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Title: Dodgy Results
Post by: captain_kush on February 26, 2022, 03:41:47 PM
Feel free to post any match reports which you think went against your way.

I Will try to give explanations if there is any as to why the result went that way.

I'll start with the first one;

http://smokey2.sundayleague.com/cgi-bin/sundayleague/match.pl?fixtureid=11079704

I can not explain this result, guess just being unlucky.... but shambolic to concede a goal when up in tactics given the current strength of my team.
Anyone have any ideas?
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: Brendan Rodgers on February 26, 2022, 05:29:50 PM
I had the boys on a rigorous training regime. They showed plenty of character and aggression to win.
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: spiteri on February 26, 2022, 06:47:39 PM
Looks an unlucky result Kush, replicate those tactics another 10 times and you'd take the lead most probably. Your midfield is strong there, but defence lacking a little. I always find a disadvantage in longball conditions too.
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: captain_kush on February 26, 2022, 07:29:56 PM
I had the boys on a rigorous training regime. They showed plenty of character and aggression to win.

You might have to send me your training regime haha!

Looks an unlucky result Kush, replicate those tactics another 10 times and you'd take the lead most probably. Your midfield is strong there, but defence lacking a little. I always find a disadvantage in longball conditions too.

I agree Antony, My LB is injured so had to put on a weak defender to cover but to still concede when I'm up on tactics is just weird.

Yesterday I had 2 main defenders out and had to play with an injured striker against Jellybellies and I somehow managed to score an equaliser on equal tactics but couldn't score in the 1st half when I had the tactical advantage.

I guess we learn something new everyday :D
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: harry on March 13, 2022, 10:35:07 PM
http://smokey2.sundayleague.com/cgi-bin/sundayleague/match.pl?fixtureid=11081282

was it just because pansy vs. psycho?

Shots only 3 - 1

11 vs. 5 players most time!

Unbelievable!  :o
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: Nijinsky on March 13, 2022, 11:56:37 PM
http://smokey2.sundayleague.com/cgi-bin/sundayleague/match.pl?fixtureid=11081282

was it just because pansy vs. psycho?

Shots only 3 - 1

11 vs. 5 players most time!

Unbelievable!  :o
It was abandoned after 18mins :)
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: Cove on March 14, 2022, 08:56:11 AM
http://smokey2.sundayleague.com/cgi-bin/sundayleague/match.pl?fixtureid=11081282

was it just because pansy vs. psycho?

Shots only 3 - 1

11 vs. 5 players most time!

Unbelievable!  :o
It was abandoned after 18mins :)


 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: captain_kush on March 14, 2022, 10:05:40 AM
Yep as Nij said, game got abandoned or you would have scored a heck of a lot more goals  :D
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: harry on March 15, 2022, 12:19:42 PM
You're right - sometimes it can help to read the report ...  ::)
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: Gull on April 19, 2022, 03:32:02 PM
http://smokey2.sundayleague.com/cgi-bin/sundayleague/match.pl?fixtureid=11150329

Harsh defeat?
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: Denmark_14 on April 19, 2022, 10:22:49 PM
100% harsh, even had better Aggression!
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: captain_kush on April 20, 2022, 11:34:43 PM
http://smokey2.sundayleague.com/cgi-bin/sundayleague/match.pl?fixtureid=11150329

Harsh defeat?

A bit harsh I would say yes, it was pretty equal all game in terms of advanced tactics and beckham does have a good side.

Perhaps that injury in the 74th minute triggered an advantage to the home side as you really only had one fit defender playing the last 15.
Sometimes there isn't always an aggression advantage.
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: Gull on April 21, 2022, 09:02:38 AM
I'd agree with that, thanks Kush  8)
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: Walpster on April 27, 2022, 03:42:29 PM
How can I be attacking against their defensive the whole game and not win?

http://smokey2.sundayleague.com/cgi-bin/sundayleague/match.pl?fixtureid=11153441


And attacking against their defensive from 30 mins and not at least grab a goal back?

http://smokey2.sundayleague.com/cgi-bin/sundayleague/match.pl?fixtureid=11152761
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: captain_kush on April 27, 2022, 06:22:07 PM
How can I be attacking against their defensive the whole game and not win?

http://smokey2.sundayleague.com/cgi-bin/sundayleague/match.pl?fixtureid=11153441


And attacking against their defensive from 30 mins and not at least grab a goal back?

http://smokey2.sundayleague.com/cgi-bin/sundayleague/match.pl?fixtureid=11152761

First result is an absolute scam in my opinion. Saiyan have a pretty good team but you should have scored atleast 1.
Only thing I would say is your aggression didn't match and I would have personally gone with normal aggression by just looking at the ref and weather but ofcourse that is not a valid excuse for losing given you had 90mins tactical advantage.

Second result could be established as harsh yes but I would have opted to play continental style rather than passing with Pieman as ref.
Experimental 11 are a very strong team at the moment and the difference of strength is probably why the result turned out that way. I think in a different match condition such as rain/snow and using longball, you would have had a better chance given the advantage in tactics.
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: RParker9 on April 27, 2022, 06:33:53 PM
I feel your pain mate. I got the same -

http://smokey2.sundayleague.com/cgi-bin/sundayleague/match.pl?fixtureid=11152617

I just put it down to they're better than me. Haha
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: Gull on April 27, 2022, 07:59:30 PM
How can I be attacking against their defensive the whole game and not win?

http://smokey2.sundayleague.com/cgi-bin/sundayleague/match.pl?fixtureid=11153441

Knew it the oppo would have a MOM GK before I clicked it. Really harsh, but I have a theory that a MOM GK significantly affects results.
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: Walpster on April 27, 2022, 08:47:46 PM
I feel your pain mate. I got the same -

http://smokey2.sundayleague.com/cgi-bin/sundayleague/match.pl?fixtureid=11152617

I just put it down to they're better than me. Haha


That’s mad haha! And your goalkeeper was MOM too  ;D
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: Walpster on April 27, 2022, 08:50:37 PM
How can I be attacking against their defensive the whole game and not win?

http://smokey2.sundayleague.com/cgi-bin/sundayleague/match.pl?fixtureid=11153441

Knew it the oppo would have a MOM GK before I clicked it. Really harsh, but I have a theory that a MOM GK significantly affects results.

Yeah I agree, it’s just annoying sometimes as this game is meant to be tactical, try work out the other opponents strategy etc, then get stung on some results when you spend time trying to develop ways to have the advantage on tactics haha, what’s the point of having att beats def, counter beats attack etc, if they don’t seriously come in to play! Crazy stuff! But, it is what is is I suppose lol
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: Denmark_14 on April 27, 2022, 11:18:40 PM
http://smokey2.sundayleague.com/cgi-bin/sundayleague/match.pl?fixtureid=11152936

Couldn’t believe this one 😂
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: Walpster on April 28, 2022, 07:13:12 AM
How can I be attacking against their defensive the whole game and not win?

http://smokey2.sundayleague.com/cgi-bin/sundayleague/match.pl?fixtureid=11153441


And attacking against their defensive from 30 mins and not at least grab a goal back?

http://smokey2.sundayleague.com/cgi-bin/sundayleague/match.pl?fixtureid=11152761

First result is an absolute scam in my opinion. Saiyan have a pretty good team but you should have scored atleast 1.
Only thing I would say is your aggression didn't match and I would have personally gone with normal aggression by just looking at the ref and weather but ofcourse that is not a valid excuse for losing given you had 90mins tactical advantage.

Second result could be established as harsh yes but I would have opted to play continental style rather than passing with Pieman as ref.
Experimental 11 are a very strong team at the moment and the difference of strength is probably why the result turned out that way. I think in a different match condition such as rain/snow and using longball, you would have had a better chance given the advantage in tactics.

Thanks Kush
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: beckham on June 02, 2022, 09:37:42 PM
http://smokey2.sundayleague.com/cgi-bin/sundayleague/match.pl?fixtureid=11218663

What happened here, where were Aston Villains's players at? Looks like my team played against no one and only scored 28 goals. This is unfair, to be honest. It should be at least 90-0  :D :D

In all seriousness, this must be just an unfortunate bug..
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: Banger on June 02, 2022, 11:27:07 PM
WTF!! Thats a pretty sizable bug!
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: captain_kush on June 03, 2022, 02:27:10 AM
http://smokey2.sundayleague.com/cgi-bin/sundayleague/match.pl?fixtureid=11218663

What happened here, where were Aston Villains's players at? Looks like my team played against no one and only scored 28 goals. This is unfair, to be honest. It should be at least 90-0  :D :D

In all seriousness, this must be just an unfortunate bug..

wow that is insane, I have never seen this before.
Deca's players didn't show up but he had 6 shots and 30% possession and also beckham suffered 3 injuries.

I really don't know what to say about this ....
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: Aaron on June 03, 2022, 03:07:42 AM
32 fouls with no players is impressive  ;D
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: deca on June 03, 2022, 10:45:57 AM
 :) what happened here LOL

Cheers

Deca
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: deca on June 03, 2022, 10:49:35 AM
When I seen the initial result I assumed I'd played the wrong boots, or substituted the wrong players, didn't realise my team had gone AWOL :-)

they probably went for an afternoon booze up to celebrate the Queens Jubilee :-)

But like Kush, never seen this happen, before
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: Brendan Rodgers on June 03, 2022, 10:57:32 AM
Looks like the manager has lost the dressing room, the players are out on the piss
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: spiteri on June 03, 2022, 12:35:10 PM
Very strange indeed. Has anyone ever noticed a fixture with other numbers of players loading between the 11 or 0 in Deca's case?

Sometimes I feel like players all turn up but play like they are not there. Anecdotally from observing games when a strong team is a man or 2 down they can hold a stalemate with the tactical advantage, only to concede within a few minutes when the tactical advantage disappears. I've also observed this in games where there is no numerical disadvantage, where a strong team cant score with long periods of tactical advantage, only to concede almost immediately when the tactical advantage swiches, leaving me wondering whether all 11 players were truly present in the match engine.
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: Aaron on June 08, 2022, 02:52:46 AM
This one makes no sense either  ::)

http://smokey2.sundayleague.com/cgi-bin/sundayleague/match.pl?fixtureid=11220311

Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: captain_kush on June 10, 2022, 03:13:44 PM
Very strange indeed. Has anyone ever noticed a fixture with other numbers of players loading between the 11 or 0 in Deca's case?

Sometimes I feel like players all turn up but play like they are not there. Anecdotally from observing games when a strong team is a man or 2 down they can hold a stalemate with the tactical advantage, only to concede within a few minutes when the tactical advantage disappears. I've also observed this in games where there is no numerical disadvantage, where a strong team cant score with long periods of tactical advantage, only to concede almost immediately when the tactical advantage swiches, leaving me wondering whether all 11 players were truly present in the match engine.

I've noticed that when you are in up in tactics for a considerable amount of time and then tactics are changed from both sides and they are the same, the team with the original advantage (up in tactics) would score a goal straight away.
To give an example yesterday in my division match with my Gelatos I was up 45 mins in the first half but couldn't score. I then switched to def and opponent switch to attacking. If I had stayed at attacking I am 99% sure I would have scored a goal on the 45th or 46th minute even though we would have been on the same tactics and there was no advantage at that specific time.
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: touchnplay on June 24, 2022, 03:58:07 PM
http://smokey2.sundayleague.com/cgi-bin/sundayleague/match.pl?fixtureid=11221843

Don't know how I lost this 2-0

I genuinely can't ever seem to beat Ryan's King Kennys army team even with tactical advantage I don't even think I've scored against his team in about 10 games
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: Denmark_14 on June 24, 2022, 04:09:21 PM
👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: touchnplay on June 24, 2022, 04:28:37 PM
I will just put it down to he is a bogey team and why my subs are coming on after 10 minutes means something ain't right
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: RParker9 on June 24, 2022, 04:36:11 PM
Sorry man. I didn't deserve that one. My team is weird I have days where I lose all my games when I don't deserve to and then days where I win despite not deserving it. Its really frustrating.
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: touchnplay on June 24, 2022, 04:48:36 PM
No problem mate it happens guess what,  got you tomorrow as well so your definitely getting one win 👍

It's like spurs Chelsea away you turn up but don't expect anything lol
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: iwopp on June 24, 2022, 06:08:51 PM
Big advantage with gelling if they played in the Champs Shield last night
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: touchnplay on June 25, 2022, 03:25:28 PM
No problem mate it happens guess what,  got you tomorrow as well so your definitely getting one win 👍

It's like spurs Chelsea away you turn up but don't expect anything lol


Another game another loss for me, still cant score, but in the context of this game I've lost 1-0 totally deserved in fact should have been more didn't have a keeper with gelling yet yesterday I lose 2-0 with tactical advantage it's really interesting.
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: cha4zz on July 01, 2022, 03:13:48 PM
http://smokey2.sundayleague.com/cgi-bin/sundayleague/match.pl?fixtureid=11289297

Anyone able to explain how I lose this 2-0 against a weaker side with less TA?
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: FreddyJnr on July 01, 2022, 06:39:43 PM
http://smokey2.sundayleague.com/cgi-bin/sundayleague/match.pl?fixtureid=11289297

Anyone able to explain how I lose this 2-0 against a weaker side with less TA?

Hey chaz,

sorry - that was me.  I've had a few very lucky results already this season against clearly better teams.  I'm not sure what's going on.

can i ask what TA is?

Freddy
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: touchnplay on July 01, 2022, 08:57:46 PM
TA is short for tactical advantage  :)
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: cha4zz on July 01, 2022, 10:12:02 PM
No probs Freddy, not your fault! Just curious if I was missing something from the report.
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: Gull on July 02, 2022, 10:12:19 AM
That's a very strange one Chazz - the only thing I can add is:

Despite the stronger overall XI stats (pretty much down to your defence being a lot stronger) West Town Utd actually had the higher average stats in the midfield [740 vs 715] area, with no difference between the teams in the striking [694 vs 694] department - perhaps their attacking midifelders were the difference on the day? The only other thing worth mentioning was as they opted for longball so do the heading stats come into play? The average heading stats of West Town Utd [87] were slightly higher than yours [84].

Despite the above I can't see how this would be anywhere near enough to contribute to West Town Utd winning 2-0 with only 6% TA! With your 65% TA to come away with a loss is extremely harsh.


Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: FreddyJnr on July 02, 2022, 05:23:13 PM

Despite the above I can't see how this would be anywhere near enough to contribute to West Town Utd winning 2-0 with only 6% TA! With your 65% TA to come away with a loss is extremely harsh.

Aplogies for the noob questions guys..

but how is TA calculated?  is there somewhere you can see these figures?
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: Banger on July 02, 2022, 07:08:48 PM
TA simpily means-

Def beats Counter Attack
Counter Attack beats Attack
Attack beats Def

These are the standard rules, but how much they come into play depends on the formation each team is playing

Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: Walpster on July 03, 2022, 02:30:46 PM

How do you work out the stats mate?

The 694 v 694 etc?



That's a very strange one Chazz - the only thing I can add is:

Despite the stronger overall XI stats (pretty much down to your defence being a lot stronger) West Town Utd actually had the higher average stats in the midfield [740 vs 715] area, with no difference between the teams in the striking [694 vs 694] department - perhaps their attacking midifelders were the difference on the day? The only other thing worth mentioning was as they opted for longball so do the heading stats come into play? The average heading stats of West Town Utd [87] were slightly higher than yours [84].

Despite the above I can't see how this would be anywhere near enough to contribute to West Town Utd winning 2-0 with only 6% TA! With your 65% TA to come away with a loss is extremely harsh.
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: Gull on July 03, 2022, 04:25:34 PM
Just copied and pasted both teams attributes into Excel and filtered the starting XI.
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: Gull on July 03, 2022, 04:33:11 PM
TA simpily means-

Def beats Counter Attack
Counter Attack beats Attack
Attack beats Def

These are the standard rules, but how much they come into play depends on the formation each team is playing

......and if a match contradicts the above then it will end up on this thread ;D

The more you win on tactics the more chance you win the game, although this thread exists because it doesn't always work out like that.

The TA % figure was how much of the game each side were "winning on tactics".
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: nathan197 on July 06, 2022, 07:47:45 PM
http://smokey2.sundayleague.com/cgi-bin/sundayleague/match.pl?fixtureid=11222789


I have the TA for the full 90 minutes and drew 2-2. Just deflating.
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: cha4zz on July 06, 2022, 08:30:33 PM
It's just team strength unfortunately - Kitsunegari have much higher attributes and it means that you're really unlikely to ever beat them. Much like a team from the conference are unlikely to beat a prem side, even if they tactically get it spot on.

It'll change by the time the players are SWC 2 or 3 but I understand it's frustrating.
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: Zeusfaber on July 06, 2022, 10:54:42 PM
http://smokey2.sundayleague.com/cgi-bin/sundayleague/match.pl?fixtureid=11222789


I have the TA for the full 90 minutes and drew 2-2. Just deflating.

I was in the same boat mate when I started up again a few seasons ago. It is deflating but once your team are trained up it will happen less. And as everyone has said, the stronger team you have the more results can swing your way.  :)
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: captain_kush on July 14, 2022, 07:39:08 AM
http://smokey2.sundayleague.com/cgi-bin/sundayleague/match.pl?fixtureid=11225064

I have no idea how I lost this game last night to a team that doesn't even log in and set up....
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: Gull on July 14, 2022, 08:34:47 AM
Seems 4-3-3 throwing up some strange results lately...
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: Walpster on July 14, 2022, 09:38:20 AM
That result is madness!!

They were even playing passing with 433 formation in snowy/muddy conditions!




http://smokey2.sundayleague.com/cgi-bin/sundayleague/match.pl?fixtureid=11225064

I have no idea how I lost this game last night to a team that doesn't even log in and set up....
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: touchnplay on July 14, 2022, 01:00:51 PM
Completely believable playing against a team full of arsenal players they always get lucky results.

Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: captain_kush on July 14, 2022, 07:34:46 PM
That result is madness!!

They were even playing passing with 433 formation in snowy/muddy conditions!




http://smokey2.sundayleague.com/cgi-bin/sundayleague/match.pl?fixtureid=11225064

I have no idea how I lost this game last night to a team that doesn't even log in and set up....

Complete madness mate I agree but it is what it is, just a shame because in C1 you need every point you can get.

Completely believable playing against a team full of arsenal players they always get lucky results.

Well I'm an Arsenal fan and I can only wish we had some luck towards the end of last season but It never came through haha.
Will defo need some luck in the 2nd half of the season with my Gelato's or I might not even be guaranteed a top 8 finish!
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: touchnplay on July 14, 2022, 10:32:32 PM
That result is madness!!

They were even playing passing with 433 formation in snowy/muddy conditions!




http://smokey2.sundayleague.com/cgi-bin/sundayleague/match.pl?fixtureid=11225064

I have no idea how I lost this game last night to a team that doesn't even log in and set up....

Complete madness mate I agree but it is what it is, just a shame because in C1 you need every point you can get.

Completely believable playing against a team full of arsenal players they always get lucky results.

Well I'm an Arsenal fan and I can only wish we had some luck towards the end of last season but It never came through haha.
Will defo need some luck in the 2nd half of the season with my Gelato's or I might not even be guaranteed a top 8 finish!

Well I'm a Spurs season ticket holder and watched us get a proper dodgy result battering you 3-0...  ;D ;D ;D ;D Couldn't help that Kush you will get top 8  1-1-1's one of those leagues pretty much anyone can beat anyone.

That was a proper dodgy result though. Should have been a comfortable win for you
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: touchnplay on July 15, 2022, 03:48:03 PM
http://smokey2.sundayleague.com/cgi-bin/sundayleague/match.pl?fixtureid=11287270
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: Denmark_14 on July 15, 2022, 05:03:34 PM
http://smokey2.sundayleague.com/cgi-bin/sundayleague/match.pl?fixtureid=11287270

What’s wrong touch, he is by far stronger and you had the same tactical advantage? Or did I miss something…
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: touchnplay on July 15, 2022, 05:12:07 PM
Yeah arsenal fan beating spurs at home  ;D :D ;D
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: captain_kush on July 15, 2022, 07:17:47 PM
Yeah arsenal fan beating spurs at home  ;D :D ;D

Arsenal player scored and was man of the match aswell :D :D :D
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: Denmark_14 on July 16, 2022, 12:20:35 AM
Yeah arsenal fan beating spurs at home  ;D :D ;D

Ohhhhhh, yeah I’m an Arsenal fan so I’m happy to see it 👊
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: harry on July 24, 2022, 02:02:53 PM
http://smokey2.sundayleague.com/cgi-bin/sundayleague/match.pl?fixtureid=11218663

What happened here, where were Aston Villains's players at? Looks like my team played against no one and only scored 28 goals. This is unfair, to be honest. It should be at least 90-0  :D :D

In all seriousness, this must be just an unfortunate bug..

wow that is insane, I have never seen this before.
Deca's players didn't show up but he had 6 shots and 30% possession and also beckham suffered 3 injuries.

I really don't know what to say about this ....



Same thing tonight:
http://smokey2.sundayleague.com/cgi-bin/sundayleague/match.pl?fixtureid=11278878
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: Brian G. on August 24, 2022, 04:02:01 AM

  Check this one out.

  http://smokey2.sundayleague.com/cgi-bin/sundayleague/match.pl?fixtureid=11302573
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: Swifty on August 24, 2022, 04:05:17 AM
That’s mad!

Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: RParker9 on August 24, 2022, 09:15:14 AM
I'm impressed that you scored 7 goals with no players playing. That's amazing.
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: Walpster on August 24, 2022, 09:34:25 AM
I'm impressed that you scored 7 goals with no players playing. That's amazing.

 ;D ;D

That’s mental that!
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: spiteri on August 24, 2022, 03:43:20 PM
Your goalscorers were all borrowed from a computer team in 2-2-2 as well lol
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: captain_kush on August 31, 2022, 04:36:18 PM
http://smokey2.sundayleague.com/cgi-bin/sundayleague/match.pl?fixtureid=11360323

No idea how I won this....
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: Cove on August 31, 2022, 05:17:33 PM
http://smokey2.sundayleague.com/cgi-bin/sundayleague/match.pl?fixtureid=11360323

No idea how I won this....

Surely agression was a big part of that one?
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: Contrast on August 31, 2022, 08:50:49 PM
Aggression and he got an early injury which resulted in a 73 performance.
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: Gull on September 23, 2022, 07:39:47 AM
Disgrace how I didn't win this!

https://smokey2.sundayleague.com/cgi-bin/sundayleague/match.pl?fixtureid=11333427
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: Walpster on September 23, 2022, 11:51:07 AM
Disgrace how I didn't win this!

https://smokey2.sundayleague.com/cgi-bin/sundayleague/match.pl?fixtureid=11333427

Wow  :o
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: captain_kush on September 24, 2022, 04:59:40 PM
Disgrace how I didn't win this!

https://smokey2.sundayleague.com/cgi-bin/sundayleague/match.pl?fixtureid=11333427

2-5-3 is so overpowered.
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: Banger on September 24, 2022, 06:18:42 PM
I wish it was for me, I always seem to lose to 4-5-1 when using it... I actually think I'd lose to 3-4-0 at the moment !
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: Gull on September 24, 2022, 09:32:04 PM
Disgrace how I didn't win this!

https://smokey2.sundayleague.com/cgi-bin/sundayleague/match.pl?fixtureid=11333427

2-5-3 is so overpowered.

Yeah it has an advantage over 4-5-1 in longball conditions.
I should've clearly lost in that game, weird.
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: bald1 on September 25, 2022, 07:33:34 AM
I honestly don't bother too much if i am playing against 2-5-3 any more. Several times i have played 4-3-3 or 5-2-3 longball, even had a crack at 4-2-4 long ball against 2-5-3, and still came up short, as like you, i was attacking a defence, and still went down. 5-2-3 seems to be the flavor of the day lately. I tried it once, and got my arse thoroughly roasted lol, so i went back to my normal  4-5-1.
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: Gull on September 25, 2022, 07:58:12 AM
Yeah 2-5-3 a dominant and 'one size fits all' formation. IMO, using both 4-5-1 (passing / continental) and 5-2-3 (snow / rain) is just as effective, but where this falls down is the constant rotation of players which impact on gelling and morale.

Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: spiteri on September 25, 2022, 09:04:18 AM
2-5-3 is definately the go to noob formation. It will get weaker teams results in their early days that other formations may not. I wouldn't say it's the absolute best with every weather condition, but the longball combination should have been nerfed a little a long time ago. Where 2-5-3 use wings would be more preferable than longball, thus balancing it out with the other formations using wings, and giving a slight advantage to the longball formations.

I never saw the logic in 2-5-3 longball being so successful. Yes there's the 3 strikers to kick onto, but having so many players in the middle leaves the defence well exposed. If the opposition is longballing it themselves and you only have 2 defenders to cover the defence how the heck are they supposed to stay on top when outnumbered in the main pitch areas vs a 4-3-3 longball for example.
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: cha4zz on September 28, 2022, 03:32:52 PM
https://smokey2.sundayleague.com/cgi-bin/sundayleague/match.pl?fixtureid=11362727

Can’t see any players out of position?
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: beckham on October 07, 2022, 03:16:25 PM
https://smokey2.sundayleague.com/cgi-bin/sundayleague/match.pl?fixtureid=11427923

I feel bad for winning this one. Sorry, Mihai!
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: Walpster on October 07, 2022, 09:54:45 PM
https://smokey2.sundayleague.com/cgi-bin/sundayleague/match.pl?fixtureid=11427923

I feel bad for winning this one. Sorry, Mihai!


Oh that’s pretty painful, and you went down to 10 men and grabbed a goal after !  :(
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: mihai on October 08, 2022, 04:51:55 AM
https://smokey2.sundayleague.com/cgi-bin/sundayleague/match.pl?fixtureid=11427923

I feel bad for winning this one. Sorry, Mihai!

It was a random goal mate. It could have gone either way. Good luck !
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: Walpster on October 09, 2022, 08:45:45 AM
Counter attack against there attack from 30 mins

Nutter against there normal as well

Still lost 1-0  :o :o :o

https://smokey2.sundayleague.com/cgi-bin/sundayleague/match.pl?fixtureid=11426934
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: beckham on October 09, 2022, 10:53:12 AM
Unfair mate, but I think 451 has an edge on normal pitch and normal weather condition vs 253 and maybe team strength, I'm around 790 atm?
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: Gull on October 09, 2022, 11:06:15 AM
Certainly getting the luck this season Catalin  ;)
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: Brads on October 09, 2022, 03:14:51 PM
I’ll be honest I think higher aggression while playing counter attack is a disadvantage, the idea of higher aggression is that you have more of the ball which doesn’t allow you to counter the opposition
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: Walpster on October 09, 2022, 09:20:03 PM
I’ll be honest I think higher aggression while playing counter attack is a disadvantage, the idea of higher aggression is that you have more of the ball which doesn’t allow you to counter the opposition

That’s a good way of looking at it
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: RParker9 on October 10, 2022, 03:14:14 PM
You got away with one today in FL1 Walpster!! Ha
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: Walpster on October 12, 2022, 03:37:53 PM
You got away with one today in FL1 Walpster!! Ha

I certainly did, but il take it  ;D ;D

 I’m surprised you didn’t get the win to be fair! Sorry mate
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: RParker9 on October 12, 2022, 05:49:16 PM
Haha. It happens every now and then, obviously just a bit stronger. Maybe next time 😄
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: captain_kush on November 13, 2022, 04:03:08 PM
https://smokey2.sundayleague.com/cgi-bin/sundayleague/match.pl?fixtureid=11432496

:(
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: Banger on December 12, 2022, 10:43:27 PM
There's plenty of moaning about the match engine so I thought I post this here,
But its actually the complete opposite of dodgy results
Here are a couple of my games today to show how the match engine can run exactly as it should

https://smokey2.sundayleague.com/cgi-bin/sundayleague/match.pl?fixtureid=11498856

https://smokey2.sundayleague.com/cgi-bin/sundayleague/match.pl?fixtureid=11431698

Same teams, same score, same time of the goal and almost the same time of injury... And yes, I lost them both  ::)
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: ourminger on January 18, 2023, 03:28:45 PM
Scratching my head on this one. 2 players sent of in the same minute!

https://smokey2.sundayleague.com/cgi-bin/sundayleague/match.pl?fixtureid=11500184
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: Gull on January 18, 2023, 04:53:09 PM
Seems to be a code where this happens in a couple of games a season for no apparent reason. Normally find with Boneshaker this happens too.
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: stupac on January 18, 2023, 06:17:10 PM
Had this recently too. Almost the same time and ended up the same scoreline 🤔

https://smokey2.sundayleague.com/cgi-bin/sundayleague/match.pl?fixtureid=11499600
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: deca on February 04, 2023, 06:21:53 PM
Blimey 75% tactical advantage and lose 2 Nil :-)

https://smokey2.sundayleague.com/cgi-bin/sundayleague/match.pl?fixtureid=11568343
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: RParker9 on February 04, 2023, 08:53:09 PM
Marks team did the same to me the other day Deca. He just must be very strong at the minute
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: munkeespuzz on February 04, 2023, 11:48:40 PM
Blimey 75% tactical advantage and lose 2 Nil :-)

https://smokey2.sundayleague.com/cgi-bin/sundayleague/match.pl?fixtureid=11568343


Does the subs at KO not create these kind of anomalies in the ME?
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: Nijinsky on February 05, 2023, 12:34:12 AM
Blimey 75% tactical advantage and lose 2 Nil :-)

https://smokey2.sundayleague.com/cgi-bin/sundayleague/match.pl?fixtureid=11568343
You had a Mid L out of position with the injury on 47 mins
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: deca on February 06, 2023, 10:08:47 AM
Yes, thank you, that explains it, and the KO Subs too.

I demoted one of my teams this season, but may hang on to my Villains in the top flight for now

Not devoting too much time to merit getting anything out of the game, and finding it a chore rather than enjoyment,

May take a break next season!!!

Cheers

Deca
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: Nijinsky on February 06, 2023, 02:54:38 PM
You can take a break when Villa win a trophy
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: deca on February 06, 2023, 03:59:59 PM
That could be years away :-)
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: ourminger on March 16, 2023, 03:42:36 PM
Tactical advantage for 60 min w/ aggression normal vs pansy

https://smokey2.sundayleague.com/cgi-bin/sundayleague/match.pl?fixtureid=11635537
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: Brian G. on March 19, 2023, 03:22:08 PM
https://smokey2.sundayleague.com/cgi-bin/sundayleague/match.pl?fixtureid=11636432
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: RParker9 on March 19, 2023, 03:37:52 PM
How did the team with no players manage to score? Haha
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: Brian G. on March 19, 2023, 04:03:32 PM
How did the team with no players manage to score? Haha

  voodoo
     :) 8) :)
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: stupac on May 13, 2023, 10:50:35 PM
https://smokey2.sundayleague.com/cgi-bin/sundayleague/match.pl?fixtureid=11703328

Midfield was crippled by injury/suspension today, so I took a chance with 325.
According to the formation image on the Manage Team page, all players were in the correct position.
Is 325 just that bad? Or is the formation graphic incorrect and I got penalised for having my strikers out of position? 🤔
Title: Re: Dodgy Results
Post by: Marv999 on May 14, 2023, 03:42:16 PM
https://smokey2.sundayleague.com/cgi-bin/sundayleague/match.pl?fixtureid=11703328

Midfield was crippled by injury/suspension today, so I took a chance with 325.
According to the formation image on the Manage Team page, all players were in the correct position.
Is 325 just that bad? Or is the formation graphic incorrect and I got penalised for having my strikers out of position? 🤔
sadly not a dodgy result. You played your strikers all out of position. Not sure what graphic your referring too but if you go in the forum thread player positioning and tips you should have played the front 5 as strR, strR, strC, strL, strL. So effectively you played 3 players out of position. I'd imagine it's not as an effective anyway but it probably didn't help.

I think I had a problem with that team information graphic when trying to use a weird formation (145 I think) I'd always go in the forum and stick to what it suggests there. Apart from 1-4-5 I think it was that is incorrect.