
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Yeah, we didn’t play Phillips though and everything goes through him, could off given Pogba a much tougher game. Koch in his place was at fault for 2 of the goals today.
Ayling’s goal was epic, but like you say, counts for nothing.
Didn’t expect much from today anyway, but can’t believe how poor we were going forward, last season we caused every team problems, but today was too easy for you, and you were basically playing last seasons defence.
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Forgot to update my experience at Elland Road last weekend.
Was epic! Felt exactly like going to a football match before the Pandemic! Atmosphere was insane, and Leeds didn’t lose like they usually do when I see them. Game could of gone either way, we had way more of the ball, but Everton had the better chances, I’d say the draw was fair.
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Well Sunday for us was a bloody disaster, we threw 2 points away. The sooner we can start with Sancho and Varane the better!!! 😲😭😲
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I realised something the other day. Varane and Ronnie between them have won the same amount of Champions Leagues as United and the Red Scouse Gits added together lol 😲😂😲
Ronnie broke another World Record the other day scoring the most goals in international football, 111 in 180 games. 😲
The Premier League have given special dispensation for Ronnie to wear number 7 despite Cavani already using the number last week.
With the sale of James to Leeds the number 21 shirt is free and that's Cavani's International number so Ronnie is now officially number 7 for United. No surprise that the Premier League gave us special dispensation for this, CR7 is MUCH more marketable for them than CR28.
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And Ronnie is starting against the Geordies this afternoon 😎😁😎
De Gea
Wan-Bissaka Varane Maguire Shaw
Matic Pogba
Greenwood Brunooooooo Sancho
Ronnie
Am expecting Newcastle to park the bus like crazy here lol 😲😂😂😂
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Was right about that bus lol 😲😂
United go in 1-0 up with a goal from - you guessed it - Ronnie. The goalie fumbled a shot from Greenwood and put it on a plate for Ronnie.
Sancho has had a good game so far too, he's looked VERY lively. 😎😁😎
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Bollocks. 1-1 now :(
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2-1. Another one from Ronnie after a nice driving run from Shaw who provided the assist. :D
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That's game over, final score 4-1 with the other two goals scored by Brunooooooo and Lingard.
Ronnie MOTM imo. 8)
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Pep pleading with fans to turn up on Saturday and the dialog between the head of the fan group and Pep was hilarious lol ;D ;D ;D
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Lingard and De Gea managed to ruin Atkinson's plans to steal points away from United this afternoon. 😲😂
We should have had at least one penalty (the other two were pretty soft to be fair) and Shaw's arm (that was moving away from the ball and in a natural position) was deemed by the shite ref to be in an unnatural position and gave a pen to the Hammers.
Thought that was two points lost in the last minute of the game but De Gea actually saved a penalty for once!!!
Three points to United and we're in second place on goal difference. Final score was 1-2 to United with the goals from Ronnie and Lingard. The Lingard goal should be a strong candidate for Goal Of The Month, it was a corker. 😲😎😲
That's 4 goals in 3 games for Ronnie I think now, not too shabby. 😉
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Both games that kicked off at 12:30 are 0-0 at halftime. United have had 15 chances but only 2 on target. ☹
The side is unchanged from the side that beat the Hammers last weekend.
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Brunooooooo ended up hoofing a penalty over the bar in the last minute after we went a goal down but we didn't deserve to get a point from this match.
Despite the scoreline we weren't too bad defensively but our attackers let us down again. Most of our chances were hit and hope from distance and Greenwood made a few wrong decisions.
Plenty of idiots on Social Media screaming, 'Ollie out!' but once Shaw and Maguire came off injured his ability to change tactics was severely hampered.
Oh well, loads of time left to win the Premier League so I'm not too worried, and Chelsea got beat by the Berties so I'm not entirely disappointed with the football this afternoon, although the red scouse gits will almost certainly batter Brentford this evening and go 3 points clear of us at the top of the table. ☹😭☹
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Ole sounding really desperate now, no penalties, offside goals, everything but himself.. thing is, had united not been so shite in front of goal, the missed penalty and offside goal wouldn't have mattered.
And then brunos social media post is just embarrassing, ole should apologise everytime he starts McFred. Uniteds best player definitely shouldn't apologize for missing one penalty ;D Get Ronnie on the next one though ;D
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Well another complete fucking disaster for United. Away from home we go 2-1 down and see Rashford equalising. Less than a minute later we go 3-2 down and then concede another to eventually lose 4-2.
Our unbeaten run away from home had to end sooner or later but if results don't improve Ollie will be sacked before Christmas. The ironic thing is that our defensive record has got worse since we got a new defensive coach. 😲
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Well another complete fucking disaster for United. Away from home we go 2-1 down and see Rashford equalising. Less than a minute later we go 3-2 down and then concede another to eventually lose 4-2.
Our unbeaten run away from home had to end sooner or later but if results don't improve Ollie will be sacked before Christmas. The ironic thing is that our defensive record has got worse since we got a new defensive coach. 😲
Comedy Gold Harv.
Even the Burnley fans were cheering when the score flashed up.
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But Ole is rebuilding ;D ;D
Sancho looking the biz.
#OleIn
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For the first time in my life I've switched off a United match. 4-0 down at halftime.
Our problems defending only started after we got that new defensive coach from Chelsea. He needs to go. Maybe Chelsea are still paying him? 😲😂😂😂
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Oh well, it was only 0-5 in the end but at least we crippled one of their players 😂😂😂😝
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Sad fact for united fans is that the scoreline wasn't unexpected, especially with that classic McFred combo ;D
I wish it had been less because ole is now fucked and surely has to go. >:(
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Oh well, it was only 0-5 in the end but at least we crippled one of their players 😂😂😂😝
So you like the fact that Pogba lost discipline and hurt an opponent? Lets face it Ronaldo should have seen red too. You are living in the 90's mate....that's the problem you fans have. The game has moved on and your club can't influence officials and use financial muscle like they used to. Other teams have caught up and overtaken your lot in the transfer market and tactically by appointing better coaches. I hope Ole stays....But with your mindset i think Roy Keane would suit the style of play you believe would bring success back to the empty stands we saw yesterday ;D ;D ;D
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Oh well, it was only 0-5 in the end but at least we crippled one of their players 😂😂😂😝
So you like the fact that Pogba lost discipline and hurt an opponent? Lets face it Ronaldo should have seen red too. You are living in the 90's mate....that's the problem you fans have. The game has moved on and your club can't influence officials and use financial muscle like they used to. Other teams have caught up and overtaken your lot in the transfer market and tactically by appointing better coaches. I hope Ole stays....But with your mindset i think Roy Keane would suit the style of play you believe would bring success back to the empty stands we saw yesterday ;D ;D ;D
You must have missed those emojis, I was joking. :-*
It's only October so he's got time to turn things around but if he loses one of these next three games I think he's gone, especially if we get hammered in any of them. :o
I've no idea what's happened to our defending this season though. We usually have one of the best defensive records in the Premier League at the end of the season, the only exceptions were Moyes' disastrous season and Maureen's last season where he did his usual, did his best to get the sack for his usual massive payout. Something has changed at the coaching level. Maybe our new set piece coach has taken over general defensive coaching. No idea. But SOMETHING has changed somewhere.
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A win and a clean sheet for United against the Spuds. Goals from Ronnie, Cavani and Rashford.
With Varane back we switched to 3 at the back, should have done this against the red scouse gits last week imo, they couldn't handle Atletico playing 3 at the back, even if it meant using Shaw as a central defended or relying on Bailly.
So that's Ollie's job safe until Tuesday at least. That's us in 5th place and 3 points behind the Berties, who we're playing next week. 😎😁😎
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It was 2-2 on Tuesday which saved his job but now we're 0-2 down against the Berties and if it wasn't for De Gea we'd be going in 4 or 5 down. 🤬😡🤬
We've been bloody terrible so far.
Think Ollie may be looking at his P45 being placed in his hands if we don't score early in the second half. ☹
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What have you lot done to Sancho? He’s done nothing for you since you signed him, when he was at Dortmund, he was getting a goal or an assist every game, what a waste of money! 😂
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I don't know what's happened to ALL of our players tbh. All the way through the side our game is just...off.
We normally end up with one of the best defensive records in the Premier League at the end of the season since Fergie retired and last season we scored over 70 goals for the first time since Fergie went.
I think the set piece bloke we got off Chelsea has been doing general defensive coaching instead of just set pieces which could explain our defensive record so far this season but no idea why we can't stick the ball in the back of the net this season. 🤬😡🤬☹😭
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Manu had more shots on target against their keeper than they did Ederson lol.
I think the problem is obvious... unbalanced squad and a manager completely out of his depth... oh and McFred too.
Please keep OGS for the chelsea game in a few weeks, thanks.
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1-0 down already. So many mistakes. 🤬😡🤬
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He's gone if we lose this.
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2-0 down at halftime. We've been bloody terrible. Matic needs to come off at halftime, worst player on the pitch. I'd rather see McFred, he's been THAT bad. 🤬😡🤬
Think Ollie is going after this match.
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Stream has died, and so has Ollie's job at United now. I missed goals number 3 and 4 but I didn't need to see them to know that they were most likely down to poor defending again.
I've no idea what the fuck has happened to our defending this season. We usually end up with one of the best defensive records in the Premier League most seasons since Fergie left but this season we've been godawful at the back. 😲😭😲
Ollie has to go now.
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Ole should have been sacked last season, now there is no-one experienced available and you'll be relying on a caretaker for the rest of the season.. although to be fair, they can't do much worse..
I hope they keep him for another week at least ;D ;D
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Sacked last season? He ended up in 2nd place just 12 points behind City and got United to consecutive Champions League places for the first time since Fergie retired. United had shown clear progress for the first time since 2013.
SOMETHING has changed in terms of coaching this season, particularly defensively. I'm personally blaming it on that set piece trainer that we got from you lot but it's Ollie's responsibility at the end of the day, the buck stops with him so he needs to go. ☹
Ollie does deserve some recognition for the positive things that he did though, he had the balls to get rid of a shitload of deadwood that previous managers had signed and/or were happy to have hanging around.
We went from a back four of Valencia, Smalling, Jones and Young to a back four of Wan-Bissaka, Varane, Maguire and Shaw.
And he brought some backbone back to the side. With Moyes, van Gaal and Maureen as soon as we went a goal down that was pretty much game over, whereas with Ollie we could go 2-0 down and us United fans could see a potential comeback on the way.
But once Ollie does go the same problem will still be there - the Glazers. ☹
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Clear progress? Mourinho won you trophies, Looney won you trophies.. Ole won you nothing.. no progress I'm afraid.
I would hardly call 74 points clear progress either, given that in previous seasons you probably averaged around 70ish anyway... don't forget, Ole has spent way more money than the other managers aswell. I would hardly call the signings he made of James, Ighalo, Telles, Van De Beek great either - all complete shite in my book... and don't forget the mastery of selling prime aged Lukaku for less than you bought him for either.
Jury is out on the defense being much improved I'm afraid, all the players you've listed previously are all PL winners.. the ones you've listed now have won barely anything.
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Like I've said two consecutive Champions League places, he managed 6th, 3rd and 2nd. He got us scoring again last season too.
No idea what happened to us this season though, like I said I suspect that set piece guy we got from you took over general defensive coaching but it's impossible to know for sure.
All sorts of rumours doing the rounds for the next manager. Zidane not interested, Blanc as an interim, Rodgers could be coming in and probably worst of the lot Poch coming from PSG 😲
I want Ten Hag myself.
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1-1 draw this afternoon, missed the match cos I had a bad hypo and collapsed at home. 🤬😡🤬
Not a bad result but I won't comment on the match until I see the match on MUTV after midnight. 😁
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Well we were robbed by that penalty, there was a foul on Bailly before the penalty incident. VAR should have given us a free kick rather than a pen for Chelsea! 😲
Oh well, a point away from home wasn't a disaster though I guess.
More points dropped by Chelsea earlier today, going to be interesting to see what the table is going to look like once the Christmas and New Year fixtures have come and gone, both in terms of who's top and who's in the top four.
First match for Rangnick tomorrow against Palace and a few easyish fixtures for him for the next few weeks too.
Going to be interesting to see what changes he's going to make, we'll certainly be passing the ball forwards a lot more and our pressing will certainly improve too I would have thought. Not expecting too many differences tomorrow though because he would have only taken one training session by then.
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He ended up playing his favoured fast paced 4-2-2-2 with a high press, thought he might do that. 😎😁😎
Going to take a while for the players, particularly our forwards, to get used to this because playing like this means that you have less time to make decisions with your finishing.
Only one training session so far with this new system and it showed with Ronnie, Rashford, Sancho and Greenwood all making wrong decisions at times.
Still, good signs at this very early stage and once a few more weeks have passed you'll see that decision making improving and goals being scored.
The first half hour of the match United were all over Palace like a rash but they settled into the game more as United's bodies and brains tired. They didn't create as many chances as us and United won 1-0 with the goal coming from Fred and the assist from Greenwood.
Happy with what I've seen so far, the first clean sheet in ages and Rangnick got a well deserved win in his first match in charge.
We've got a decent chance of putting an unbeaten run together before our tougher matches start to come up in March, and by that time the players will be better drilled with Rangnick's style of football.
We'll be bound to pick up a few muscle injuries between now and then but we've got a big squad so should be able to cope.
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Well that was a bit shite, drew 1-1 with the Geordies after going 1-0 down after 7 minutes. They've gone from looking like they had a decent idea of what they were doing against Palace to looking like they haven't got to grips with the new way of playing at all.
I guess the long break didn't help matters but honestly we should be beating a side like Newcastle away from home without a problem.
Our pressing went right downhill, our passing was even worse and we got hardly any of our shots on target.
I can see us getting a DM next month, maybe even another central defender. Maguire needs to be dropped, Rashford needs to be dropped.
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Better last night with a 3-1 win against Burnley. Goals from McTominay, an own goal and Ronnie.
Rangnick continues his unbeaten run. 😎😁😎
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Well that unbeaten run was ended tonight with a piss poor performance AGAIN.
Honestly you could be forgiven for thinking that Ollie was in charge again! 😲☹ï¸😲
We need at least one, preferably two, central midfielders ASAP.
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And now away to Villa we surrender a 0-2 lead and throw away 2 points.
Why the FUCK haven't we bought at least ONE midfielder yet?!!? Fucking Glazers, that's why!!! >:( >:( >:(
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Another 2 points dropped.
These are the easy games that we're supposed to WIN ffs. 🤬😡🤬
Can't see us getting top four at the end of the season the way that we're going.
These fan protests can't start soon enough. 🤬😡🤬😡🤬
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And another draw. No idea what's happened to Maguire these last couple of years. Maybe something to do with the incident in Greece? He started off looking like a great signing when we first signed him but he's gone right downhill these last couple of years. :(
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A bit of a delay but the UK government have finally got around to sanctioning Abramovic.
Season ticket holders can still get hold of tickets but Chelsea can no longer sell tickets, nor buy or sell players.
Wish they would sort out our owners too, as well as the owners of Newcastle but those are pipe dreams right now unfortunately.
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They've also had a couple of sponsors cutting ties too, I suspect that more will follow.
Luckily Chelsea have a more than decent Yoof setup that haven't been given an opportunity to shine so it could be good news for some.
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News reports in the press saying that Abramovich is refusing to sell the club to anyone from a country that's sanctioning Russia and Oligarchs, which just leaves the Saudi bid and the government aren't keen on Saudis owning another Premier League club.
Not looking good for Chelsea fans so far, although of course thats assuming that these rumours are true. 😲
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Well that's our top 4 place fucked after that 1-1 draw with the Foxes. Guess I'll have to keep my fingers crossed that we don't get 5th place so that we can avoid the Europa League from ruining pur season next season. I'm SO pissed off right now!!! >:( >:( >:( :'(
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Beaten by Everton on the weekend too.
I'm REALLY hoping that the rumours of Ten Hag getting the job and bringing in either Meulensteen or McClaren in as the head coach are true, I'd much prefer the former but won't be upset at McClaren as an alternative, both are EXCELLENT coaches.
We need a complete rebuild, and that's going to take A LOT of time and patience. And of course a lot of support from the board and our shite owners.
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Great start to the season from united ;D ;D
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Great start to the season from united ;D ;D
At least we've got a manager right now 😝😂
It took 5 or 6 months for Ajax to get to terms with ten Hag's system and way of playing. I'm expecting the same sort of transition.
We're now in 5th place, 3 points away from the leaders, 1 point away from City in second place and 2 points ahead of your lot in sixth place.
We're not looking too shabby for a team 'in crisis', are we?
This season doesn't end for quite some time but the more I see from ten Hag the more convinced I am that he's the right man for the job.
Doing that extra 13km of running with the team was a great sign of leadership. He's still got a lot to prove but he's looking good so far.
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1-1 against Chelsea at Stamford Bridge. Not a bad result and we deserved a point at least from that match. 13 shots on goal, 6 on target.
Varane coming off injured was a bit of a blow, looks like he'll be out for a while ☹ï¸
I like what I'm seeing from United under ten Hag so far. Beaten arse, the red scouse gits, the Spuds and got a point against Chelsea. Most importantly we're playing decent football for the first time in years.
His signings are looking great so far too.
Won't be too long before United are back winning trophies again. 😎😁😎
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1-1 against Chelsea at Stamford Bridge. Not a bad result and we deserved a point at least from that match. 13 shots on goal, 6 on target.
Varane coming off injured was a bit of a blow, looks like he'll be out for a while ☹ï¸
I like what I'm seeing from United under ten Hag so far. Beaten arse, the red scouse gits, the Spuds and got a point against Chelsea. Most importantly we're playing decent football for the first time in years.
His signings are looking great so far too.
Won't be too long before United are back winning trophies again. 😎😁😎
And you only conceded 6 in the Derby :)
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Scored 3 though 😉
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So it's looking like we're finally getting rid of the Glazers!
I just hope we don't get anyone worse buying the club. The Glazers obviously shat themselves after the redcscouse gits went up for sale, thought they might miss a future buyer lol 😂
Not keen on being bought by an Arab state with a poor human rights record though. ☹ï¸
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Looks like Fat Frank is going to get the sack from Everton and Potter is going to get the sack from Chelsea soon.
Probably before 'Christmas' I would have thought. Seeing as we're around a month behind the usual traditional timeline I'd say that would be before the end of this month.
Who's going to win the sack race? My money would be on Fat Frank I think. 🤔
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So we've got the Berties next at Old Trafford then Palace and arse away. And arse have Spurs this weekend too.
If we win those next three games we could be in a title race 😲😲😲
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We ended up winning 2-1 and the equaliser was offside but given anyway lol 😂😂😂
We deserved the win though, City only had one shot on target and United had four. So that's good enough for me in what was a first class performance.
This is being printed on milk cartons in Manchester tomorrow morning:
I can't wait to see the milk cartons in Manchester tomorrow, I'll have to get my brother to buy me one up there:
M I S S I N G
Erling Braut Haaland, male, 22 years old with blond hair and wearing a Manchester City football kit.
Last seen in Luke Shaw's pocket at Old Trafford football ground in Manchester.
£51.2m reward for any information leading to his whereabouts.
😝😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😝
😎😁😎😁😎😁😎😁😎
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Not to sure how that goal was given in all honesty... Rashford didn't touch it but if that is not interfering with play then I don't know what is....
I'm an Arsenal fan so did us good but the decision for the goal to stand was truly shambolic lol.
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Not to sure how that goal was given in all honesty... Rashford didn't touch it but if that is not interfering with play then I don't know what is....
I'm an Arsenal fan so did us good but the decision for the goal to stand was truly shambolic lol.
The decision was ludicrous. Goes back to the 1990's when offside wasn't a law at Old Trafford if it benefited the home team. Funnily enough i see Howard Webb is recently back onboard at Stockley Park, so probably says a lot about that ridiculous decision. Moan United will probably rob Arsenal or Man City to win the PL with a few more decisions like this in their advantage....Will push the price up to sell to the highest bidder
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Not to sure how that goal was given in all honesty... Rashford didn't touch it but if that is not interfering with play then I don't know what is....
I'm an Arsenal fan so did us good but the decision for the goal to stand was truly shambolic lol.
The decision was ludicrous. Goes back to the 1990's when offside wasn't a law at Old Trafford if it benefited the home team. Funnily enough i see Howard Webb is recently back onboard at Stockley Park, so probably says a lot about that ridiculous decision. Moan United will probably rob Arsenal or Man City to win the PL with a few more decisions like this in their advantage....Will push the price up to sell to the highest bidder
Can't see us winning the Premier League this season, our current owners and board haven't done enough to strengthen the squad whilst everyone else has done.
You would have thought that the Glazers would have made a few signings to increase the value of the club's assets and guarantee a top four place but I guess they don't need to because there are plenty of buyers interested in buying the club. ☹ï¸
I think we'll get a top four place at the end of the season but we're pretty much screwed if Casemiro, Martinez or Rashford get injured. 🤔
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Looks like Greenwood's Court case has been dropped. Doesn't matter to me, I don't want to see him wearing a United shirt again. Get. Rid.
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Looks like Greenwood's Court case has been dropped. Doesn't matter to me, I don't want to see him wearing a United shirt again. Get. Rid.
Are you saying this on football ability or media reports? Would you say the same if it was perhaps Marcus Rashford? Do you know exactly what happened or just biased by what you read in the Sun newspaper or online? Nobody knows the true facts of what happened here. And just would like to say, there are other teams called United outside of Manchester.....your club haven't yet bought that moniker despite thinking you are better than all other teams called United.
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I'd say exactly the same thing.
The only thing that could possibly change my mind is if it was revealed that the rest of the recording made clear that they were playing some kind of consensual sex game or something.
Some people may say that he deserves a second chance but for me he's already had it. Remember the nitrous oxide shenanigans a couple of years ago?
Looks like the other players have made the decision for United anyway by the looks of things.
Such a shame that he's proven to be another Morrison. What a waste of talent.
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I had to double check this when I saw it on Facebook just now:
Rashford in 2023 has scored the same amount of goals ( 8 ) as Chelsea and Liverpool combined. 😲😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😲😲😂😂😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😂😲😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😲😲😲😲😂😲😂😲
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City are deep in the 💩 right now lol 😲😂
Over a hundred breaches of FFP Regulations spanning 14 seasons 😲😂😂😂
If City get deducted 15 points today, just like Juventus did, they would STILL be above Chelsea and the red scouse gits in 9th place lol 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
You have to wonder what their punishment is going to be like. Over 100 breaches? Spanning 14 seasons?
For something that bad the punishment has to be pretty harsh.
Maybe a 15 point ban for every season lol 😂
The good news for United fans in that case is that Ollie will have won a title and United would get 3 in total. The bad news for United fans is that Slippy G will get a Premier League winners medal and the red scouse gits would get another 3 in total lol 😂😂😂
Probably just a 15 point ban like Juventus though I would have thought. The FA are pretty toothless and don't have brass ones big enough to make the punishment fit the crime.
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If there had been FFP rules enforced during the 1990's, Manchester United would still be the average team they were in the 1980's. Chelsea would never had won a Premier League. Blackburn Rovers would not have had their day. Manchester City would be in the National League, and Arsene Wenger would probably have a knighthood and 6 Champions League trophies.
Easy to call out other clubs for spending unfairly when your own club outspent everyone else in the past with no rules or scrutiny.
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It was perfectly legal back then. The difference is that the Berties have (allegedly) committed fraud to gain an advantage over everyone else.
United have ALWAYS had plenty of money to spend because we're one of the biggest and most popular clubs in world football, even in the 70s and 80s when we were shite. We haven't spent beyond our means and we haven't (allegedly) made up shell companies that have 'sponsored' us, with the only address being a dodgy PO Box somewhere (allegedly) lol 😂😂😂
We're probably going to get rich owners buying us pretty soon, but they won't NEED to commit fraud to get a transfer kitty because we have such a huge fan base around the world happy to buy United merchandise and match tickets.
The Berties can't even fill their stadium every week lol 😲😂😂😂😲
Just wait until the Glazers have gone, you're going to see fans (including my good self) buying United merchandise again after boycotting it for so long because we didnt want to give the parasites any money. Don't be surprised to see United being the top earners in revenue when the accounts are done next year. 😉
And once the Glazers have gone you'll see sponsors rushing to give the new owners money now that they're going to be history, no fan protests, a top quality manager for the first time since Fergie retired and what's almost certain to be trophies on the way unless the new owners are insane and sack ten Hag for some bizarre reason.
ten Hag said it recently, all eras end. And by the looks of things City have a chance of being relegated to non league football just like Rangers did, the red scouse gits are struggling to score, as are Chelsea, and United are looking like they're about to be back to their best during the next few years. 😎😁😎
Mind you, the next three matches are going to be a struggle without Casemiro 🤔☹ï¸
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It was perfectly legal back then. The difference is that the Berties have (allegedly) committed fraud to gain an advantage over everyone else.
United have ALWAYS had plenty of money to spend because we're one of the biggest and most popular clubs in world football, even in the 70s and 80s when we were shite. We haven't spent beyond our means and we haven't (allegedly) made up shell companies that have 'sponsored' us, with the only address being a dodgy PO Box somewhere (allegedly) lol 😂😂😂
We're probably going to get rich owners buying us pretty soon, but they won't NEED to commit fraud to get a transfer kitty because we have such a huge fan base around the world happy to buy United merchandise and match tickets.
The Berties can't even fill their stadium every week lol 😲😂😂😂😲
Just wait until the Glazers have gone, you're going to see fans (including my good self) buying United merchandise again after boycotting it for so long because we didnt want to give the parasites any money. Don't be surprised to see United being the top earners in revenue when the accounts are done next year. 😉
And once the Glazers have gone you'll see sponsors rushing to give the new owners money now that they're going to be history, no fan protests, a top quality manager for the first time since Fergie retired and what's almost certain to be trophies on the way unless the new owners are insane and sack ten Hag for some bizarre reason.
ten Hag said it recently, all eras end. And by the looks of things City have a chance of being relegated to non league football just like Rangers did, the red scouse gits are struggling to score, as are Chelsea, and United are looking like they're about to be back to their best during the next few years. 😎😁😎
Mind you, the next three matches are going to be a struggle without Casemiro 🤔☹ï¸
What a complete load of bollocks. Manchester United were not a big club in world football until Sky Sports threw money at football in this country. They were the original dirty spenders in English football by tapping up rival teams players. The only difference between Manchester United and Manchester City is that the FL and FA turned a blind eye to what was going on back then. Manchester City are under a lot more scrutiny these days. It doesn't make their achievements any less than your beloved club who did exactly the same before FFP became a thing.
As for the Glazers involvement at Old Trafford. They consistently fund huge transfers and wages. Other clubs would bite their hands off for that kind of investment. These people are billionaires for a reason, why would they care about supporters opinion when they keep the club stable financially? They have hardly run the club into the ground, just protected their initial investment. Fans of other clubs look at your fans as glory hunters who only whinge about the owners when they don't buy them success like they could in the past when the competition wasn't there.Lets not forget it's the Glazers who employ Ten Hagg....Any thanks to them for your reversal in fortunes of late? I really hope the Glazers give your fans what they want and it goes pear shaped with an owner who is more frugal with the finances. That would be Karma
;D ;D ;D
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United have been one of the biggest clubs in world football since the 50s. This didn't start in the 90s. We've had fans all over the world since Busby introduced his Babes to Europe. Then we had Best, Charlton and Law in the 60s and early 70s. Big name players. High profile club. Even in the mid to late 70s and the 80s when we were shite (and relegated) we had more fans than everyone else lol. United having hundreds of millions of fans worldwide DID NOT start with Fergie, but it did help of course.
Have you seen the state Old Trafford..? The bloomin roof has been leaking these last couple of years.
The Glazers have made some ATROCIOUS appointments in terms of upper management and managers. The team in charge of transfers can only concentrate on ONE signing at a time lol.
The Glazers have taken 1.5 billion quid out of the club since they've owned it. It's their personal piggy bank and has been since they bought it.
And protected their initial investment? They didn't invest that much, just enough to buy the minimum amount of shares and exploited a loophole in the law (which has now closed thankfully, stopping other clubs from getting in this mess!) which allowed them to use the club's assets to get a loan to buy the club. AND THAT DEBT IS STILL THERE!!!
The ten Hag appointment is the ONLY decent decision they've made. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
All us United fans want is an owner that knows his football and supports United. Radcliffe does, the Qatari bunch do too.
Whoever buys United will either extend the South stand over the railway line or build a new stadium. The Qatari bunch have said that they're going to involve the fans in the decision (my option would be the former NEVER the latter). Human rights issues aside they're making all the right noises atm.
Once that stadium is either extended or a new one built United will end up being able to spend £500m every year without needing to sell any players and stay within FFP Regulations thanks to a 90,000+ seater stadium and fans ending their Glazer boycott around the world and buying United gear again. And with no fan protests we'll see big sponsors coming back too, more revenue for United for transfers.
And everyone will moan about rich owners without the new owners spending a penny of their own money on transfers lol :P
United are on their way back (despite getting beaten by Leeds atm lol). Hated. Adored. Never ignored. ;D
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Well that was embarrassing 😳 😭😭😭
7 bloody 0. Against the red scouse gits. That's our Quadruple out of the window lol ☹ï¸😂😂😂
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Liverpool 7 - 0 Biggest Club in World Football ;D ;D ;D
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Still up for a Treble, even though it'll be a Mickey Mouse one :P ;)
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Oh well, we'll have to make do with the Domestic Cup Double instead. One of the very few things we haven't won 😝😎😝
News on the United buyout isn't good. There are rumours that Ratcliffe has agreed to buy 49% of the Glazer shares and will be giving Abram and Joel Glazer 20% shares between them.
This, if it's true, is going to be a disaster for United. The only option for United is Jassim/Qatar buying the club.
Ratcliffe doesn't have enough money to buy the club in the first place, he's having to borrow money to do it. And if he doesn't have the money to buy the club he certainly doesn't have the money to pay off the £1bn of debt that the Glazers have lumbered the club with, nor the money to repair Old Trafford, expand it/build a new stadium nor do the work needing to be done at Carrington.
I was worried about Ratcliffe doing this when his PR team mentioned 'incentives'.
The club has to pay off the 'United credit card' debt of £200m+ before the end of June.
The Glazers and Ratcliffe combined could see United going into Administration ffs. 😲☹ï¸😲😭
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The club has to pay off the 'United credit card' debt of £200m+ before the end of June.
The Glazers and Ratcliffe combined could see United going into Administration ffs. 😲☹ï¸😲😭
So, it seems all Manchester United fans want the Quatari bid in favour of the Glazers trying to find a bidder that will help them balance the books so they can keep financing the transfers the fans have been used to under their ownership?
What exactly do you fans want? All you ever do is blame the owners for your lack of success. Then you say your neighbours success means nothing because of their oil rich owners. I actually hope the Glazers sell your club to poundland for a quid because us fans of other clubs who struggle week to week are sick of hearing you ungrateful lot whinging and mithering about how hard done by your club is. Be grateful for what you have. It could be alot worse under new ownership.
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We want the Glazers 100% out of the club. The only bidder that's going to do that is Jassim.
Sure, United HAVE spent a lot of money, but because we have clowns in charge of transfer and contract negotiations, United have overspent.
They paid MORE than Fellaini's release clause years ago. They could have signed Antony for £50m less, and had him ready for preseason training and fixtures if they were any good at their jobs. They also overspent on Maguire, Sanchez, Pogba...the list goes on and on.
The first thing that a new owner will do is clear the board (and that's going to cost £500m+ at least), clear the likes of Murtough and Judge out of handling transfer and contract negotiations, get us record breaking shirt sponsorship deal, pay off the billion quids worth of debts, and either build a new stadium or extend and repair the shambles that is Old Trafford and do the work that needs doing to Carrington.
£6bn to buy the club, and around £4bn to £5bn to fix everything that the Glazers have broken due to their neglect and mismanagement.
The majority of the fans (including me) wanted ten Hag, the media wanted Poch.
And I'll tell you why we got ten Hag. NOTHING to do with football knowledge that he has, it was entirely down to his wage demands being lower than that of Poch and Conte. 😲😂
The news media, especially the Athletic, have a clear agenda against Jassim and for the Rat 🐀. Hopefully us fans will get what we want again.
With the right business nouse, United would have been self sufficient when it comes to spending. And they will be again. Releasing a Green and Gold second kit will be a licence to print money, people that have been boycotting the club will start spending again, and not having those debts to service will give United an extra £100m to spend every year, and extending the stadium or building a new one will almost certainly raise an extra £200m every year through increased match day revenue.
And now that we're FINALLY addressing our wage bill issue, don't be surprised to see United spending £400m+ every year without falling foul of the FFP Regulations and without fiddling anything the way that the Berties (allegedly) did over 12 years or so.
Once this sale to Jassim is done (if they were going to accept the Rat 🐀 deal, they would have done so weeks ago) United will be on their back to the top.
Hated. Adored. Never ignored. 😎😁😎😉
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So basically it's all about the money ;D ;D ;D
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So basically it's all about the money ;D ;D ;D
Football has ALWAYS been about money.
The problem that us United fans have with the Glazers is that if the club had been run well, with the best people employed to handle things like transfer and contract negotiations and expanding Old Trafford, United would have spent wisely on players, not had a crazy wage bill and would have an extra £200m or so to spend every Summer. And not be £1bn in debt.
The Glazers have run this club VERY badly and have bled the club dry. This is why the majority of fans in every poll except one (a dodgy one from the Athletic, who have an agenda against Jassim/Qatar for some reason) are in favour of Jassim/Qatar owning the club.
It's going to take £4bn or so to fix the damage that the Glazers have done to the club over the last 18 years.
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You are still talking bollocks Harv! It's all about the money and buying trophies for Manchester United.....i won't call you United because there are actually other clubs called United too, but you probably don't know that because its all about you in that bullshit franchise you created in your heads with Sky Sports during the 1990's.
As a supporter of a club who will never be in the Premier League, i find your football club and fans absolutely toxic and hopefully karma will carry on with it's good work.
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Again, football has ALWAYS been about money. United players were getting individual sponsorship deals with companies in the 50s after Busby brought the Busby Babes into the side.
But United have never spent more than they've earned, this is due to United being one of the three biggest clubs in the world, along with Real Madrid and Barcelona. These three clubs are the biggest supported clubs in world football.
But the Glazers have mismanaged the club since they took over. Apart from the £200m or so that they spent to get the 30% shares that triggered a mandatory full buyout of the club, they haven't put a PENNY into United.
They've taken £1.5bn out and put the club almost £1bn in debt. Old Trafford's roof is leaking, the toilets have been leaking piss and shite all over the place and the Women's team don't even have proper toilets. They have to use portaloos 😲😲😲
We need the Glazers 100% out of the club, this is why the majority of us are 100% behind the Jassim/Qatar bid for ownership. The Rat 🐀 is willing and eager to leave the Glazers with 20% of the club for a few years. These people have practically destroyed United.
Yes, we've spent a billion quid or so, but because a bunch of dodgy merchant bankers made their dodgy buyout possible (this sort of dodgy buyout is now prohibited 🚫), they decided to give them the top jobs despite them all knowing NOTHING about football 😲😲😲
As soon as United is sold, big changes are coming to United. Give it 3 years for that damage to be repaired and we'll start to dominate football again. Not even the likes of City, Newcastle and Chelsea will be able to stop us. With a 95,000 to 100,000 seater stadium and people that know what they're doing when it comes to transfers and contracts, we'll be able to spend anywhere between £500m and £600m every season.
Our dominance of the game should NEVER have ended if the Glazers were responsible owners, and once they're gone we're going to get it back. 😎😁😎
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As soon as United is sold, big changes are coming to United. Give it 3 years for that damage to be repaired and we'll start to dominate football again. Not even the likes of City, Newcastle and Chelsea will be able to stop us. With a 95,000 to 100,000 seater stadium and people that know what they're doing when it comes to transfers and contracts, we'll be able to spend anywhere between £500m and £600m every season.
Our dominance of the game should NEVER have ended if the Glazers were responsible owners, and once they're gone we're going to get it back. 😎😁😎
All you go on about is buying success Harv! ;D This is why other clubs look at your supporters as ignorant glory hunters. Your so called "Dominance" only happened in the first place because other clubs could not compete financially. Other clubs have caught up and Manchester United fans have been throwing their toys out of the pram ever since. Were you not all going to support FC United of Manchester when you all started this temper tantrum against the owners? 8)
You are assuming new owners will give you what you wan't. It doesn't always work that way. Other clubs who get financially ransacked by dubious owners get punished. You lot should count yourself lucky that you get preferential treatment from football authorities.
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Apparently, according to rumours, the board aren't releasing funds for ten Hag to buy players. Meanwhile this sale continues to drag on for ages and players that ten Hag wanted go to other clubs. It wouldn't surprise me if ten Hag ends up resigning over this shambles. I wouldn't blame him if he does. 😡🤬😡
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Shame Brendan Rogers has gone back to Celtic then. He could have got you relegated in 3 years! 8) ;D ;)
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Might be the only way of getting rid of the Glazers, the way things are going.
Honestly, I'd take relegation next season if it meant getting rid of them. And I'm sure that I'm not the only United fan thinking this way. 😲
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The clowns in charge of our transfers continue to do NOTHING.
Harry Maguire is a disgrace and refusing to leave without a BIG payoff. Bailly is the same.
With Henderson on the way we have more than enough money to get Amrabat signed, but the speed that these idiots move I can't see us signing him before Friday.
Only three players signed so far: Onana, Mount and Hojlund. Amrabat has been turning down offers for the last two months, including from the scousers and Saudi Arabia 😲😲😲
We need Amrabat who will replace Fred, a central defender if Maguire eventually goes and Gravenberg if van de Beek ends up going.
Five transfers in 7 days. Can't see it happening. 🤬😡🤬☹ï¸
If I had to rate our transfers out of 10 so far, it would be 5 at best. The signings of Amrabat, Todibo and Gravenberg would add another 2 points to our score, 7/10. But I can't see it happening.
We also need another striker, too 🤬😡🤬☹ï¸
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Don't worry Harv, VAR will give you plenty more points than any of those transfers this season! ;D ;D ;D
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Don't worry Harv, VAR will give you plenty more points than any of those transfers this season! ;D ;D ;D
Hasn't worked so far, we've had 3 stonewall penalties denied to us in the first two games lol 😲😂😂😂
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Don't worry Harv, VAR will give you plenty more points than any of those transfers this season! ;D ;D ;D
Hasn't worked so far, we've had 3 stonewall penalties denied to us in the first two games lol 😲😂😂😂
Stonewall penalties? What like Rashford's on the weekend? ;D Old Trafford is the Theatre of VAR injustices! Still got Howard Webb on the payroll 8)
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And there goes the Jassim bid ;D ;D ;D
I've heard Poundland are still in the running though! 8)
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And there goes the Jassim bid ;D ;D ;D
I've heard Poundland are still in the running though! 8)
Not necessarily. The Rat 🐀 bid needs to be voted in by the board. And there's no official statement by the Nine Two Foundation that they've withdrawn their bid.
I'm hoping that at least one of the board members is going to do what's best for the club.
They were supposed to vote today but it didn't end up happening, so maybe the Glazers know that they don't have 100% support from the board for the Rat and his bid.
If this vote does go through, United could end up going bust during the next 5 to 10 years. Hopefully some of the board members know this.
The Rat has had to borrow money just to buy 25%, no idea where he's going to get the money from to sort out Old Trafford and Carrington.
Sure, there's a possibility that the Rat can repair the damage that the Glazers have done to the club over the last 18 years, but that's going to cost A LOT of money and will take the Rat 🐀 twice as long as it would Jassim.
Jassim can save United and bring us back to the top in 5 years, the Rat 🐀 will take at least 10. But you've also got to look at the mess that he's made of the two clubs that he already owns: one has been relegated TWICE and the other struggles to get Champions League football.
It's all up to the board now ☹ï¸â˜¹ï¸â˜¹ï¸
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Not necessarily. The Rat 🐀 bid needs to be voted in by the board. And there's no official statement by the Nine Two Foundation that they've withdrawn their bid.
I'm hoping that at least one of the board members is going to do what's best for the club.
They were supposed to vote today but it didn't end up happening, so maybe the Glazers know that they don't have 100% support from the board for the Rat and his bid.
If this vote does go through, United could end up going bust during the next 5 to 10 years. Hopefully some of the board members know this.
The Rat has had to borrow money just to buy 25%, no idea where he's going to get the money from to sort out Old Trafford and Carrington.
Sure, there's a possibility that the Rat can repair the damage that the Glazers have done to the club over the last 18 years, but that's going to cost A LOT of money and will take the Rat 🐀 twice as long as it would Jassim.
Jassim can save United and bring us back to the top in 5 years, the Rat 🐀 will take at least 10. But you've also got to look at the mess that he's made of the two clubs that he already owns: one has been relegated TWICE and the other struggles to get Champions League football.
It's all up to the board now ☹ï¸â˜¹ï¸â˜¹ï¸
Don't you think it's a bit disrespectful to keep calling a potential investor in your club "the Rat" all the time Harv? My opinion is the toxicity of the fanbase at Manchester United is something that doesn't do the club any favours at all. You say you wan't the Glazers out, and on the other hand criticise an investor who might help serve that purpose. Fans of other clubs couldn't care less about your constant whining and crying because they still see you trying to buy success with the owners you already have.
Like i've said before. Manchester United fans don't deserve good owners when they are so ungrateful for what they have. If you fans created a bit of good karma and stopped being so negative, the rest of football might actually have some sympathy. As it stands, i hope Sir Jim Ratcliffe actually walks away from any deal. Your fans and the Glazers deserve each other. ;)
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We'd like nothing more than for the Rat 🐀 to walk away from the deal. Not going to happen though, unfortunately ☹ï¸
The Glazers are desperate for cash right now, especially Darcy. If the Rat 🐀 pulls out then Jassim is in.
As far as I and the majority of United fans are concerned, the Rat 🐀 is an enemy of the club 🤬😡🤬
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We'd like nothing more than for the Rat 🐀 to walk away from the deal. Not going to happen though, unfortunately ☹ï¸
The Glazers are desperate for cash right now, especially Darcy. If the Rat 🐀 pulls out then Jassim is in.
As far as I and the majority of United fans are concerned, the Rat 🐀 is an enemy of the club 🤬😡🤬
Haha.....last i heard, Jassim has given up on the Salford Skipdivers and is looking at Inter Milan and Spurs for his Quatari Sportswahing machine ;D ;D ;D
If that's the kind of owner you fans want at your club, you really do not have any morals or interest in the English game. It's you ruining your club, and your so blind you cant see it 8)
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We'd like nothing more than for the Rat 🐀 to walk away from the deal. Not going to happen though, unfortunately ☹ï¸
The Glazers are desperate for cash right now, especially Darcy. If the Rat 🐀 pulls out then Jassim is in.
As far as I and the majority of United fans are concerned, the Rat 🐀 is an enemy of the club 🤬😡🤬
Haha.....last i heard, Jassim has given up on the Salford Skipdivers and is looking at Inter Milan and Spurs for his Quatari Sportswahing machine ;D ;D ;D
If that's the kind of owner you fans want at your club, you really do not have any morals or interest in the English game. It's you ruining your club, and your so blind you cant see it 8)
There are all sorts of rumours doing the rounds, but I don't believe that Jassim has withdrawn from the race.
Why would he?
He won't do just in case this Rat 🐀 deal falls through and his 100% bid is in play again.
They were supposed to have a board meeting yesterday for the vote for this deal, but it was postponed. So it's looking like either the Rat 🐀 or the Glazers or both weren't confident of securing enough votes, or there was some sort of issue with the terms of the deal.
And the club has already been ruined, the Glazers have seen to that over the last 18 years.
Old Trafford used to be the best ground in the country, better than Wembley before they did it up. And now look at it. The toilets and roof leak and there's only rust holding it together. Health & Safety will end up closing the thing down if the Glazers aren't careful. And no, that isn't hyperbole. 😲😲😲
The Rat 🐀 has had to borrow money to buy 25% of the club. So where the fuck is he going to find the money to build a new stadium? That's going to cost £2bn. Bringing Carrington into the 21st Century will probably cost £500m or so. Where's he going to find the money to pay off the £1bn+ worth of debts? Where's he going to find the money to buy players? An owner of the club can put in 20% of the club's revenue to fund the purchase of players. That's around £120m.
Now if this was 18 months or so ago I and many others would have bitten the Rat's 🐀 hand off if it meant getting rid of the Glazers, but if this deal goes through they could be here for YEARS more. 3? 5? 10?!? 😲🤬😡🤬
Now they're saying that he's going to be in charge of sporting decisions, but only owning 25% of the shares means that he's not in charge of the purse strings, the Glazers are.
We could have bought Caicedo and Haaland years ago for a pittance, and the Glazers weren't interested.
If this deal goes ahead, United could end up going bust during the next 5 to 10 years if the Rat 🐀 runs United as badly as he has his other two clubs, especially with the £1bn+ debt hanging over us.
But even if he does a stellar job it's going to take 10 years at least to get us back to the top, and at 71 years old he might be dead by then. Who takes over then? 😲
Jassim is rich, he's young and according to Xavi he knows his onions when it comes to football. He could have United back to the top in 5 years and is the ideal man to secure lucrative sponsorship deals from the Middle East (although we'll lose the ones we currently have in Saudi Arabia). He won't have to borrow money to do any of this.
The Glazers have abused the club for too long as it is. The majority of us want them out.
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After that home drubbing in the derby match, i'd say you need to change your mind about Sir Jim Ratcliffe Harv. It's the only short term positive you can hold onto apart from yet another change of manager. You blame the Glazers for everything that's wrong, so giving someone else a chance can only be a good thing.
I've heard Joey Barton is available and would probably do a better job than Ten (pence) Hag, and Wayne will probably be down the jobcentre next week. So the Glazers probably do have options ;) ;D 8)
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ten Hag had things right in the first half, and the game was pretty close. We didn't deserve to go in a goal down at halftime and that penalty decision was fucking ridiculous.
But his subs were pretty suspect AGAIN and City were all over us in the second half.
I think that Rashford needs to be dropped, too. He, Bruno and Casemiro are all knackered and need a rest.
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ten Hag had things right in the first half, and the game was pretty close. We didn't deserve to go in a goal down at halftime and that penalty decision was fucking ridiculous.
But his subs were pretty suspect AGAIN and City were all over us in the second half.
I think that Rashford needs to be dropped, too. He, Bruno and Casemiro are all knackered and need a rest.
Harv, that was a penalty all day. If it was at the other end you would say the same. Your team could have lost by 8 goals today if City were firing on all cylinders. Your manager is light years away from improving your team, his decisions week after week look dubious. You cant blame the owners when there is all that talent playing on the pitch. They certainly don't need a rest, they need better management.
The Theatre of Rust looks embarrassing these days. Sir Jim Ratcliffe is your only chance of changing your short term future. Be grateful he actually wan'ts to help. Other clubs would bite his hand off. ;)
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So United have had a pretty disastrous season so far, mainly down to a ridiculous amount of injuries that we haven't seen since van Gaal (we had 98 injuries that season 😲). But we're only 7 points from the leaders and 3 points away from the Berties.
Probably getting knocked out of the Champions League but that's no surprise when you take our injuries this season into account. What we REALLY don't want is Europa League football, way too many games to play!!! 😲
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So United have had a pretty disastrous season so far, mainly down to a ridiculous amount of injuries that we haven't seen since van Gaal (we had 98 injuries that season 😲). But we're only 7 points from the leaders and 3 points away from the Berties.
Probably getting knocked out of the Champions League but that's no surprise when you take our injuries this season into account. What we REALLY don't want is Europa League football, way too many games to play!!! 😲
Most top teams have had injuries this season Harv. Stop making excuses. You are where you are because of a poor manager, the fans being negative on matchdays at that rusty slum of a ground and your players who have an over inflated idea of their talent.
Bournemouth went there today and exposed every problem in your squad. They outplayed your brats in every department. They left the ref to make decisions without surrounding him and acting like Bruno "baby" Fernandez, they controlled the game without play acting and they took their chances when they came.
Manchester United is rotten from the fanbase up. It's nothing to do with the owners.
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Nowhere near as many injuries as we've had, although the Geordies seem to be catching up a little. This has almost been as bad as they were that season under van Gaal when we had 98 injuries in one season, which I'm pretty sure is still a Premier League record. 😲😲😲
Unfortunately the squad needs a good clear out, and has needed it for years, but thanks to the Glazers' mismanagement of the club, we're unable to do so. All of the players on the United books are DEBT ASSETS, so we can't just get rid for any old price, otherwise the banks that we owe money to will have a nervous breakdown.
We know that Blanc and Mitchell are going to improve our business revenue, wage bill and recruitment but with that debt we can't just clear the decks. Hopefully Blanc will increase revenue and reduce the wage bill enough so that we can start paying off our debts, he worked wonders for Juventus.
I'm not too worried about the game this afternoon, Bournemouth have been on a crazy run of form lately so it was always going to be a difficult game, and I'm pretty sure that we'll get a top 4 place at the end of the season. ten Hag has been giving the side a crazy amount of fitness training for the same reason that van Gaal did, they're nowhere near fit enough to do what he wants them to do, but next season we'll be a completely different side before you even start to think about new additions next month and in the Summer.
I'm not worried 😉
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So that's us out of the Champions League and thankfully out of the Europa League, just like I wanted if we didn't beat Bayern. So we ended up getting the second best result imo.
Means that we'll have less games to play until the end of the season. Getting Europa League football would have been a DISASTER with our injury-ravaged squad, although we did pick up more injuries tonight 🤬😡🤬☹️
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Wow....You don't want to progress in European Competition? Pretty much shows how plastic you Manc Utd fans are! Better blame the Glazers again that your only focus is on the EPL ?
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Wow....You don't want to progress in European Competition? Pretty much shows how plastic you Manc Utd fans are! Better blame the Glazers again that your only focus is on the EPL ?
Not with the injuries that we have right now, no. If we don't get top four I'd also want us to miss out on the Europa League and Europa Conference, too. It was bad enough before, but even worse now that they've changed the format. There are way too many games to play in each competition.
My focus is on the Premier League, both domestic Cup competitions and the Champions League, always is, always has been and always will be. The other European competitions are Mickey Mouse.
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Do you actually support Manchester United Harv? Sounds like you are more interested in that clubs finances than actually supporting them as a team. If you are the like the majority of Manc United fans, no wonder the club is such a shit show from bottom to top ;D ;D ;D ;D
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The Europa League and Europa Conference are the two least important trophies out of the lot. And if we were in the Europa League, with currently 13 players unavailable due to injury and suspension, it would give us too many games to play and affect our ability to get a top four place.
And of course I care about the finances of my club, so should every football fan. Because at the end of the day, spending money wins you trophies. Always has done, always will do. This is why bringing in Blanc to replace Arnold is so important. And why bringinging in Mitchell is also so important. The former will bring in more money to spend, the latter will have us handling transfers properly for the first time in 13 years.
Our recruitment has been bloody terrible since before Fergie retired. We've let good quality Yoof players go for peanuts and overspent bringing in other players. With a half decent bloke in charge of transfers, we would have got Antony in for £45m in June instead of £85m in August.
Unfortunately it's not looking like we're going to get the Rat 🐀 deal done in time for the January transfer window, but we should see an improvement of both incoming and outgoing players in the Summer.
I'm just hoping that the Rat 🐀 is going to stick with ten Hag, because he's the right man for the job. He, like all of the managers since Fergie retired, has been let down by everyone above him. There are also rumours that the Rat 🐀 is going to sort out the medical staff that the board refused to do when ten Hag asked for it to be done last Summer.
The Glazers have destroyed this club over the last 18 years. The finances are screwed, Old Trafford is screwed, Carrington is screwed and morale throughout the entire club is screwed. And it's going to take a LONG time and a lot of money to fix the damage, this is why it was so important for Jassim to buy the club. The Rat 🐀 can fix this damage, but it's going to take him 10 years or so to do so, Jassim would have fixed it in 5 years.
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I bet you lot will blame the Glazers for the unsafe food they serve at that dump too? I feel sorry for Sir Jim Ratcliffe....not only are the team and fans full of poison....they serve it to consume as well ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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By the way.....HAPPY CHRISTMAS HARV 8)
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I bet you lot will blame the Glazers for the unsafe food they serve at that dump too? I feel sorry for Sir Jim Ratcliffe....not only are the team and fans full of poison....they serve it to consume as well ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
One of the presenters from MUTV that was at that event said that it looked and smelt lovely lol 😂
Meanwhile (hopefully) ten Hag has worked out that playing players in their best positions gets results. He's made some questionable decisions in recent weeks. Now we've gone back to playing Bruno as the number 10 and Rashford on the left and giving Mainoo support in the middle of the park, we got a great result against Villa. 😎😁😎
And there are rumours that the clowns in charge of transfers are being replaced, too. And I'm sure that Blanc, our new CEO, will do what he usually does - bring our ridiculous wage bill down and at the same time bring in extra revenue.
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Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year 🎅🎄🎅
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I bet you lot will blame the Glazers for the unsafe food they serve at that dump too? I feel sorry for Sir Jim Ratcliffe....not only are the team and fans full of poison....they serve it to consume as well ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
One of the presenters from MUTV that was at that event said that it looked and smelt lovely lol 😂
Meanwhile (hopefully) ten Hag has worked out that playing players in their best positions gets results. He's made some questionable decisions in recent weeks. Now we've gone back to playing Bruno as the number 10 and Rashford on the left and giving Mainoo support in the middle of the park, we got a great result against Villa. 😎😁😎
And there are rumours that the clowns in charge of transfers are being replaced, too. And I'm sure that Blanc, our new CEO, will do what he usually does - bring our ridiculous wage bill down and at the same time bring in extra revenue.
Wow.....Sounds like you actually want a rat at your club now Harv? Funny how fickle you mancs are when you smell money in your pockets ;D ;D ;D
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I'd still rather have Jassim, but the Rat 🐀 seems to be making the right noises.
But Jassim isn't out of the running anyway, despite that 25% deal, the Rat 🐀 under the terms of the deal can be forced to sell those shares if someone does a full takeover.
And there are rumours that Jassim is taking the Glazers to court, too. 😲
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I'd still rather have Jassim, but the Rat 🐀 seems to be making the right noises.
But Jassim isn't out of the running anyway, despite that 25% deal, the Rat 🐀 under the terms of the deal can be forced to sell those shares if someone does a full takeover.
And there are rumours that Jassim is taking the Glazers to court, too. 😲
There are also rumours Manchester united will be hit by Financial fines at long last too. Sadly we all know it will never happen, but fingers crossed one day you lot will get punished too ;D ;D ;D
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Big breaking news yesterday, and the staff at the Berties are shitting themselves over it. We've nicked Omar Berrada, their COO and he's going to be outer new CEO.
This is HUGE.
Looks like Ineos are going to clamp down on United overpaying for transfers. This is the guy who played a key part in signing Rodri and Haaland.
Once we get Blanc, Mitchell and Ashworth (although the rumours are unclear whether we're employing one or both of those last two) our recruitment team is going to get a massive boost.
For 18 years we've had bankers that don't know a thing about football doing our transfers and wages.
As for fines, what are you suggesting that those fines are for? We've already paid a small £500,000 fine due to UEFA unexpectedly changing the rules, otherwise we've always been on the right side of the FFP Regulations.
We would have had another £30m to spend if the Glazers hadn't given it to the Raine Group instead of spending it on transfers this January.
I think that Omar has left City because he knows that they're getting relegated lol. And incidentally he's had nothing to do with their alleged dodgy shenanigans 😉😎😁😎
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Big breaking news yesterday, and the staff at the Berties are shitting themselves over it. We've nicked Omar Berrada, their COO and he's going to be outer new CEO.
This is HUGE.
Looks like Ineos are going to clamp down on United overpaying for transfers. This is the guy who played a key part in signing Rodri and Haaland.
Once we get Blanc, Mitchell and Ashworth (although the rumours are unclear whether we're employing one or both of those last two) our recruitment team is going to get a massive boost.
For 18 years we've had bankers that don't know a thing about football doing our transfers and wages.
As for fines, what are you suggesting that those fines are for? We've already paid a small £500,000 fine due to UEFA unexpectedly changing the rules, otherwise we've always been on the right side of the FFP Regulations.
We would have had another £30m to spend if the Glazers hadn't given it to the Raine Group instead of spending it on transfers this January.
I think that Omar has left City because he knows that they're getting relegated lol. And incidentally he's had nothing to do with their alleged dodgy shenanigans 😉😎😁😎
Wow....Sounds like your happy to have your Rat in the club now then? How fickle is a Yernited fan ? ;D ;D ;D
You do talk a load of bollocks Harv. You call out your neighbours about FFP, but forget your shithole of a club did exactly the same to buy success before the rules changed. Like ive said many times, your clubs supporters are hypocrites . Most overrated club in British football. 8)
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And by the way, your hero manager, Sir Alcoholic only won 2 European Cups in 26 years! Brian Clough did two years running and never got a knighthood. Bob Paisley won 3 in 4 years.... again no knighthood. Those managers didn't have any financial advantage like ole whiskey nose.I bet you will say Pep Guardiola is buying European success though? HYPOCRITE. 8)
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Fergie was unable to play full strength sides in Europe thanks to the 5 foreigner rule.
The 94 and 96 Double-winning sides were both BETTER than the 99 Treble winning side. Both of those sides would have won the Champions League, the only thing up for debate is whether they would have sacrificed the FA Cup in order to do so.
As for United's spending, you may want to watch this video and learn something. 😲😂
https://youtube.com/shorts/iSTJMM8Ilzo?si=S-5Vb_inc5CXH5aJ
The Berties have spent more than us from 2001 to 2021, (allegedly) breaking 115 FFP Regulations on the way.
And there's not many seasons where we spent more than everyone else. We DID break a few single player signing transfer records but most of those were successful signings.
United's problems regarding spending started when both Fergie and David Gill left the club at the same time.
This was when our scouting and recruitment teams, full of people that knew what they were doing, were replaced by ex merchant bankers and accountants that knew NOTHING about football.
The Rat 🐀 has now poached Berrada from City, and is in the process of poaching Ashworth from Newcastle, and are replacing the useless recruitment team with the best of the best. Those clowns in charge of recruitment and the last two clowns who were our CEO were useless. They only got their jobs because they all made the dodgy buyout possible!!! 😲
We're going to see our wage bill cut which will make it A LOT easier to sell players and we'll end up doing our business early. And we'll stop panicking at the end of each Summer and pay through the nose for players as well as stopping dodgy loans of players that are pretty much past it.
We're going to end up signing young players that most people haven't heard of, and be a better side because of it.
United are on their way back. I had my doubts about the Rat 🐀, and I'm still not entirely convinced, but he's making the right noises and bringing in the right people to improve our transfer business over the next few years.
We'll still end up paying United Tax when we sign anyone, usually around 20% or so, but our transfer ins and outs will be A LOT better during these next few years.
I'm disappointed that we didn't get Paul Mitchell though, and having both Mitchell and Ashworth working together.
The biggest change is that after previously trying and failing to get Ashworth at United, the Rat 🐀 has managed to tempt him to join. All that needs sorting out is his gardening leave. We'll probably end up paying a £10m compensation fee, but some of the media are claiming that the Geordies want as much as £30m lol. United Tax again 😲
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What a load of old bollocks!
You really don't have a clue about football do you Harv?
All about the money.....Cher-ching! Lets use the tax payer to build you a new stadium! Manchester United.....the club that bought everything and blamed everyone else for it's decline. Absolute shit show of a fanbase and the sooner it gets relegated the better 8) 8) 8)