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SundayLeague => Football => Topic started by: harv on January 04, 2020, 04:48:37 PM
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United playing the Woolufs away in the Third Round. Team news for United:
Romero
Young Lindelof Maguire Williams
Static Pereira
James Mata Chong
Greenwood
Bench: Grant, Jones, Rashford, Fred, Dalot, Gomes, Wan-Bissaka
7 changes and a young side with a bit of experience mixed in.
We're stuck with Static in the middle of the park because Pogba, McTominay, Garner and Levitt are all out injured. Bloody great. Static AND Mata in the same side. ::)
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VAR has denied us a penalty. Terrible decision. >:(
Pretty even game so far.
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Couple of substitutions. Fred on for Mata and Rashford on for James. A Wolves goal disallowed for handball. Phew!
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And they've hit the woodwork :o
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well.....
0 shots on target, hit the bar when i felt rash should have scored he never got his head up did he. I think we should have had a penalty from williams how that wasnt given i dont know. But didnt really deserve to win the game.
Only 0-0 in this round and it had to be us. Some FA Cup magic that was.
I felt Mata brought some creativity and was always looking for balls into feet but there was nobody ever in the box even for crosses.
Still not really sure what the game plan was except for get a replay and we certainly didnt want that lol.
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0-0 final score and a replay at Old Trafford. We need to make signings this month otherwise we'll be playing our U23s side towards the end of the season due to the amount of games we'll end up playing and the amount of injuries we'll end up with.
But of course the board won't front up the cash. Ollie only has £40m or so to spend and we need at least two midfielders as a matter of urgency, plus a decent number 10 to cover Lingard whilst he deals with his family issues. I don't think he should be playing at the moment tbh because his mind isn't in it.
The squad is without Fellaini and Herrera who the board haven't replaced and now without Pogba and McTominay, probably out for most of the rest of the season, at least 2 months each.
Pogba will leave in the Summer, we'll probably get £100m for him if we're lucky and Ollie will be able to use that on top of another £60m to buy players.
So next Summer we'll need 3 midfielders, a right winger and a striker. And maybe a right back if Ethan Laird doesn't break through to the first team. All for £160m lol
I've been against the journalist murdering Saudis buying the club but if they do so we'll actually have owners that are willing to spend the £400m or so that we'll be able to spend under FFP regulations and the club will have no debt (because the Glazers legally have to pay that off when they sell the club).
But then if they DO buy the club they'll probably sack Ollie and undo the work he's done with streamlining the youth development at the club.
Maybe the Glazers and the board will front up some decent cash this month? I bloody hope so!!!
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Yup, bit of a disaster. Again. :'(
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your right with most of what you said tbh.
Hopefully they give him a bit more now and he can get 2 players in rather than one. But i cant see it. And whats a betting the deal for a player is done on deadline day.
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I don't think we're going to sign ANYBODY this month. The last four transfer Windows we've had a net spend of £30m per window, and only signed players in two of the last four windows.
There's talk of United offering 45m quid plus Lingard for Maddison in the Mirror but that's probably a load of old bollocks. In the form he's been in this season Leicester won't go anywhere near him.
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haha no Jesse has been woeful, Nobody would want him.
Idont think there will be much done if anything at all. Wouldnt suprise me if something gets done deadline day and then that will be a panic buy to keep people happy.
Big game tonight for Arsenal. Up the Leeds :D
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Leeds looking good atm, Id be a little worried if i was a Arsenal fan.
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Bah! They ended up losing. I miss those days playing Leeds. For me personally they're a bigger rival than the red scouse gits. I bloody HATE Leeds. Don't ask lol ;D
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Asenal upped there game in the second half tbh. Deserved the win. Leeds messed up far too many chances.
Hope united can turn wolves over in the replay
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Not the way we've been playing, we'll probably get hammered ;D
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Team news for United:
Romero
Wan-Bissaka Lindelof Maguire Williams
Static Fred
Greenwood Mata James
Martial
No Rashford.
Bench: Grant, Jones, Dalot, Pereira, Lingard, Chongy, Rashford.
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Wolufs got a goal disallowed for handball. Was a foul on Maguire anyway.
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You know United are going places when Wolves field a full strength team against you in the fa cup ;D ;D
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Shite game so far, Ruddy has made a couple of decent saves and Romero has been pretty sharp too so far. It's quite a tight game but United haven't been clinical enough. Again.
0-0 at halftime.
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Loads of empty seats too! :o
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Am watching the second half with a delay so won't post again until fulltime innit ;D
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Rashford has aggravated his back injury, a bit daft of Ollie to have him on the bench let alone bring him on.
Ended up winning 1-0 at fulltime, goal from Mata who easily won the MOTM award.
I would have had more of the kids on the squad myself because if we win on Sunday we'll be edging closer to 4th place.
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we got through in the end mate lol
i tell you and i did call it didnt i Mata is playing well. Deserved goal and makes things happen. Im hoping he gets a nice run of games but knowing ole he wont.
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He can't play a run of games, he's too old.
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he can, i mean he should be fit enough if he isnt why is he even at the club. By run of games id like to see him complete 90 mins for 3 or 4 games. Hes by far our most creative midfielder atm and probably the only one who drives forward most times with the ball looking for one twos ect. Making things happen.
Interested to see what team he puts out today.Massive game as this is the only competition we have a chance of winning atm.
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6 changes from the side that got beat by Burnley:
Romero
Lindelof Jones Maguire
Dalot Matic Pereira Shaw
Lingard Martial Greenwood
So it looks like three at the back.
That pitch doesn't look too clever, we'll probably pick up more injuries here I think.
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Maguire puts us 0-1 up with a good strike helped by a slight deflection.
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pitch is awful lol. Nice to see thought that we can still play on such a bad pitch.
Great footwork and finish there from Dalot
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And Dalot with number two. Best couple of goals we've scored for a while. The scoreline flatters us a bit so far, Tranmere have played pretty well so far and have been the more dangerous side, although to be fair to United we have defended well.
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quality, far too easy. The shock on the crowd aha
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Yup, I'm surprised they haven't planted spuds there yet ;D
Maguire with an assist and FINALLY a goal for Lingard. Good finish too.
We've needed a win like this. Hopefully we'll score 5 or more.
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And Jones with number 4. Hopefully we'll see United continuing with this in the second half.
And now Martial makes it 0-5.
I want us to be ruthless all the way through this match. No mercy in the second half. We need to send a message.
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And that's halftime.
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Chongy and Fred on for Martial and Static.
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Greenwood gets number 6 with a penalty. Hit it with his right foot this time. I wonder when he decides which foot to take it with? Probably before the run up I would have thought ;D
Tranmere fans are still singing loud and proud, fair play to them.
6 shots on target, 6 goals and 6 different scorers.
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Tranmere are still going for it, they haven't let their heads drop.
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0-6 final score, disappointed that we didn't score more tbh but at least we didn't take our foot off the proverbial pedal.
All we've got to do now is stick three goals more past the Bitter Berties and I'll be happy ;D
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Team news for United against Derby:
Romero
Dalot Lindelof Bailly Shaw
Fred McTominay
Mata Fernandes Lingard
Ighalo
Bench: De Gea, Tuanzebe, Williams, Static, Pereira, Greenwood and Martial.
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Shaw put us 0-1 up earlier. The Roonster is looking VERY dangerous on free kicks.
United, as expected, have the most possession and we've had more shots on goal (10 vs 2) but we've only had 3 on target so far.
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Ighalo makes it 0-2 just before halftime 8)
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And that's the first half ending with United going in 0-2 up. An element of luck for both goals though.
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Ighalo got the third goal and now we're 0-3 up. 😁
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It finished 0-3 and that's us in the Quarter Final away at Norwich. We'll have to be favourites for a Semi Final place on paper, but this is a domestic Cup competition so anything can happen! 😯
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More points dropped by the Spuds again earlier. Hopefully Chelsea will drop points and we'll beat City and the Spuds during the next two Premiership games.
I'm SOOOOOOOOOOO pissed off that we didn't buy Fernandes in the Summer. I knew he'd be the perfect signing for us.
There's talk of Real Madras putting in a bid for De Gea in the Summer of 70m quid. Think we should get rid and bung in Dean Henderson as our number 1 keeper.
Also as much talk about Pogba staying as there is him leaving in the Summer. If we sign Sancho then I reckon Pogba will stay.
Ollie is slowly starting to build a decent side I think.
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FA Cup.
Is.
Back.
Quarter Finals starting on 27th June, Final on 1st August. 8) ;D 8)
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United fielding a side with 8 changes from the side that beat Sheffield United:
Romero
Dalot Bailly Maguire Shaw
Fred McTominay
Mata Fernandes Lingard
Ighalo
United with three shots on goal in the opening 20 minutes, Norwich haven't had any chances yet.
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0-0 at halftime and we've been awful. Absolutely no pace at all. I can see Ollie bringing on Rashford and/or James or Greenwood to replace Lingard and Mata who have both been useless.
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No changes at halftime. Better half than the first half.
And Ighalo puts us a goal up. Nice finish too. 😁
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Bollocks. 1-1. Nice goal from Cantwell, helped by a slight deflection 😭
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1-1 fulltime. Extra time next.
Norwich down to 10 men though.
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Maguire with what's hopefully the winner in Extra Time. Nice work from Pogba too. 😁
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Krul was the MOTM, Jenas has given it to Maguire.
That's United through to the Semis. A bit of a crap game to watch though.
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And that's now 14 games unbeaten in all competitions too. 😎😁😎
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So that's United, arse and Chelsea through to the Semis so far with Newcastle or City to go though later on tonight.
Ollie has a pretty good record against the big sides so we should have a good chance of winning the trophy. Our record in the FA Cup hasn't been great since Fergie retired so hopefully Ollie can win it.
So we're in the race for a Champions League place, in the Semis of the FA Cup and have a decent chance of winning the Europa League in August.
Not too shabby. 😎😁😎
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City are battering Newcastle so far and have gone a goal ahead. Looks like City the last side going in for the Semis. No surprise there tbh.
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United vs Chelsea
arse vs Newcastle or City
Ollie has a good record against Fat Frank so far so hopefully an easy route to the Final 😁😎
Probably looking at a United vs City Final I reckon, that's what wise money would be on anyway.
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Gayle missed a sitter for Newcastle and Sterling puts City 0-2 up. Has to be the end of the tie now.
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Going to be interesting to see what sort of sides both Ollie and Fat Frank put out tomorrow. I can't see either one fielding a full strength side with the top four race being so tight. Here's my prediction for United's line up:
Romero
Wan-Bissaka Bailly Maguire Williams
Fred McTominay
Fernandes
Lingard Igalo James
Although Ollie hasn't rested players too much, he DID rest a good few for the match against the Canaries in the last round so I'm expecting him to do the same tomorrow 😁
arse have just gone 1-0 up against the Berties! 😯
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arse are 2-0 up now. Looks like them in the Final, which is a bit inconvenient for us cos we seem to have a knack of beating City this season 😝😂😂😂
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Finished 2-0 and that's arsenal in the Final. We're due another FA Cup win, our record in the competition has been pretty poor over the years. Van Gaal won it in 2016 but before that we hadn't won it since 2004. 😲
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5 changes from the last Premier League match:
De Gea
Lindelof Bailly Maguire
Wan-Bissaka Fred Matic Williams
Fernandes
James Rashford
A much stronger side than I was expecting, and a different formation too. Pogba, Martial and Greenwood on the bench. 😁
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Chelsea the better side in the first 15 minutes. ☹
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Chelsea are all over us. Oldie needs to change something, we haven't had a shot on goal yet. 😲😭
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Funking hell, they're REALLY sticking the boot in to Fernandes 😲
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Bollocks. Clash of heads, both Bailly and Maguire down. That's the second knock on the head that Bailly has had.
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Bailly coming off on a stretcher. Hope he's okay. Or maybe not. He's on his feet now.
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Martial on for Bailly. Must be a switch to a back four.
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Bailly treated off the side of the pitch. And he is indeed being strapped into a stretcher, and he's in a neck brace.
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Bollocks. Martial is injured now. 😭
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Shite. 1-0 down just before halftime 😭☹😭😡🤬😡
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Aw ffs. A HUUUUUGE cock up from De Gea makes it 2-0 to Chelsea. That's us out and Chelsea in the Final I think. 🤬😡🤬
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And that's 3-0, game over.
A Maguire own goal.
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Penalty to United.
Fernandes puts it away.
3-1. Too little too late I think. Oh well, at least we got a consolation I guess. ☹
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3-1 final score, and Chelsea deserve to go through.
Congrats to jman and drags, hope Chelsea go on to win it cos I don't want arse to win the thing again 😂
Oh well, at least it didn't go to extra time, the lads look knackered. With Leicester losing today it isn't all bad news as long as we win on Wednesday and get a draw at least next Sunday. 😁😎
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Best team won, best manager won.
As long as he gets a top 4 place (and we should get 1 point from the last two games), Lampard has had a great first season.. lost Hazard, not been able to buy anybody.. and currently 3rd, final of fa cup and still in the QF of the champions league. Given the transfers we've made for next season, I'm expecting a serious title challenge.. although that defense has been our biggest downfall this season.. Christensen should not get anywhere near the squad IMO.
Given that OGS grossed a £130m loss this season on transfers.. its another failed season for them.. don't worry though, you've won the "Best team since Bruno joined" trophy ;D ;D
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There's absolutely no chance of you challenging for the title with the state that your defence is in. If United sign Sancho we've got more chance of challenging for the title because we've had a defence capable of challenging for the title since Fergie retired. But even then, we still need more squad depth so that we have better options coming on from the bench just in case Fernandes and Pogba get injured at the same time.
Your lot have conceded 49 goals so far this season and there's still another 2 games to play, and you haven't got a top four place yet so don't count those chickens just yet. You've got a couple of difficult games coming up.
The top four race is far from over, Chelsea and United are the favourites to get a top four place but there are still two games to play.
And if we get top four and win the Europa League I'd say that's a successful season for Ollie.
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Actually now that I've been thinking about it, even if we don't get a top four place and don't win the Europa League it will STILL be a successful season for Ollie.
Have I taken leave of my senses? Nope. It would be a successful season because he's got Manchester United playing like Manchester United again. 😎😁😎
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Looks like Ollie is giving Wan-Bissaka a rest:
De Gea
Fosu-Mensah Lindelof Maguire Williams
Matic Pogba
Fernandes
Greenwood Martial Rashford
Not sure which way around those full backs will be as they can both play either side.
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It's pretty much all United inside this first 30 minutes. Only 2 attempts on target though. West Ham are looking difficult to break down at the moment.
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A STUPID penalty given away by Pogba. Don't know WHAT he was thinking. United 0-1 down just before halftime 😡🤬😡😭
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1-1 now, equaliser from Greenwood 😁
Missed the goal cos the stream died on me.
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1-1 final score which puts us on even points with Chelsea and in 3rd place on GD, with Chelsea playing their game in hand at 8:15pm against the red scouse gits tonight.
Means that as long as we don't lose against Leicester we're guaranteed a top four place.
Poor performance from United though, particularly from Fernandes.
Still, not a disaster.
It's still possible for Chelsea to end up in 5th place too, if they get beat by Liverpool and Wolves and Leicester beat us 😲
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FA Cup Final about to start.
Should in theory be plenty of goals because both sides are completely shite at the back. 😂😂😂😂
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Chelsea go a goal ahead after 5 minutes 😲😂
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1-1 now 😂
28 minutes gone and two goals already. I should have put a goals bet on! 😲
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Chelsea 2-1 down now and down to 10 men. That was NEVER a second yellow card 😲😂😂😂
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arse ended up winning 2-1, am surprised that there weren't more goals.
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Another win for arse earlier, they beat Newcastle 2-0 AET.
United 1-0 up against Watford at the moment with 26 minutes gone, goal from McTominay. 😎😁😎
United in full control of the game with the following line up:
Henderson
Williams Bailly Tuanzebe Telles
McTominay van de Beek
Lingard Mata James
Greenwood
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Bailly off injured and replaced by Maguire just before halftime. Not sure what caused it cos my stream went tits up. He and Tuanzebe were both looking pretty good together too.
Hope he's not going to be out for long because he's the best partner for Maguire I think. ☹
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5 changes for United vs Liverpool:
Henderson
Wan-Bissaka Lindelof Maguire Shaw
McTominay Pogba
Greenwood van de Beek Rashford
Cavani
😎😁😎
Won't be posting updates cos I'm watching on my VR headset 😎
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1-1 at halftime and a fair score at this point I think. The red scouse gits went 0-1 up and Greenwood got the equaliser. Our finishing hasn't been good enough again unfortunately. 7 attempts on goal and 2 on target, scousers have had 5 and 2 on target.
Entertaining match so far though.
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What a great match to watch! United ended up winning 3-2 after 90 minutes of entertaining football.
2 goals for Salah, 1 goal and 1 assist for Rashford, 1 goal and 1 assist for Greenwood and Brunooooooo with the winner from a free kick.
So that's us through to the next round and the bin dippers are out 😎😁😎
That's 16 goals for Brunooooooo now. Has to be one of if not the best player in the world at the moment.
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Team news for United:
Henderson
Wan-Bissaka Lindelof Maguire Telles
Matic Fred
Greenwood van de Beek Rashford
Martial
😎
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0 - 0 at halftime, it's pretty much all United so far. If it wasn't for a great save from Fabianski we'd be a goal up. They've also done really well with blocking our shots too.
Think Moyes will make some changes either during the break or early in the second half. They're not offering much going forward so far.
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We ended up winning 1-0 AET, goal from McTominay and a snazzy assist from Rashford. The game itself was a snorefest because United seemed to be more concerned about not conceding than scoring. We livened up AET when Ollie stopped us playing so deep.
So that's us through to the Quarter Finals 😎😁😎
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Well that's us out of the FA Cup. Knocked out on pens by Boro in the 4th Round after we wasted a shitload of chances, Ronnie missed a penalty and Boro got a dodgy decision with a handball for the equaliser. Gotta feel for Elanga who missed the pen in sudden death but we should have put that game to bed in the first half. Bollocks!!! >:( >:( >:(
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No trophies for the 5th season in a row, shame.. ;D
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We're still in the Champions League. Season isn't over yet. 😉😝😂
The way that the Glazers are systematically ruining this club from the inside out since they first took over I can see us going at least another 5 years without winning another trophy though. 🤬😡🤬
I think we might see more fan protests starting if we get knocked out of the Champions League too.
I also think that Rangnick will quit too and not even bother with the consultancy role. He's not going to recommend a manager whilst the board are determined not to make sensible decisions and are interfering with team selections.
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So that's the Berties in the FA Cup Final and United and Brighton playing the second Semi Final tomorrow.
With the injuries that we've got, especially at the back, I can't see us making it to the Final let alone beating City ☹ï¸😭☹ï¸
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Luckily, Shaw was fit, so we had Shaw and Lindelof playing in the center of defence.
Ended up 0-0 and, for once, United actually won a penalty shootout 😲
Hopefully Varane is going to be back for the Final, but if not then Shaw and Lindelof is the obvious pair to play in the Final.
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2-1.....Crap Final but the best team won.
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Yup. Rangnick was right when he said we needed open heart surgery.
Things might have been different if the ball had gone in for a second equaliser towards the end of the second half instead of hitting the woodwork twice, but that's football I guess.
When you lose Cavani and Ronnie and replace them with the Horse Man, ending up in 3rd place and winning one trophy is a great achievement tbh.
We needed a goal and brought on McTominay and the Horse Man. Says it all really. ☹ï¸
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We needed a goal and brought on McTominay and the Horse Man. Says it all really. ☹ï¸
Oh well....must feel so bad after spending billions under those terrible Glazers. I'm sure the new owners will baby your ego's better. ;D
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The problem isn't the money they've spent. The problem is with ghe unqualified people they have in the top jobs. They gave the top jobs to the merchant bankers that made their dodgy buyout (which is now illegal after it happened to United) possible. They know NOTHING about football, they can't negotiate to save their lives.
They paid MORE than Fellaini's release clause ffs 😲😂😲
They can't concentrate on more than one signing at a time.
They could have signed Antony for £40-50m if they had moved quicker and for some strange reason decided to give him 10 x the wage he was on at Ajax. 😲😲😲
The Glazers have landed the club almost £1bn in debt, and through debt servicing payments, dividends and private jet flights to Finals they've taken £2bn OUT of the club. And that's just the money that we KNOW ABOUT!!! 😲😡🤬😡
They've left Old Trafford and Carrington to literally rot during the last 18 years, the roof is leaking, the toilets are leaking piss and shit all over the place and the Women's team don't even have proper toilets, they have to use portaloos 😲
If this club had been run responsibly during the last 18 years, Old Trafford would still be one of the best stadiums in the country, we wouldn't be in debt and the club would have so much income coming in that we'd have NO problems AT ALL with FFP Regulations.
If the Rat 🐀 is successful with his bid, we're still going to have the Glazers in the club, and because he needs to borrow to buy the club in the first place we're still going to have that debt. And where's he going to get the money from to either expand the stadium or build a new one? And look at the mess that he's made of Nice. They were getting Champions League football 5 out of the last 6 seasons before he bought them, and now they can't get Champions League football to save their lives.
Jassim is the ONLY option available to ensure a good future for the club. He has the money available to repair the damage that the Glazers have done. If the Rat 🐀 buys us, we're pretty much fucked. Not only will he run the club into the ground like he has done at Nice, but Qatar will buy another Premier League side such as Spurs, West Ham or the red scouse gits. And that will leave that club that gets bought (probably with a different front man), City, Chelsea and Newcastle getting Champions League football every season. The only time that we get Champions League football is if we win the Europa League every now and then.
The Rat 🐀 buying United is going to be a DISASTER.
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Exactly how Ratcliffe's bid will be a disaster for Manchester United is impossible to fathom for clubs with no money to work out. It's still a bid that will progress your franchise by using money generated with sponsors, much as it is now. You just want multi-billionaire ownership like your neighbours so you can be just like them! But let's not forget they buy success don't they? Manchester United fans are the biggest hypocrites in English football.
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I'm basing the Rat 🐀 being a disaster based on several things:
1) He made a complete mess of Nice in a piss poor league. They went from regularly getting to Champions League football to hardly getting it at all.
2) He's said that he isn't clearing the debt.
3) He's having to borrow money to buy the club in the first place, where's he going to find the money to sort out the 18 years of neglect of Old Trafford and Carrington?
4) He's not only going to be keeping Joel and Avram Glazer at the club, but the other four siblings as well. Paying them off as time goes on. Where's he getting the money to do this?
5) He, the Glazers and the other 31% of shareholders are going to have legal issues to sort out, because the Glazers have changed the rules. Previous to this change, Class B shares (the ones with voting rights) can only be exchanged between members of the Glazer family. If someone buys them from them that isnt a member of the family, they get converted into Class A shares. The Rat 🐀 is buying Class B shares to gain control of the club, leaving the 6 siblings with around 20% between them.
Qatar is the ONLY option for any sane United fan. According to Xavi, who got to know Jassim well whilst working over there for 6 years, Jassim knows his onions when it comes to football. He's not going to have an Ineos cycling specialist in charge of football matters at United. He'll pay for the best in the business to do what needs doing.
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All you ever talk about is money! ;D Mannchester United is the biggest sham in English football history!
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All you ever talk about is money! ;D Mannchester United is the biggest sham in English football history!
That's because the Glazers have rinsed the club of all it once had. £1bn in debt, £2bn taken out of the club. If Jassim buys the club, that damage, along with the neglect of Old Trafford and Carrington, can be fixed.
If the Rat 🐀 buys the club, we're fucked. He hasn't got the money to buy the club in the first place, thankfully he's prevented doing what the Glazers did 18 years ago and he and/or Ineos are going to end up with THAT debt. But we're still going to end up with the almost £1bn that the Glazers have saddled us with, over £200m of that is due to be paid on 30th this month. 😲 I'd put good money on that being the reason why they're selling the club in the first place, that and because they won't be able to take their dividends this year because there's not enough money left. 😡🤬😡
We're going to hopefully find out that Jassim is buying the club during these next few days, but of course there'll be other clubs complaining about it just because it's United. Chelsea, City and Newcastle having mega rich owners is fine, but United? Expect PLENTY of objections lol 😲😂😂😂
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So a billion pounds of debt? Any other club would face sanctions for less. Manchester United however have a divine right to operate any way they see fit. Even today they have a transfer bid for Mason Mount turned down by Chelsea. How were they supposed to pay the 40 million offer if the Glazers have supposedly ruined your club financially? You say the Glazers have rinsed the club, but you forget they have also financed massive transfers and wages in their time. You say fans of other clubs will be critical of Manchester United if the Jassim bid wins.....too bloody right they will!!! Newcastle, Chelsea and Manchester City had to find a way to compete with your spending, now they have with foreign investment, you lot pull the FFP card and call them financial cheats because you finally have competition!
Manchester United fans are hypocrites who can't accept any other clubs success. You will hopefully get the owners you deserve.
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Every club is in debt thanks to the way transfers are mostly done. So your sanctions claim is nonsense.
Those debts are being SERVICED.
Why do you think the Glazers are leaving? Because £230m of that debt needs to be paid by 30th June. And they don't fancy paying it.
And yes, United HAVE spent A LOT of money. But I've already covered that above. Because the likes of Woodward, Judge, Arnold and Murtough were the merchant bankers that made their dodgy buyout possible, the Glazers gave them the top jobs at the club despite not being remotely qualified to do them.
United have spent over a billion quid, but thanks to these clowns knowing nothing about football transfers and contracts, they've spent WAY more than they should have done. I've given examples of this, too. Anyone decently qualified for the jobs would have spent HALF as much, our wage bill would probably be at least two thirds what it is right now and our revenue from sponsors alone would be MUCH higher.
United should be one of the few clubs that shouldn't have ANY concerns about FFP Regulations but thanks to godawful mismanagement over the last 18 years we were forced to bring in Eriksen, who's legs have clearly gone, on a free and the Horse Man, who only scored 2 goals for United last season, on loan in January when our injury-ravaged side was desperate for players.
I'm 70% certain that the Glazers will go for Jassim, mainly because they're going to be getting the money in one go and they won't lose money from the second payment of the Rat 🐀 due to inflation. Plus there are going to be MAJOR legal issues with the Rat's 🐀 bid.
We'll have to wait and see I guess.
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You really don't get it do you Harv? When your big mate Jassim takes over and throws his dirty cash to make your club glorious again, does that actually make you feel your club has achieved something? And if it does, does that mean you Manchester United fans will accept the achievements of other clubs who did the same too? I really doubt it will.....but i bet you'll all say your the biggest club on earth again.
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We're still one of the three biggest clubs in the world right now. We've just had poor and irresponsible owners for the last 18 years.
If the club had been run well, if the Glazers had put money INTO the club rather than taking it out, if they had expanded Old Trafford to a capacity of 100,000 or so, if they had the best in the business doing our transfer and contract negotiations and done better on the commercial side of things with sponsorship deals, then we wouldn't need anyone to buy us out.
Despite this mismanagement of the club we've still had a bit of success here and there, plenty of Wembley appearances and a few trophies.
And no, I won't respect the trophies that the likes of City, Chelsea and Newcastle have won or will win, because previous to those clubs being bought they were NOTHING clubs. They were either mid-table or relegation fodder clubs.
United have won several trophies since Fergie retired and will continue to do so no matter who owns the club.
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And no, I won't respect the trophies that the likes of City, Chelsea and Newcastle have won or will win, because previous to those clubs being bought they were NOTHING clubs. They were either mid-table or relegation fodder clubs.
United have won several trophies since Fergie retired and will continue to do so no matter who owns the club.
Wow....Manchester United ignorance right there! Football wasn't invented until 1992 ;D ;D ;D ;D
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And no, I won't respect the trophies that the likes of City, Chelsea and Newcastle have won or will win, because previous to those clubs being bought they were NOTHING clubs. They were either mid-table or relegation fodder clubs.
United have won several trophies since Fergie retired and will continue to do so no matter who owns the club.
Wow....Manchester United ignorance right there! Football wasn't invented until 1992 ;D ;D ;D ;D
They weren't any great shakes before 92 either. 😉
Newcastle have won 3 top division titles in the 1900s, Chelsea had only won one top league title before Abramovic bought them, and that was in 1955. As for the Berties, they've ALWAYS been in United's shadow. They won their first top league title in 1937, then another in 68. After being bought out by an Arab state they won their third top league title in 2012.
This isn't Man United arrogance at all. NONE of those clubs were 'big clubs' until they were bought out by mega rich owners. United is one of the three biggest clubs in world football BEFORE they're being bought by mega rich owners. And if the club was being run by responsible owners we'd have won a Premier League title or two after Fergie retired.
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And no, I won't respect the trophies that the likes of City, Chelsea and Newcastle have won or will win, because previous to those clubs being bought they were NOTHING clubs. They were either mid-table or relegation fodder clubs.
United have won several trophies since Fergie retired and will continue to do so no matter who owns the club.
Wow....Manchester United ignorance right there! Football wasn't invented until 1992 ;D ;D ;D ;D
They weren't any great shakes before 92 either. 😉
Newcastle have won 3 top division titles in the 1900s, Chelsea had only won one top league title before Abramovic bought them, and that was in 1955. As for the Berties, they've ALWAYS been in United's shadow. They won their first top league title in 1937, then another in 68. After being bought out by an Arab state they won their third top league title in 2012.
This isn't Man United arrogance at all. NONE of those clubs were 'big clubs' until they were bought out by mega rich owners. United is one of the three biggest clubs in world football BEFORE they're being bought by mega rich owners. And if the club was being run by responsible owners we'd have won a Premier League title or two after Fergie retired.
Manchester United were not any great shakes before 1992 either Harv. I'm old enough to remember a team of your superstars relegated in 1974! Your lot got lucky winning the first PL when Sky Sports threw TV money around. That money gave your lot a head start over every other club in England to invest in transfers. Fergie wasn't a genius tactically, he just spent a shit load and spent wisely until other clubs could catch up financially. If he was such a great manager, why couldn't he dominate in Europe also?
Would you say other clubs like Aston Villa, Sheffield Wednesday, Huddersfield Town, Arsenal, Liverpool etc, etc, etc, would not deserve future glory if they sold out the way you want your club to also? You look at history through rose tinted glasses and think you deserve success now because you forget how lucky that success was earned in the past with a lack of competition.
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Oh, And by the way i didn't say Arrogance....i said Ignorance. Ignorance United
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And no, I won't respect the trophies that the likes of City, Chelsea and Newcastle have won or will win, because previous to those clubs being bought they were NOTHING clubs. They were either mid-table or relegation fodder clubs.
United have won several trophies since Fergie retired and will continue to do so no matter who owns the club.
Wow....Manchester United ignorance right there! Football wasn't invented until 1992 ;D ;D ;D ;D
They weren't any great shakes before 92 either. 😉
Newcastle have won 3 top division titles in the 1900s, Chelsea had only won one top league title before Abramovic bought them, and that was in 1955. As for the Berties, they've ALWAYS been in United's shadow. They won their first top league title in 1937, then another in 68. After being bought out by an Arab state they won their third top league title in 2012.
This isn't Man United arrogance at all. NONE of those clubs were 'big clubs' until they were bought out by mega rich owners. United is one of the three biggest clubs in world football BEFORE they're being bought by mega rich owners. And if the club was being run by responsible owners we'd have won a Premier League title or two after Fergie retired.
Manchester United were not any great shakes before 1992 either Harv. I'm old enough to remember a team of your superstars relegated in 1974! Your lot got lucky winning the first PL when Sky Sports threw TV money around. That money gave your lot a head start over every other club in England to invest in transfers. Fergie wasn't a genius tactically, he just spent a shit load and spent wisely until other clubs could catch up financially. If he was such a great manager, why couldn't he dominate in Europe also?
Would you say other clubs like Aston Villa, Sheffield Wednesday, Huddersfield Town, Arsenal, Liverpool etc, etc, etc, would not deserve future glory if they sold out the way you want your club to also? You look at history through rose tinted glasses and think you deserve success now because you forget how lucky that success was earned in the past with a lack of competition.
United were still winning trophies in the 70s and 80s, when we were shite and the red scouse gits were dominating football.
As for Fergie and Europe, his hands were tied thanks to the five foreigners rule in the 90s that stopped two of his best sides (the 94 and 96 Double winning sides) from playing full strength in Europe. Those two sides were BETTER than the 99 Treble winning side.
Fergie has to go down as the best football manager of all time because he not only had Aberdeen winning the Sweaty Sock top division, but also won the European Cup Winner's Cup, beating Real Madrid in the Final and also knocking out Barcelona, I think, on the way there.
United didn't spend that much more than they did previous to winning the Premier League because, again, thanks to our ridiculously HUGE fanbase, we've ALWAYS had plenty of money to spend. Big Ron in particular spent a fortune on transfers, we didn't just start spending after we won the first Premier League title.
Now it COULD be said that we were lucky with the Class of 92, but I'd say that 'luck' was all down to a great scouting network set up by Fergie's brother, sometimes you truly do MAKE your own luck.
And those other clubs you've mentioned will all 'sell out' at some point. This is the way that English football has gone since Abramovic first bought Chelsea years ago. In another 20 years or so, all Premier League clubs will have mega rich owners.