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Offline jman

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« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2019, 09:24:34 PM »
Yeah....
I have zero interest in any kind of vr gaming though.

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« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2019, 05:00:47 PM »
Yeah....
I have zero interest in any kind of vr gaming though.

Yup, but it's one of these things that you don't understand the amazeballs of unless you actually try it though. And even then it may be a little too early for you to be truly blown away by it because of the binocular/swimming goggles effect that the current headsets have due to a small FOV. Once you're immersed in a game though you completely forget about it, same goes for the low resolution too.

Once Microsoft jump onto the VR train though, as long as they don't fuck it up given what they've fucked up in the past (both Kinect and HoloLens) in terms of hardware, you'll end up not playing flat games again. It really is that much of a game changer, especially with cockpit games and horror games.

People that haven't tried VR try to compare it to 3DTV and 3D films at the cinema but they haven't got a clue. Here's the difference:



You WILL be interested in VR gaming at some point because you won't have a choice, it's the direction that the gaming industry and the entertainment industry is going in. In 10-15 years VR headsets will be as common in homes as DVD/Blu-Ray players and once you get your first one you'll say, 'NOW I know what Harv was going on about years ago!' ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2019, 12:54:49 PM »
But I have tried it.. Samsung Gear.. I hated it and made me nauseous after about 2 minutes. 

You've been saying VR will go mainstream for the past 3 years in a row now... I also remember you saying that the Wiimote was the most accurate controller in the world at some point... yep... just saying ;)

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« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2019, 09:16:19 PM »
He doesn't need vr, Harv.

He's married - so seeing but not touching a naked lady is already covered... ;)
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Offline harv

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« Reply #19 on: January 23, 2019, 09:21:43 PM »
It won't go mainstream for YEARS. That's why I said 10-15 years before everyone has one in their home. I've never said that it would go mainstream in such a short amount of time.

There are going to be 3 stages to mainstream adoption:

1) Enthusiast gamer adoption. People like me who buy high end PC components to build a new machine every 3-5 years. This demographic is quite happy to pay a premium price to become an early adopter. This is the stage we're at now.

2) Mainstream gamer adoption. The type of gamers such as your good self who build or buy a mid-range PC for gaming and play mainstream PC and console games such as GTA, Assassin's Creed, CoD etc. Most of these people won't want to pay a premium price to play in VR, the sweet spot is around 200-300 quid/dollars for them to buy in.

3) Mainstream consumer adoption. Your average household that doesn't necessarily own a PC powerful enough to run VR. The sweet spot price for this demographic is under £100. This demographic is the hardest to crack because the technology currently isn't there to have a powerful and decent standalone headset at a decent price. The Oculus Quest is an ideal type of headset for this group but at £399 It's way too expensive.

As for GearVR that's at the low end of the spectrum in terms of quality. It's a 3DOF headset so it doesn't have positional tracking, could be why you were having issues with simulation sickness.

Like I've said, you'll understand exactly what I'm talking about when stage 2 of VR mainstream adoption happens. It's already started to a certain extent with PSVR, and will continue when Microsoft eventually jump in and have it on their console too. It's not going to be high-end, PSVR is mid-range VR due to the tracking, and I'm fully expecting Microsoft to cock things up as far as the hardware is concerned just like they did with Kinect and HoloLens lol :o ;D

As for motion controls, they're a key part of VR and once VR is adopted by mainstream gamers such as your good self you'll see very few gamepad only and non-VR games being released in about 5-10 years time.
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« Reply #20 on: January 23, 2019, 09:23:44 PM »
He doesn't need vr, Harv.

He's married - so seeing but not touching a naked lady is already covered... ;)

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

VR Porn is awesome, but not very realistic cos the young ladies in question don't slap me across the face and threaten to call the police  :( ;D
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« Reply #21 on: January 23, 2019, 10:01:55 PM »
He doesn't need vr, Harv.

He's married - so seeing but not touching a naked lady is already covered... ;)

Yeah but she'd be fuming if she found out who I've been touching lol

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« Reply #22 on: January 23, 2019, 10:34:46 PM »
He doesn't need vr, Harv.

He's married - so seeing but not touching a naked lady is already covered... ;)

Yeah but she'd be fuming if she found out who I've been touching lol

 :o ;D ;D ;D
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