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« Reply #780 on: February 02, 2023, 08:54:17 PM »
Looks like Greenwood's Court case has been dropped. Doesn't matter to me, I don't want to see him wearing a United shirt again. Get. Rid.
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« Reply #781 on: February 02, 2023, 09:23:40 PM »
Looks like Greenwood's Court case has been dropped. Doesn't matter to me, I don't want to see him wearing a United shirt again. Get. Rid.

Are you saying this on football ability or media reports? Would you say the same if it was perhaps Marcus Rashford? Do you know exactly what happened or just biased by what you read in the Sun newspaper or online? Nobody knows the true facts of what happened here. And just would like to say, there are other teams called United outside of Manchester.....your club haven't yet bought that moniker despite thinking you are better than all other teams called United.

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« Reply #782 on: February 06, 2023, 12:29:12 AM »
I'd say exactly the same thing.

The only thing that could possibly change my mind is if it was revealed that the rest of the recording made clear that they were playing some kind of consensual sex game or something.

Some people may say that he deserves a second chance but for me he's already had it. Remember the nitrous oxide shenanigans a couple of years ago?

Looks like the other players have made the decision for United anyway by the looks of things.

Such a shame that he's proven to be another Morrison. What a waste of talent.
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« Reply #783 on: February 06, 2023, 02:01:02 AM »
I had to double check this when I saw it on Facebook just now:

Rashford in 2023 has scored the same amount of goals ( 8 ) as Chelsea and Liverpool combined. 😲😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😲😲😂😂😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😂😲😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😲😲😲😲😂😲😂😲
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« Reply #784 on: February 06, 2023, 03:49:25 PM »
City are deep in the 💩 right now lol 😲😂

Over a hundred breaches of FFP Regulations spanning 14 seasons 😲😂😂😂

If City get deducted 15 points today, just like Juventus did, they would STILL be above Chelsea and the red scouse gits in 9th place lol 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

You have to wonder what their punishment is going to be like. Over 100 breaches? Spanning 14 seasons?

For something that bad the punishment has to be pretty harsh.

Maybe a 15 point ban for every season lol 😂

The good news for United fans in that case is that Ollie will have won a title and United would get 3 in total. The bad news for United fans is that Slippy G will get a Premier League winners medal and the red scouse gits would get another 3 in total lol 😂😂😂

Probably just a 15 point ban like Juventus though I would have thought. The FA are pretty toothless and don't have brass ones big enough to make the punishment fit the crime.
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« Reply #785 on: February 06, 2023, 10:19:13 PM »
If there had been FFP rules enforced during the 1990's, Manchester United would still be the average team they were in the 1980's. Chelsea would never had won a Premier League. Blackburn Rovers would not have had their day. Manchester City would be in the National League, and Arsene Wenger would probably have a knighthood and 6 Champions League trophies.

Easy to call out other clubs for spending unfairly when your own club outspent everyone else in the past with no rules or scrutiny.

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« Reply #786 on: February 06, 2023, 11:45:53 PM »
It was perfectly legal back then. The difference is that the Berties have (allegedly) committed fraud to gain an advantage over everyone else.

United have ALWAYS had plenty of money to spend because we're one of the biggest and most popular clubs in world football, even in the 70s and 80s when we were shite. We haven't spent beyond our means and we haven't (allegedly) made up shell companies that have 'sponsored' us, with the only address being a dodgy PO Box somewhere (allegedly) lol 😂😂😂

We're probably going to get rich owners buying us pretty soon, but they won't NEED to commit fraud to get a transfer kitty because we have such a huge fan base around the world happy to buy United merchandise and match tickets.

The Berties can't even fill their stadium every week lol 😲😂😂😂😲

Just wait until the Glazers have gone, you're going to see fans (including my good self) buying United merchandise again after boycotting it for so long because we didnt want to give the parasites any money. Don't be surprised to see United being the top earners in revenue when the accounts are done next year. 😉

And once the Glazers have gone you'll see sponsors rushing to give the new owners money now that they're going to be history, no fan protests, a top quality manager for the first time since Fergie retired and what's almost certain to be trophies on the way unless the new owners are insane and sack ten Hag for some bizarre reason.

ten Hag said it recently, all eras end. And by the looks of things City have a chance of being relegated to non league football just like Rangers did, the red scouse gits are struggling to score, as are Chelsea, and United are looking like they're about to be back to their best during the next few years. 😎😁😎

Mind you, the next three matches are going to be a struggle without Casemiro 🤔☹️
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« Reply #787 on: February 07, 2023, 09:06:55 PM »
It was perfectly legal back then. The difference is that the Berties have (allegedly) committed fraud to gain an advantage over everyone else.

United have ALWAYS had plenty of money to spend because we're one of the biggest and most popular clubs in world football, even in the 70s and 80s when we were shite. We haven't spent beyond our means and we haven't (allegedly) made up shell companies that have 'sponsored' us, with the only address being a dodgy PO Box somewhere (allegedly) lol 😂😂😂

We're probably going to get rich owners buying us pretty soon, but they won't NEED to commit fraud to get a transfer kitty because we have such a huge fan base around the world happy to buy United merchandise and match tickets.

The Berties can't even fill their stadium every week lol 😲😂😂😂😲

Just wait until the Glazers have gone, you're going to see fans (including my good self) buying United merchandise again after boycotting it for so long because we didnt want to give the parasites any money. Don't be surprised to see United being the top earners in revenue when the accounts are done next year. 😉

And once the Glazers have gone you'll see sponsors rushing to give the new owners money now that they're going to be history, no fan protests, a top quality manager for the first time since Fergie retired and what's almost certain to be trophies on the way unless the new owners are insane and sack ten Hag for some bizarre reason.

ten Hag said it recently, all eras end. And by the looks of things City have a chance of being relegated to non league football just like Rangers did, the red scouse gits are struggling to score, as are Chelsea, and United are looking like they're about to be back to their best during the next few years. 😎😁😎

Mind you, the next three matches are going to be a struggle without Casemiro 🤔☹️

What a complete load of bollocks. Manchester United were not a big club in world football until Sky Sports threw money at football in this country. They were the original dirty spenders in English football by tapping up rival teams players. The only difference between Manchester United and Manchester City is that the FL and FA turned a blind eye to what was going on back then. Manchester City are under a lot more scrutiny these days. It doesn't make their achievements any less than your beloved club who did exactly the same before FFP became a thing.

As for the Glazers involvement at Old Trafford. They consistently fund huge transfers and wages. Other clubs would bite their hands off for that kind of investment. These people are billionaires for a reason, why would they care about supporters opinion when they keep the club stable financially? They have hardly run the club into the ground, just protected their initial investment. Fans of other clubs look at your fans as glory hunters who only whinge about the owners when they don't buy them success like they could in the past when the competition wasn't there.Lets not forget it's the Glazers who employ Ten Hagg....Any thanks to them for your reversal in fortunes of late? I really hope the Glazers give your fans what they want and it goes pear shaped with an owner who is more frugal with the finances. That would be Karma
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« Reply #788 on: February 08, 2023, 08:35:38 PM »
United have been one of the biggest clubs in world football since the 50s. This didn't start in the 90s. We've had fans all over the world since Busby introduced his Babes to Europe. Then we had Best, Charlton and Law in the 60s and early 70s. Big name players. High profile club. Even in the mid to late 70s and the 80s when we were shite (and relegated) we had more fans than everyone else lol. United having hundreds of millions of fans worldwide DID NOT start with Fergie, but it did help of course.

Have you seen the state Old Trafford..? The bloomin roof has been leaking these last couple of years.

The Glazers have made some ATROCIOUS appointments in terms of upper management and managers. The team in charge of transfers can only concentrate on ONE signing at a time lol.

The Glazers have taken 1.5 billion quid out of the club since they've owned it. It's their personal piggy bank and has been since they bought it.

And protected their initial investment? They didn't invest that much, just enough to buy the minimum amount of shares and exploited a loophole in the law (which has now closed thankfully, stopping other clubs from getting in this mess!) which allowed them to use the club's assets to get a loan to buy the club. AND THAT DEBT IS STILL THERE!!!

The ten Hag appointment is the ONLY decent decision they've made. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

All us United fans want is an owner that knows his football and supports United. Radcliffe does, the Qatari bunch do too.

Whoever buys United will either extend the South stand over the railway line or build a new stadium. The Qatari bunch have said that they're going to involve the fans in the decision (my option would be the former NEVER the latter). Human rights issues aside they're making all the right noises atm.

Once that stadium is either extended or a new one built United will end up being able to spend £500m every year without needing to sell any players and stay within FFP Regulations thanks to a 90,000+ seater stadium and fans ending their Glazer boycott around the world and buying United gear again. And with no fan protests we'll see big sponsors coming back too, more revenue for United for transfers.

And everyone will moan about rich owners without the new owners spending a penny of their own money on transfers lol :P

United are on their way back (despite getting beaten by Leeds atm lol). Hated. Adored. Never ignored. ;D
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« Reply #789 on: March 05, 2023, 07:03:29 PM »
Well that was embarrassing 😳 😭😭😭

7 bloody 0. Against the red scouse gits. That's our Quadruple out of the window lol ☹️😂😂😂
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« Reply #790 on: March 05, 2023, 07:04:09 PM »
Liverpool 7 - 0  Biggest Club in World Football  ;D ;D ;D


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« Reply #791 on: March 06, 2023, 02:47:14 AM »
Still up for a Treble, even though it'll be a Mickey Mouse one  :P ;)
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« Reply #792 on: April 30, 2023, 03:17:11 AM »
Oh well, we'll have to make do with the Domestic Cup Double instead. One of the very few things we haven't won 😝😎😝

News on the United buyout isn't good. There are rumours that Ratcliffe has agreed to buy 49% of the Glazer shares and will be giving Abram and Joel Glazer 20% shares between them.

This, if it's true, is going to be a disaster for United. The only option for United is Jassim/Qatar buying the club.

Ratcliffe doesn't have enough money to buy the club in the first place, he's having to borrow money to do it. And if he doesn't have the money to buy the club he certainly doesn't have the money to pay off the £1bn of debt that the Glazers have lumbered the club with, nor the money to repair Old Trafford, expand it/build a new stadium nor do the work needing to be done at Carrington.

I was worried about Ratcliffe doing this when his PR team mentioned 'incentives'.

The club has to pay off the 'United credit card' debt of £200m+ before the end of June.

The Glazers and Ratcliffe combined could see United going into Administration ffs. 😲☹️😲😭
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« Reply #793 on: May 19, 2023, 10:44:33 PM »

The club has to pay off the 'United credit card' debt of £200m+ before the end of June.

The Glazers and Ratcliffe combined could see United going into Administration ffs. 😲☹️😲😭

So, it seems all Manchester United fans want the Quatari bid in favour of the Glazers trying to find a bidder that will help them balance the books so they can keep financing the transfers the fans have been used to under their ownership?
What exactly do you fans want? All you ever do is blame the owners for your lack of success. Then you say your neighbours success means nothing because of their oil rich owners. I actually hope the Glazers sell your club to poundland for a quid because us fans of other clubs who struggle week to week are sick of hearing you ungrateful lot whinging and mithering about how hard done by your club is. Be grateful for what you have. It could be alot worse under new ownership.

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« Reply #794 on: May 20, 2023, 08:33:05 PM »
We want the Glazers 100% out of the club. The only bidder that's going to do that is Jassim.

Sure, United HAVE spent a lot of money, but because we have clowns in charge of transfer and contract negotiations, United have overspent.

They paid MORE than Fellaini's release clause years ago. They could have signed Antony for £50m less, and had him ready for preseason training and fixtures if they were any good at their jobs. They also overspent on Maguire, Sanchez, Pogba...the list goes on and on.

The first thing that a new owner will do is clear the board (and that's going to cost £500m+ at least), clear the likes of Murtough and Judge out of handling transfer and contract negotiations, get us record breaking shirt sponsorship deal, pay off the billion quids worth of debts, and either build a new stadium or extend and repair the shambles that is Old Trafford and do the work that needs doing to Carrington.

£6bn to buy the club, and around £4bn to £5bn to fix everything that the Glazers have broken due to their neglect and mismanagement.

The majority of the fans (including me) wanted ten Hag, the media wanted Poch.

And I'll tell you why we got ten Hag. NOTHING to do with football knowledge that he has, it was entirely down to his wage demands being lower than that of Poch and Conte. 😲😂

The news media, especially the Athletic, have a clear agenda against Jassim and for the Rat 🐀. Hopefully us fans will get what we want again.

With the right business nouse, United would have been self sufficient when it comes to spending. And they will be again. Releasing a Green and Gold second kit will be a licence to print money, people that have been boycotting the club will start spending again, and not having those debts to service will give United an extra £100m to spend every year, and extending the stadium or building a new one will almost certainly raise an extra £200m every year through increased match day revenue.

And now that we're FINALLY addressing our wage bill issue, don't be surprised to see United spending £400m+ every year without falling foul of the FFP Regulations and without fiddling anything the way that the Berties (allegedly) did over 12 years or so.

Once this sale to Jassim is done (if they were going to accept the Rat 🐀 deal, they would have done so weeks ago) United will be on their back to the top.

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